Trade Deadline Open Thread
by Jeff Clark on Feb 24, 2011 10:12 AM EST
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Update: Twitter / @gary washburn:
According to an NBA source, Celtics are close to trading Nate Robinson. More details to come #celtics
Update: Twitter / @Chris Forsberg:
In Denver, C's are focused on business at hand. Back home, one Celtics source suggested a last-minute deal seemed unlikely.
Update: Twitter / @Jason Lloyd:
With roughly 30 mins left, #Cavs and Bos still far apart on Anthony Parker. Anything can change at last minute, but Cavs look to be done
Update: Twitter / @A. Sherrod Blakely:
#Celtics have identified #Cavs Anthony Parker as top target. Have a handful of others who are all fall-back options at this point.
Update: Twitter / @Sam Amico
Lots of chatter that Cavs guard Anthony Parker could be on way to Celtics. Not sure just yet how authentic it is.
Update: Chris Mannix (ChrisMannixSI)
Going to be a fight for Jason Kapono if he is bought out, sources say. If Boston doesn't make a deal, expect them to be in the middle of it.
Update: Twitter / @Jason Lloyd:
One offer on table: [Anthony Parker] to Celts for Marquis Daniels. #Cavs would buy him out, send him back to Bos. But Cavs want Bos #1 next yr for helping
Update: Twitter / @Ken Berger: C's shopping Daniels
Not having much luck dangling Nate Robinson and pick for wing upgrade, Celtics now trying to use Marquis Daniels' contract, sources say.
Daniels, out with a neck injury, could be bought out by Cavs with cash from Celtcs in a deal for Anthony Parker, sources say.
Update: Daniels may need season ending surgery - via CSN's Blakely
"There is a chance that he will miss the season and may need surgery to resume his playing career," Danny Ainge, Boston's president of basketball operations, told CSNNE.com Wednesday night. "We're still gathering information, but that's where we're at."
Update: via Wojnarowski twitter
Boston, Chicago and several more would love to pry Jared Dudley out of Phoenix, sources say. Suns can't dump Childress deal, need money off. Dudley is a popular player in Phoenix, beloved by organization. Several GM's are dubious Suns would part with him. Need an excellent offer. Celtics have dangled Nate Robinson and 1st round pick, which isn't the most appealing package on market to get a talented perimeter player. To be clear on Celts, I'm told they haven't checked on Dudley very recently. No sense Suns will move him, but he has great value to teams.
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It is starting to sound more and more like the Celtics are content to wait this one out. They are obviously working hard to find a deal that makes sense but are unwilling to pay too much to get something done when they know that they'll have buy-out options in just a few days. Here's the latest.
Celtics not moved to react - BostonHerald.com
The club is still seeking help on the wing, and as the cell phone traffic eased last night, it was looking more and more likely that the C’s will get their man after today’s NBA trade deadline when players who don’t get dealt are bought out. Sources say its quite possible an acquisition will come from a group that includes Jason Kapono, Sasha Pavlovic, Rasual Butler and Morris Peterson. But if those players are indeed in line for a buyout, it’s also true their current teams will be looking to include them in deals before it gets to that.
In other news around the league...
- The LA Clippers traded Baron Davis and a 1st round pick to the Cavs for Mo Williams and Jamario Moon.
- The Wizards sent Kirk Hinrich and Hilton Armstrong to the Hawks for Mike Bibby, Mo Evans, Jordon Crawford and a pick.
- You may have heard that Melo went to New York and Deron Williams went to the Nets.
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Pretty happy thus far
Keep trying Danny, but dont make a panic move.
Maybe just waiting for a Butler buyout….
by Warrior Spirit on Feb 24, 2011 8:36 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
CRAZYTOWN - every team we're playing next on his road trip is heavily effected by trades
NUGGETS lose Melo
CLIPPERS lose Davis
JAZZ lose Williams
Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk
+1
We have Semih, a good reason not to trade him btw.
by Warrior Spirit on Feb 24, 2011 9:37 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
battier is close to getting memphis
ppl must assume he’l ask for a buyout
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Absolutely Terrible News
Baron Davis to Cleveland could be absolutely terrible for the Celtics. Baron is from LA, he signed there a few years ago to go home. He was traded out of New Orleans because he kept feuding with Byron Scott, the current coach of Cleveland. I’m betting Baron doesn’t report to Cleveland. They’ll reach a buy-out, Baron doesn’t need the cash, and he’d rather not waste the rest of this year and next in Ohio.
Gee, is there a team in LA that needs a point guard??? I’m praying he doesn’t make it to the Lakers.
Kobe doesn't like pure point guards
They handle the ball much for his liking. Thats why Nick Van Excel hit the road and Fisher is his best friend
by OsirusCeltics on Feb 24, 2011 8:12 AM EST up reply actions
The Beard is not much of a pure point.
by Warrior Spirit on Feb 24, 2011 8:26 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Lol true
But he handles the ball alot
He’ll handle the ball 2 seconds too long and Kobe would say “Woah, woah, woah Baron hold your horses”
by OsirusCeltics on Feb 24, 2011 8:40 AM EST up reply actions
he is not getting bought out
he is owed 29 million over teh next two seasons
by Dr.Greenthumb on Feb 24, 2011 10:12 AM EST up reply actions
That would be good news all around.
I’m sorry for the Cleveland fans, but it wouldn’t bother me much if Baron Davis is stuck there for awhile.
He and Byron Scott couldnt handle each other for a whole season the 1st time.
If I am Byron, I say give me 15 and I walk, I am not Byron however.
Do the cavs really want this guy? Or do they want a pick that badly to take on his salary? Does he really want to run the worst team in the league, again? For a coach he does not like, again?
He could get bought out, not definite, but possible.
by Warrior Spirit on Feb 24, 2011 12:14 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Way to look into the future.
I like Davis, past his short prime though. Hopefully he wont join the evil empire, but I dont know just how much better it makes them.
by Warrior Spirit on Feb 24, 2011 8:28 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
There happens to be another team that needs a pg, I dont want him there either.
by Warrior Spirit on Feb 24, 2011 9:03 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
wow... it must have been a sigh of relief for mo williams
getting out of cleveland… and i feel sorry for baron davis whose game was somewhat resurrected with blake and now to the worst team in the league… yikes!
as being predicted...
looks like the option now is to wait til the deadline then well… look around who’s still available for buyout. It’s clear that we won’t spend too much for a sub and not trade any of our key guys… so yeah, let’s just wait and see ;)
Teams want Erden.
Who is right now the starting Center. Forget the future, he’s not even an option to trade for the present.
That seems to be why nothing is getting done.
"Phil is obviously a good coach. You don't win that many games without being a damn good coach, ... Remember one thing: He's been very fortunate. He picks his spots. That's all I can say." - Red Auerbach
waive
if we dont make a trade for a roster spot we would have to free roster space through waiver or stay put
FORUMS
Any idea when they will be working correctly. I couldn’t get there last night or this morning at my house and now can’t get there at work.
Semih Erden
just tweeted he’s going to Houston. my heart says Battier, but my head says Courtney Lee
Blakely says it isn't true...
http://twitter.com/SherrodbCSN
just spoke with semih’s agent. There’s nothing going on with semih to houston. Social media, at its best.
All the negativity in this town sucks. It sucks, and it stinks, and it sucks. - Rick Pitino
im more inclined to believe semih
assuming that twitter is legit, and it appears to be.
Glad to hear ..
Unless its a no brainer must do type deal (which I doubt) it would be silly to move Erden as the C’s need him short term this year to add depth to the frontline with all the questions surrounding the bigs and long term when the current aging bigs KG, Shaq and J.O. retire.
Dead link, page does not exist
by Warrior Spirit on Feb 24, 2011 8:31 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Yeah there’s been a lot of controversy over whether or not it’s Semih’s real twitter. Some media outlets have reported it’s a fake account, but one user on here (gomesfan) has said that it’s Semih’s real account and he even won Celtics tickets from the account earlier this year. I don’t think Gomesfan would make that up, so it very well may be a true twitter.
Nate, Daniels, and Semih for Battier works financially.
and a little difficult to believe considering....
every other center on the team can’t walk right now.
It may be a real twitter, but it could have been hacked...
All the negativity in this town sucks. It sucks, and it stinks, and it sucks. - Rick Pitino
The Twitter account, or the CB account?
If CelticsBlog accounts are being hacked, that would explain some of Master Po’s recent posts.
"People don't understand, if you can't live the rest of your life off one year in the NBA, you can't live off 21." -- Keon Clark
Hope not, not even for Battier
by Warrior Spirit on Feb 24, 2011 8:32 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Hypothetically, if this rumor has any truth to it
I do this trade in a heartbeat for the Celtics. Semih may very well turn out to be a good big man down the road, but he most likely won’t see the court in the playoffs and if Danny thinks we can get Murphy, it’s a no brainer. We roll out a bench of Delonte, Von, Battier, Baby, Shaq, Murphy/JO. Adding Battier would be ideal to guard Lebron/Kobe, he really would be the perfect addition to this team.
From Houston’s perspective, they’re most likely not resigning Battier, so he’s definitely available. Depending on how highly they regard Semih, it could be a very nice deal for them. They’ve been very public about looking for a young center. If we offer Nate, Keys, Semih, and a pick, I think Houston has to seriously consider it. The potential of Semih and the pick can easily offset the negative of picking up Nate. Worst case scenario they dump him this summer or next deadline as an expiring.
I mostly agree
However, I do think that Battier resigns in Houston if they offer him a reasonable contract, so I’m not convinced they’re in a rush to trade him.
But yes, if this trade existed, I would do it in a heartbeat too. I like Semih quite a bit, but I’d take Battier and Murphy over Semih and Nate in a second, since the goal is appropriately win-now. As a bonus, this trade leaves an open roster spot for someone like Rip if he gets bought out, making our second string D. West, Rip, Battier at the 1-2-3.
Of course the other problem is that Daniels has veto rights against being traded, and I don’t know if the money works without him.
by egotistical ma on Feb 24, 2011 8:57 AM EST up reply actions
Young dont trade a young true 7 footer with good hands and lots of upside both offensively and defensively for a rental of another old guy.
And what guarantee would Danny have that Murphy comes here? Not to mention he cant sign here immediately and that leaves Baby as our starting center. If Nate, Gody and a 1st round pick cant get it done they are asking too much, maybe with cash to pay much of Nate’s second year (as an expiring contract, tradeable asset) or a 2nd rounder as well, but that is it.
We dont need another former allstar folks just a reliable role player for 15 minutes or so and if you can get that from Butler via buyout and keep Bradley and Semih for the future, you do it.
Think of it like this, Danny has been most willing to trade off or dump rookies or 2nd year men, even ones with potential, he doesnt even hesitate. If several teams have inquired about both Bradley and Semih, for Viable pieces to Win Now, and he is NOT WILLING to part with them, what does that tell you?
They are part of the future here, and for reasonable money.
If he moves one of them, so be it, but I wouls rather see him give a statement to the rest of the league that WE are the ones who will not panic into a trade, the team with half an active roster is good enough to wait it out. And get a minor piece via free agency/buy out.
by Warrior Spirit on Feb 24, 2011 9:19 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Here is a wild thought....
What if JO’ s surgery is a success and he is able to get on the court mid-April? We are not going t o cut him because he has another year on his contract and no one will accept him in a trade. So, let’s hope he does recover because it will be like acquiring another big right before the playoffs. If Shaqw is right, then we have our 21 feet of center plus Semih if we need to activate him in any playoff round.
I hope for the best myself. But he is having shard cleaned out, there are not putting cartiledge back into his knee. I expect him to play through pain when it matters and retire after the season, dude cant even walk up the stairs at his own house.
by Warrior Spirit on Feb 24, 2011 9:44 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Can somebody
fill me in on C. Lee?? (and I don’t mean Clifford)…LOL!
What happened to Frank083?
by Great Gatsby on Feb 24, 2011 12:31 PM EST up reply actions
It was taken down...
It was originally posted about 8 hours ago. Then, it was taken down, and now it’s back up again, apparently (posted 11 minutes ago).
All the negativity in this town sucks. It sucks, and it stinks, and it sucks. - Rick Pitino
That 11 minutes doesn’t change. It’s said that all morning. Maybe that’s all the more evidence that something is wrong with the account though and it has been hacked.
that's my thought
It said 11 minutes when I checked it at last night, about 40 minutes after the news first broke.
by egotistical ma on Feb 24, 2011 8:37 AM EST up reply actions
Really the only thing to do
Is buyout or waive. Then get Rasual Butler after the deadline
And its comical that the media is treating the return of Joakim Noah is the second coming or something. Like “watch out when Bulls get back Noah, they don’t even have a full roster yet”
Firstly, Noah is a converted 5, who is really a 4. He has no bulk at all to go against true centers. May not be that highlighted but Shaq abused him in last years playoffs when he was on the Cavs. Bulls have no size. Plus Derrick “Im a small forward trapped in a point guards body” Rose is not going to lead them anywhere
I think it was a lesser of two evils move by the media. Since they have seen the Heat aren’t as elite as they thought, they instead switched their hype on the Bulls
I think you’re grossly underrating both Noah and Rose. If you watched any NBA this year, Rose was the first half MVP.
I think you are grossly overrating Noah and Rose
Rondo owns Rose and KG owns Noah.
Celtic Chat Handle: Bird
by David Henderson on Feb 24, 2011 9:16 AM EST up reply actions
The Rondo/Rose thing goes back and forth
With each owning the other on occaision. In rondos defense, it is when he does not seem to care or bring his effort that Rose beats him.
by Warrior Spirit on Feb 24, 2011 9:48 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Let me rephrase
When Rondo is on he owns Rose. He drives right by him on offense and steals the ball from him on defense. And he makes it look pretty easy…
Trust me Rose want no part of Rondo in the playoffs.
Celtic Chat Handle: Bird
by David Henderson on Feb 24, 2011 10:31 AM EST up reply actions
Bulls lost last night and play Heat tonight.
Either the Bulls lose number 18 and drop 4 back in the loss column, or the Heat lose number 16 and go two back. So, C’s win tonight and they get a little more distance from the 2 and 3 seeds.
How about going after one of the Wizards' small forwards????
Maybe Maurice Evans, Josh Howard, or Al Thornton.
TNT should've treated Lebron's return to Cleveland game like 2k11 and cut the game off after the Cavs were down by 30. lol
I would really like Al Thornton
He is underrated young player. Great upside. Nate Robinson for Thornton would be great. Get er done Danny!
by OsirusCeltics on Feb 24, 2011 9:20 AM EST up reply actions
I don't like Thornton much...
He’s 27 year old, and has been steadily regressing since his rookie year. Plus, he doesn’t play defense.
I suppose he’d be okay as a backup 3, but I don’t have high hopes for him.
All the negativity in this town sucks. It sucks, and it stinks, and it sucks. - Rick Pitino
The Wizards are looking for young players.
Maybe Daniels+Erden/Bradley+cash for Howard/Thornton/Evans.
TNT should've treated Lebron's return to Cleveland game like 2k11 and cut the game off after the Cavs were down by 30. lol
I'm glad the Houston story is false.
Bad deal for us, but they’d probably take it, since they stand to get nothing for Battier at the end of the year.
Semih twitter 11 minutes ago said if I pass phsical I’m going to houston. So is it Battier for Nate and Semih?
by Blackberry33 on Feb 24, 2011 8:51 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Read the rest of this thread, or many other threads in the past 9 hours, and learn that it's not.
Even the post immediately above yours.
by egotistical ma on Feb 24, 2011 8:58 AM EST up reply actions
It would be a realy good trade for us, but...
let’s hope that danny is gonna think something out
by CroPetro3 (only CP3) on Feb 24, 2011 9:01 AM EST up reply actions
Rumors are Battier is most likely headed to Memphis in a deal for Thabeet, the holdup is Memphis won’t add in a pick though. I’m still holding out hope that Danny can get Battier some how though. Maybe Houston would prefer Semih and a pick, rather than Thabeet.
doubtful
but i’d throw in a 1st if MEM would send us Sam Young.
doubt memphis would do it considering Young's strong play, but...
if the Cs throw in cash to MEM, it could be possible.
for example, this deal:
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=49jduts
The Cs send their 1st to Houston (as reportedly needed) and, say, $1.5mil in cash to Memphis. Is everyone happy in this deal? it’s not far off, though I can’t speak for whether Memphis actually values Thabeet. Judging from Houston’s request for a pick with him, they likely don’t.
Young isn't going anywhere.
The way he’s playing, and only making 800k, not a chance.
But it would be nice, I’ll give ya that. Good thought, albeit a bit of a pipe dream.
"Phil is obviously a good coach. You don't win that many games without being a damn good coach, ... Remember one thing: He's been very fortunate. He picks his spots. That's all I can say." - Red Auerbach
probably true
but the only player on either team who makes much sense, and he plays battier’s position.
You can't trade Semih.
He’s our only healthy true center right now.
"Phil is obviously a good coach. You don't win that many games without being a damn good coach, ... Remember one thing: He's been very fortunate. He picks his spots. That's all I can say." - Red Auerbach
And even he isn't "truly healthy"...
… with his ongoing shoulder issues. But, he can play, unlike a lot of our other bigs.
All the negativity in this town sucks. It sucks, and it stinks, and it sucks. - Rick Pitino
I was on his twitter account during the allstar break and everything looks the same but who knows. Remember when someone hacked into bbd account, it happens.
by Blackberry33 on Feb 24, 2011 9:11 AM EST via mobile reply actions
The Celtics really have nothing that interests other teams
Disappointed that there probably won’t be a trade, but other than Bradley and Semih, who they can’t trade since he is the only center right now, the C’s have zero to give anyone. Why would anyone want Nate? The guy is the worst player on the team. Why would anyone want JO? He has another year on his contract and who knows if he will ever play again? I guess someone might want Quisy to immediately buy him out. Danny will sign someone after the trade deadline and we have to hope that the guy can actually help.
As for the big man situation, all is can say is, “HELP”
Wojo is tweeting about a possible deal with the Griz and Rockets
Battier for Thabeet and a pick, if it goes down, does Battier want to stay a Grizz? If he wants a buyout and becomes a FA, we should come knocking
How much is Thabeet making?
For how long? Why would they trade thabeet and a pick for Battier unless it saves them money or they want Battier?
Yes we absolutely make an offer if he goes and gets bought out, but is it likely? Do they need 2 defensive stoppers in TA and Shane?
by Warrior Spirit on Feb 24, 2011 10:10 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I'm thinking Houston...
is trying to get the best young “Big” available using Battier as the hook, doesn’t seem like Houston will resign him after this year so they’re just getting assets for an outgoing player.
I don’t know what the Grizzlies are getting out of this outside of saving money from Thabeet’s contract, he’ll make 4.8Mil this year, 5.1MIl next year and a team option of 6.5Mil the year after.
Why would the Grizz give up a pick to get Battier, and then buy him out?
That makes no sense whatsoever.
If it was the other way around, sure, Battier and a pick for Thabeet, maybe Grizz are looking to save money and improve in next years draft.
"Phil is obviously a good coach. You don't win that many games without being a damn good coach, ... Remember one thing: He's been very fortunate. He picks his spots. That's all I can say." - Red Auerbach
Wojo wasn't clear on that
he tweeted “Battier for Thabeet plus pick” and not Battier plus pick for Thabeet, it not a real deal yet, just a suggestion with some legs to it
right. they want him as a player and as a solid vet in a young locker room.
and, heisley doesn’t want to pay thabeet to sit on the bench anymore.
Memphis can only trade a conditional pick
If they make the playoffs, they can’t trade a 1st round pick for 2 years. This years upcoming pick is already owed to Utah via Minny.
Well if they wanted to rid themselves of Thabeet that badly.
by Warrior Spirit on Feb 24, 2011 1:07 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Still worried about the future
I know the C’s are firmly in a state of “win now” mode with a veteran-laden team, but I’m still trying to figure out what the long range plan is. It seems we’ve missed on our late draft picks in recent years (Giddens, Walker, etc.), compared to guys like Perk and Al Jefferson. Danny needs to either draft young guys that can play or start acquiring them.
I always liked Jared Dudley’s mid-range game when he was at BC and he seems to have found a good role in the NBA. He’d be a great fill-in for Pierce.
But I agree the C’s really don’t have much to deal. We’re loaded up on veterans that are worth more to us than other teams, our depth players aren’t very sexy, and our draft picks are low 1st round.
Rondo and Perk
Bradley, Semih, possibly Luke, all of the above are under 30.
Bet Ray stays for a while, west could totally resign, think he likes it here.
by Warrior Spirit on Feb 24, 2011 10:13 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I'd put Wafer in there ahead of Luke.
I don’t ever see Luke as more than a bench guy on a mediocre team.
Agree about Luke, just bring hopeful, but yes a career bench man at best, still with some potential and drive.
Still not sold on Wafer, doubt he resigns for what we can offer anyway.
by Warrior Spirit on Feb 24, 2011 12:22 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
The thing I like about Luke
is that while he doesnt project as a starter at all (at least on a championship caliber team) because of his ‘tweener’ nature, he’s still overall a very smart, competent player with some skills and hustle.
Thus he makes a great bench role player. He’s the guy you send out on matchups against the other team’s bench to take on the opposing team’s under-sized bench PF or slower SF. With experience, he could easily become an 8 minute bench role player who you can trust won’t screw up. That may not sound like a lot, but it actually is an important piece of any complete team.
"We will take it easy, and walk on down our road at our pace with our focus ahead, and your focus on us." - Warrior Spirit, on what Celtics' Ubuntu is.
You have communicated my thoughts on the man perfectly
A solid bench role player with hustle and drive, why he is on the list in the 1st place.
by Warrior Spirit on Feb 24, 2011 2:26 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Luke is destined to do well only against undersized opposing bench players.
That’s not what the C’s are facing deep into the playoffs, so Luke’s ceiling is as a part-time bench player who should sit through the playoffs. For the Celtics, that’s not someone they need to develop or have on their team.
For a team in the bottom half of the league, he could be a good, smart, hustling and hard-working low-cost filler-type player off the bench.
As to the move from college to the NBA, he’s unfortunately caught in the greater size and speed vortex that limits him in position and utility at the next level.
People have been doubting Luke his whole career.
And he’s continually proved them wrong.
Too slow, too unathletic, too short.
And somehow he ends up Big East player of the year multiple times, and score more points than any person in Notre Dame history (which, if you need to be reminded, is not exactly devoid of basketball history.)
I refuse to bet against him.
"Phil is obviously a good coach. You don't win that many games without being a damn good coach, ... Remember one thing: He's been very fortunate. He picks his spots. That's all I can say." - Red Auerbach
STEIN_LINE_HQ Marc Stein
With Reggie Evans nearing a return from injury, word is Raps have made rebounding specialist available. Evans has $5.1M expiring contract
3 minutes ago
Rebounding is where the C's were already weak and Krstic isn't much of a help.
Having a good rebounder coming would make a lot of sense.
i expect it will be butler or pavlovic off the dung heap.
by celticinorlando on Feb 24, 2011 10:26 AM EST reply actions
Looks like Quis is out
Time to hang it up pal. Get a deal with the Cs so u get a ring and let us trade you. Spine surgery (I’m guessing it would be on his spine) is no joke.
And while you are at it
convince JO to give us the 6.5 million back lol
by SpecialKxm107 on Feb 24, 2011 10:33 AM EST up reply actions
Any coincidence.....
that the Daniels announcement about possible season ending surgery was made today? From what I read the other day, he was still waiting to consult other doctors. Sounds like the organization is going to buy out Daniels to create a roster spot for a pick up after the trade deadline. Unless GS is going to waive Murphy, he will not be coming via trade. Really, though, we need a serviceable small forward for 10-15 minutes a night. Do not need the second coming of MJ. JO could be done but a trio of Perk, Shaq and Semih in the playoffs is fine with me. What other playoff team has 21 feet at the Center position (and then add KG’s length and Davis’s size). We just need a player. Do not get rid of Semih or Bradley. It is unnecessary given the Daniels announcement today.
Agreed
might be a little seed here to the fans giving us an update on Quis and hopefully they have something lined up for his roster spot.
by SpecialKxm107 on Feb 24, 2011 10:50 AM EST up reply actions
That is a lot of salary to eat.
They are still hopeful he returns to give 5-8 minutes a game of solid d
by Warrior Spirit on Feb 24, 2011 2:29 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Buy him out and hire him as a coaches assistant or scout or something, let him stay around the team, and give us the opportunity to find a backup.
by Warrior Spirit on Feb 24, 2011 12:25 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
dudly or childress
they both have 5 year deals.
maybe childress is more of a risk but he has proven before to be an effective defender and brings a little o to the table.
I haven’t seen dudley play much. is he that much better?
MQD
I feel very bad for Daniels. He was having a very good year for us. I hope he has a full recovery and is able to resume his NBA career, hopefully with the Celtics.
+1
good thoughts to you Quisy.
by Warrior Spirit on Feb 24, 2011 10:52 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
It's a bad break all around - for the Celtics, their fans, and especially for Marquis. Good luck to him.
Hopefully, he’s been saving his money wisely; just in case.
It's bigger then Basketball now.
Just hope for the best for Marquis, he’s a class act and this is a tough break.
"Phil is obviously a good coach. You don't win that many games without being a damn good coach, ... Remember one thing: He's been very fortunate. He picks his spots. That's all I can say." - Red Auerbach
Best of luck to Marquis...
That’s not great news. I hope he has a full recovery in the future.
All the negativity in this town sucks. It sucks, and it stinks, and it sucks. - Rick Pitino
Wouldn't it be great
If you didn’t have to pay players based on their performances (Nate) or an inability to perform (JO) – like ya know a real job? Haha sorry I’m bored at work thinking of JO smiling while he rides an exercise bike…
it would be great
Or even have the size of the championship ring based on the number regular season games you contributed to the team. PP & Ray will have rings the size of their heads and the O’Neals would need magnifying glasses to even see theirs.
I guess i am bored too.
Shaq has played you know.
by Warrior Spirit on Feb 24, 2011 12:26 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
What did you expect
From a 38yo dinosaur who is not known to stay on the court in recent years, playing a deal for vet min
by Warrior Spirit on Feb 24, 2011 1:14 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Exactly.
And frankly, if he didn’t play another reg season game but helps out in the playoffs, I am totally fine with that.
"We will take it easy, and walk on down our road at our pace with our focus ahead, and your focus on us." - Warrior Spirit, on what Celtics' Ubuntu is.
Dudley!
I hope the Celtics bring on Jared Dudley.
Murphy
Murphy is what we need and more likely to fall on our lap after the buyout …..
Overrated player who could not even crack the rotation of the NJ Nets is not a player we need. He doesn’t even play our style of game.
by Warrior Spirit on Feb 24, 2011 12:28 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
you are ridiculous again with your Nick Murphy hatred
by sofutomygaha on Feb 24, 2011 12:39 PM EST up reply actions
Who the heck is Nick Murphy?
I dont hate him, I liked him on the Pacers. But everyone here seems to lust over every moderate to big name thrown out that We Dont Need. I am not the one being rediculous. Pardon me for pointing out he is past his prime, doesnt play our style, does not play a position we need, is NOT trade worthy, couldnt crack the rotation of one of the worst teams in the league never mind one of the
best.
Just because he is the biggest name rumored to be bought out does not mean that we need him. I offer opinions and some facts, no hatred.
If we make a move it will be for the right piece, not just to make a move.
We do not need to accumulate names, we are not the Yankees, nor the Red Sox. We are not desperate we are the eastern conference leading Boston Celtics and everyone is looking up at us. Desperate is not a word to use.
by Warrior Spirit on Feb 24, 2011 1:22 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Interesting that no one ever responds to my posts when I put a little tude behind the truth
I realize I at times come off like a jerk, I dont try to be, and never really mean anything by it.
Overall I find the whole trade deadline entertaining but it IMO does get a bit rediculous with all the ideas some throw around here. Not hating, just relating that we dont need everyone that comes along.
by Warrior Spirit on Feb 24, 2011 2:36 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
sorry about that, I mean Troy
dude, but you said that he is overrated and couldn’t crack the Nets. Murphy has been recovering from back issues and, up to now, the Nets have been trying to develop young bigs. In ‘09, Murphy put up much better numbers than anyone in the Nets front court. He’s been underrated all his career— he’s been a top-10 center for like 7 years and yet this is the most anyone ever talked about him.
Murphy’s offensive game isn’t dissimilar from Sheed’s. He’s the best outside shooting, floor-spacing center in the league (except maybe Kevin Love). On the defensive side, it’s tough to say how he fits in, except that he’s a tremendous defensive rebounder- which plays in any system last time I checked.
I don’t know what you mean about being desperate and needing somebody. We’re a great team- obviously we aren’t desperate. He’s a starter-quality big available for almost nothing, and we have our share of weak guys at the end of the bench. Why on earth would you NOT want Troy Murphy??
by sofutomygaha on Feb 24, 2011 2:51 PM EST up reply actions
trade daniels and cash to cavs for parker...pick up murphy once he is bought out..that gives boston depth at the 2, 4 and 5
by celticinorlando on Feb 24, 2011 11:29 AM EST reply actions
Looks like the first part of your post is in play
Celtics talking Daniels expiring contract for Parker. Straight up? If so, that is a fantastic deal. If we pick up Murphy if he is bought out, my guess is that Luke gets cut to replace the roster spot. I like Luke but it would be the right call. Having Parker and Murphy would make the second unit, assuming all healthy, ridiculous. If Danny can pull this off losing only Daniels (who is done this year anyway) and Luke, he is brilliant. I have a feeling this is where we are headed.
Parker
Davis/Murphy
Shaq/Erdin
West/Bradley
Nate/Wafer
Better yet... send avery back to the D-League again ;)
..we still get to keep luke in the 15man roster ;)
Jo is left off that list
in addition to our starting 5
that equals 15, which equals no Luke
My post assumes that Luke is cut because we sign Murphy.
JO is off the list because I do not expect him back this season. The list is just about the bench not the starters.
Not how it works, d league counts toward your roster
by Warrior Spirit on Feb 24, 2011 1:24 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I find it unlikely they'd do that in just a straight cash saving deal.
But the talks may be over Danny saying he’ll only give a second rounder to pay for the Cavs “Help” and the Cavs holding out till the last possible minute to get a 1st rounder.
"Phil is obviously a good coach. You don't win that many games without being a damn good coach, ... Remember one thing: He's been very fortunate. He picks his spots. That's all I can say." - Red Auerbach
But really we are only lacking in depth at the 3. Shaq and Perk will be back within a week.
by Warrior Spirit on Feb 24, 2011 12:29 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Say it aint so vinnie!
You seriously doubt shaq will play in the playoffs?
I would expect both to play through pain if need be in their respective likely Last Years.
by Warrior Spirit on Feb 24, 2011 1:27 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I think Shaq is out now precisely to get him ready for the playoffs
Doc must feel that Perk and Semih with some help from Baby can hold down the position until the playoffs. I have always believed that the C’s made a side deal with Shaq since he is making the minimum. Use him when needed, let him do his TV thing, give him some burn in the last 10 games, and set him loose for 15 minutes a game in the playoffs. Warrior Spirit it correct. All we need is a 3. If we land Murphy in addition, then even better. But we are pretty much set once we get the 3, even without JO. Geeze, if he comes back for the playoffs, it is like getting a new 7 footer for the playoffs.
The fact that Danny has consistently said he is content with our big man depth
and is not at all looking to add another 7 footer, implies that Danny is more confident about Shaq’s (& possibly JO’s) health than we are. He’s certainly privy to more information than any of us are.
That said, it is also Danny’s official job as GM to lie and deceive ….
So take it as you will.
"We will take it easy, and walk on down our road at our pace with our focus ahead, and your focus on us." - Warrior Spirit, on what Celtics' Ubuntu is.
Everything you hear is a lie.
Except that.
"Phil is obviously a good coach. You don't win that many games without being a damn good coach, ... Remember one thing: He's been very fortunate. He picks his spots. That's all I can say." - Red Auerbach
Accurate on all counts...
—JO is a totally lost cause, a “ball & chain” around the Celts` ankles
—Perk`s latest injury will cause him to miss 3 weeks {not 3 games}
—Shaq is literally spending his winter in Florida trying to heal
—Semih is nearly 25, and has never seen the insides of a weight room
I am sure he had more info and was confident about KG's return two years ago
How did that work out for us?
Around 3 hours left.
Good luck Danny.
"The idea is not to block every shot. The idea is to make your opponent believe that you might block every shot."
- Bill Russell
by Marjun Raposon on Feb 24, 2011 11:49 AM EST reply actions
our problem is that we have no one to give. who would want nate? semih—would be wanted but we need him more than anyone else. bradley— would be wanted but danny sees his potential. dudley is the guy i would want—but why would phoenix not want him after they just had him reupped for cheap. our #1 is way in the back and not that desirable. we will sign some schmo after the deadline and hope he is still alive.
what about Al-Farouq Aminu from the Clippers for Quis
Clips get cap space (currently have 4M) to a usable level and we get a young high pick Rookie SF. Not the veteran people were talking about but a backup with an upside
Honestly i wanted rip hamilton too..
..i mean parker is not a young lad too. And rip is a champion all-star who knows how it is to be in a championship team.. it’s pretty clear the Pistons don;t want him in the new rotation anyway so yeah… buyout hehe
deal on the table..i could live with giving up a low #1 pick for parker...and daniels coming back
by celticinorlando on Feb 24, 2011 12:05 PM EST reply actions
Danny needs to do that dea l now
a low pick for parker? not a difficult decision.
agree. i don't think we need to rebuild around rookies in the draft anyway.
if we do get parker, we’ll be like the cavs’ shelter home with shaq, parker and west
Hmm interesting if we get Parker
by stylo617617 on Feb 24, 2011 12:09 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Phoenix refuses to deal Dudley
it ain’t happening
Why would they?
Parker is about the best we can do in our current situation. And I wouldn’t really mind it at all.
I'll be about as excited about parker as I was about mikki moore
by sofutomygaha on Feb 24, 2011 12:23 PM EST up reply actions
+1
would rather wait for a buyout
by Warrior Spirit on Feb 24, 2011 12:32 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Parker is not a starter
which is the role he was asked to play in Cleveland. As a 10-15 minute guy, he is perfect for this team: experienced, good D, a 3 point threat, hustles. This will be a great move without costing us an active player. No-brainer.
Wouldnt be pissed at the deal, but I think Butler would be a better fit and all you have to do is buy out Quisy and get him in a suit.
by Warrior Spirit on Feb 24, 2011 1:30 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Agree with you about Butler
but not heard his name thrown around for a few days. Perhaps that means he IS coming to Boston!!
Tend to agree.
I’d rather get Butler out of the buyout heap than give up any draft pick for Parker.
That’s not to say I don’t think Parker would be a good fit. He would. I just am an ornery, cheap old bastard and don’t like paying out any more than I have too …
"We will take it easy, and walk on down our road at our pace with our focus ahead, and your focus on us." - Warrior Spirit, on what Celtics' Ubuntu is.
if that offer is legit... it should be happening literally any minute now
i can see parker’s smile on his face already… from the worst to the best team in the east…
when we get Parker already with that deal...
…do you think Ainge will still try for the other prospects? I mean the realistically possible ones
most likely only a buyout
We might see Harangody traded to Sacramento along with a conditional 2nd (they will never see), similar to a few years back, in order to clear roster space.
Sacramento is below the minimum salary threshold at the moment. They need to add salary by the end of the season, or, pay the amount under to the players on its roster. Why would they spend the extra cash for nobody? Better to get a player
they may be under by listed salaries on roster
but are they under by prorated budget?
"We will take it easy, and walk on down our road at our pace with our focus ahead, and your focus on us." - Warrior Spirit, on what Celtics' Ubuntu is.
I say yes... do it
One offer on table: [Anthony Parker] to Celts for Marquis Daniels. #Cavs would buy him out, send him back to Bos. But Cavs want Bos #1 next yr for helping
And throw in some Celtic vs. Heat behind the visitor’s bench playoff tix for Dan Gilbert.
Go Dan… let’s KICK Lebron’s butt together! :-)
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by David Henderson on Feb 24, 2011 12:21 PM EST reply actions
Dan Gilbert should do it even without the pick just to get back at Lebron
and throw in Varejao too
Won't we have to cut someone...
to get Daniels back?
by BlackWhiteGreen on Feb 24, 2011 12:26 PM EST reply actions
C's wouldn't be resigning him
…he’d just be hanging out with the team. Maybe the C’s give him some artificial title with the team
Even if he wasn't kept around on an 'official' capacity
the team still has the option of providing rings to anybody who was on the roster during the season.
So if they did make it to win the title, Quis would still get his ring.
"We will take it easy, and walk on down our road at our pace with our focus ahead, and your focus on us." - Warrior Spirit, on what Celtics' Ubuntu is.
We would...
But one thing the Celts could do is not sign him right away, and monitor his health. So long as he signs before the playoffs, he’s eligible for the playoff roster.
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Info on what seems to be our newest addition...
For guys like me who don’t really know who parker is….
Parker
Parker is not the best but when your desperate ……
He's better than Butler, Kapano, Pavlovic.
And that is good enough for me.
"Phil is obviously a good coach. You don't win that many games without being a damn good coach, ... Remember one thing: He's been very fortunate. He picks his spots. That's all I can say." - Red Auerbach
Crunch time
Trade Daniels for Parker. Trade NATE for a bigman. Trade Luke to Sac town or apart of the Cavs deal. TO free another spot for a rip or troy or another buyout guy
I keep reading
The Clipper and Cavs deal is not 100% done. Could we be apart of that deal in some way,but the three teams have not figured it out
well
at least it wouldnt seem we’re giving up much to get parker. Not exactly exciting news, the guy is like 35 and was never great to begin with.
He's 35
but he’s playing good this year. At his age. We are not losing anything now since Daniels is done for the season
yeah
i’d be mad if we were giving anything else to get him. And a part of me would still rather have the draft pick. But this could be a good move.
Yea I'm not sold on
Loving Bradley but he may be too much if he was added in the deal. Luke would be alright if there was a bigger plan on signing a free agent
Honestly
We would be saving them several hundred thousand dollars buy sending the cash with quisy to buy him out. A 2nd round pick and a guarantee to stick it to Leroid should be enough.
If Danny were sold on it, or didnt think he could do better, he would have made the move already. I bet he doesnt want to over pay either, and a 1st is overpaying. He is not desperate.
by Warrior Spirit on Feb 24, 2011 1:43 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Wow.. all this anticipation for a guy or guys
that will play roughly 10-15mins a game… crunch time excitement
Yeah but
that’s 10-15 minutes less that Paul and Ray have to play :)
by SpecialKxm107 on Feb 24, 2011 12:53 PM EST up reply actions
yeah i hear ya...
its just crazy (in a good way) how we the fanatics can get wired up over the next sub hehe. Its cool though
15-18 mins
u kno doc wants to save paul for the long haul
by stylo617617 on Feb 24, 2011 12:54 PM EST up reply actions
Is Parker a 3 or a 2?
I know we are looking for a back-up for Quis, but NBA.com has Parker listed as a guard. Sorry, but I haven’t watched the Cavs this year even though I live 2 hours south of Cleveland. Can he play the three and defend the Lebrons of the league?
He's got some weight on Daniels though.
So he’s a little better equipped to guard the “big” 3s. Both are 6’6, but Parker’s got about 20 lbs on Quisy. Of course, Quisy is kinda scrawny, so that’s not saying a lot.
"Phil is obviously a good coach. You don't win that many games without being a damn good coach, ... Remember one thing: He's been very fortunate. He picks his spots. That's all I can say." - Red Auerbach
Interesting
that none of the teams that are title contenders have made a move. Lakers, Celtics, Heat, Spurs and Mavericks have done nothing yet. The Bulls, who are close on that list, made a minor deal.
Another observation is that the Celtics are the only major player in the East who have had the same starting 5 since 2008. Some of the other top teams in the East have not had as many as 3 of the same starters. Heat? Wade is the only one. Bulls? Rose and Noah. Magic? Howard and Nelson (and Turk for the second time). Hawks? Johnson and Horford. Knicks? Nobody. This will play to our advantage come playoff time.
Maybe Parker isn't on the move?
Sam Amico: As an aside, Cavs fans, Anthony Parker, Boobie Gibson and Leon Powe are all at practice. about 10 minutes ago
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LOL. I am sure the janitor was at practice too
but still not on the team (although with the Cavs you never know)
I'm sure Cavs fans are all breathing a sigh of relief now
losing any of those players must have been giving them flashbacks of losing lebron
So when I said weeks ago that Quisy was done for the season and done maybe for his career I was right
despite being told to settle down???
Too bad for Quisy….hope the best for him
Is it Soup Yet?
i have felt this way also
hope the C’s do right by him, whatever that means
Always a possibility
Though I did think he’d pull through.
Wish him the best.
by Warrior Spirit on Feb 24, 2011 1:39 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I love the phrase "dangling nate" as an offer
I get the visual image of Nate dangling from a puppet string…..and no one wants to come to the little puppet show…..
Is it Soup Yet?
Dangling or Hanging Po?
:)
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by David Henderson on Feb 24, 2011 1:24 PM EST reply actions
The Latest is Jason Kapono on our radar.
Not thrilled. A good shooter but seems to duplicate a few roles on this team.
The Cavs can’t “send Daniels back to Boston”: first, we have no roster spots, and second, he’s obsolete if we have Parker.
I think more to just be around the team, he is only losing his place on the team do to his inability to play, still a part of the team. I would hope he would be given a ceremonial coaches asst job or something like that. But after today’s announcement in particular I would not expect them to resign him at all
by Warrior Spirit on Feb 24, 2011 1:57 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I think more to just be around the team, he is only losing his place on the team do to his inability to play, still a part of the team. I would hope he would be given a ceremonial coaches asst job or something like that. But after today’s announcement in particular I would not expect them to resign him at all
by Warrior Spirit on Feb 24, 2011 1:57 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Man I dislike when that happens.
Hey Jeff how about giving us the option to delete our own posts? the above happens to be a good reason. A like button would be nice as well, all these and 1’s get a little rediculous, even though half of them are mine.
by Warrior Spirit on Feb 24, 2011 2:46 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Perk may play this road trip
Forsberg on Daily Dime chat with Chad Ford said that Perk told him he may play this trip because “I am a Celtic.”. You gotta love that attitude. Hopefully, Eddie Lacerte agrees with him.
Would much prefer Brewer over Parker
by Warrior Spirit on Feb 24, 2011 2:50 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
i think this is the guy boston really wants...young and has an upside
by celticinorlando on Feb 24, 2011 2:03 PM EST up reply actions
I do not interpret his tweet that way but
can certainly see how you can get that impression. We will know pretty soon. Can you imagine the phone lines right now?
danny-
wassup wit brewer?
is rip getting bought out or what?! u owe me dumars
ill agree to parker NOW
NO WAY
Devin Kharpertian, NetsAreScorching.com/TrueHoop Network: Also: there’s a rumor that the Celtics and Bucks are in talks about Ray Allen. I do not believe them. But they’re there.
This was just posted on the live ESPN trade day chat === no chance of this happening but it shows just how crazy things get
i saw that too
Not gonna happen.
Ridiculous statement.
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I just saw that too, and thought it was absolutley nuts…who exactly on the Bucks would be trade for?! And for Ray Allen of all people.
Ray's got 1mil next year on his deal.
So no chance the Bucks would do that.
And you’d have to add some other pieces too, since if Ray was bought out, and resigned, you need roster spots.
"Phil is obviously a good coach. You don't win that many games without being a damn good coach, ... Remember one thing: He's been very fortunate. He picks his spots. That's all I can say." - Red Auerbach
HA! lol funny tweet about celtics
glad danny is working HARD
No interest in Parker.
Rather just find a buyout guy like Kapono. Especially if the Cavs think they are going to get a 1st out of it. Absolutely laughable.
Parker is far and away better than Kapono.
Or Butler, or Pavlovic.
"Phil is obviously a good coach. You don't win that many games without being a damn good coach, ... Remember one thing: He's been very fortunate. He picks his spots. That's all I can say." - Red Auerbach
I think Parker is very underrated on this board
He’s an above average defender, a smart player, and a very good 3 point shooter. He’s exactly what we’re looking for. A slightly lesser Shane Battier.
I think he's more than slightly lesser...
I agree, though, that he’s probably a bit underrated. He’s not garbage, he’s just old.
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frustrating
bulls wont give up on parker
now to west teams in the bidding war
still having trouble to aquire parker or brewer
Well, we can assume the Knicks are not taking Nate to give us Brewer
As for the 2 dark horse teams in the west for Parker, I doubt LA is one of them. They have Artest and Barnes coming back from injury. Any ideas?
move on...this is a waste of time...get ready to woo RASUAL BUTLER..b/c he is such a difference maker
by celticinorlando on Feb 24, 2011 2:36 PM EST reply actions
Pick ME!
I’m in the chat room too haha
by SpecialKxm107 on Feb 24, 2011 2:41 PM EST up reply actions
In Denver, C’s are focused on business at hand. Back home, one Celtics source suggested a last-minute deal seemed unlikely.
Interesting
ESPNForsberg: In Denver, C’s are focused on business at hand. Back home, one Celtics source suggested a last-minute deal seemed unlikely
Akron Journal is reporting
that C’s and Cavs far apart on a deal. Likely explains the emergence of the two teams from the West as players. My head just rolled off my shoulders.
Off to get the kids from school and then will return to find that the C’s traded KG and PP for second round draft picks.
Or Perkins for Jeff Green...
Alright, gotta admit I’m a Sox/Patriots fan who also likes the Celtics (especially, PP, KG, Rondo and Ray), and I love Big Baby’s persona, fine with Shaq coming to help us win 18… but I liked Kendrick Perkins.
What the hell is this???
Argh
We are all complaining and now we aren’t even getting Parker?! Say it ain’t so! No more Mikki Moores lol
YES!! MORE NATE THROWING UP BRICKS!! i was worried we might get rid of him and actually have a good player in the rotation
by celticinorlando on Feb 24, 2011 2:49 PM EST reply actions
You truly do complain about anything and everything.
My favorite is when you declare that the game is over in the first quarter of GDTs.
gwashburn14 gary washburn
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According to an NBA source, Celtics are close to trading Nate Robinson. More details to come #celtics
2 minutes ago
hopefully not for brewer
imean why would NY want him back? so it cant be brewer when ny has alot of guards now
same team who didnt wanna trade jj hickson for amare stoudimire smh
they really are idiots
Boston has agreed to send Kendrick Perkins to OKC for package that includes Jeff Green, sources tell Y!
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PERK??!?!!!
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Boston has agreed to send Kendrick Perkins to OKC for package that includes Jeff Green, sources tell Y!
Funny
Not happening. But if Thunder had Perk, they would beat the Lakers.
who else is in the package? green solves the small F problem...but we have no bigs
by celticinorlando on Feb 24, 2011 2:57 PM EST reply actions
just heard nenad kristic
trying to confirm
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WTF?
they traded Perk for J.Green???
FML
crazy if real
by friedgreentomatoes on Feb 24, 2011 2:59 PM EST reply actions
For people who thought we would get Battier
Houston has traded Shane Battier to Memphis for Thabeet and a first-round pick, source tells Y!
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Me thinks that Sheed will be walking back through that door soon
by celticinorlando on Feb 24, 2011 3:00 PM EST reply actions
From Wojo on Y! Sports:
The Boston Celtics have reached an agreement in principle to trade Kendrick Perkins(notes) to the Oklahoma City Thunder for forward Jeff Green(notes) and center Nenad Krstic(notes), league sources told Yahoo! Sports
Trading Perk
This was why Semih was “untouchable.” I think Danny was afraid of losing Perk for more money to another team and wanted the insurance. If this is true, Danny may be trying to get something for him now.
Really need Shaq to get healthy asap.
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IF its just perk for those two, who gets cut and how do we sign a wing? I.E. we need to cut two players or make a 2-1 trade
i gotta think they wouldn't make this deal if they felt JO and Shaq weren't coming back
by celticinorlando on Feb 24, 2011 3:02 PM EST reply actions
or if they thought perk wasn't goin to be in a celtic uniform next year
get value now.
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Perk traded
Tim Kawakami reporting perk to OKC?
Anyone got info on that?
"I'm gonna have to watch the film before I can answer that question"
We are screwed at the center position
unless Shaq can come back fully healthy, and then even with that, what about the future!!!
Don't like this
but I do like the Thunder beating the Lakers this spring.
silver lining here is jeff green is above average...
and kind of a piece you want in your future
I like Jeff Green, but I don't like this trade at all
I also like the fact that Nate is gone. Kristic is okay as a center, but Shaq and JO better be healthy, or our front line advantage over Miami is GONE.
We beat Miami TWICE without Perk
if i remember correctly…..MIAMI is the least of our worries down low
Yes -- And I believe we had a guy named Shaq in two of those games and a guy named JO in one of them
That is the problem I see with this. The guys we have at the center position I do not believe will be healthy enough to get it done
this is about matching up with the Heat..
by celticinorlando on Feb 24, 2011 3:06 PM EST reply actions
We already matched up BETTER
against the Cheat because of our bigs. WTF seriously?
by SpecialKxm107 on Feb 24, 2011 3:08 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed. This makes us a little weaker against Miami in my opinion
Also weakens us against Orlando, but maybe Ainge not worried about the Magic. Kristic does not rebound and does not play nearly as good defense as Perk. I do like adding Jeff Green to the lineup, however.
Jeff Green stats this year
15.2 points, 5.6 rebounds, 1.8 assists
Nenad Kristic
7.6 points, 4.4 rebounds
Shaq and Kristic are both over 7. Jermaine is another big boy. If we can get Murphy, we will be fine.
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I am assuming Ainge knew something we don't (e.g. Perk wanting to much $)
I guess I would rather get two bigs for him now than have him walk away from us leaving us with nothing come free agency. Otherwise he would have signed an extension I am assuming
we'll now have Ray Allen, Jeff Green, Baby, and Delonte West
Doesn’t this make the 2007 draft moot? Seattle gave up Ray for nothing.
So -- does this improve or weaken the chances for 18?
I say somewhat weakens, because our center position has been weakened. Not sure that the Green factor outweighs the injuries and the inexperience now at Center.
I think we just got worse on the defensive end
but better on the offensive end, so not sure. May be a wash.
SherrodbCSN A. Sherrod Blakely
League source tells me the #Celtics may not be done dealing. C’s had a handful of scenarios involving trading away Marquis Daniels for a SF.
we got our coveted versatile sf/pf...
…but now our vaunted paint defense is very much kaput!
contracts
Green has one more year at $6m (qualifying offer) and Krstic expires this year. I guess that means we move into the future without a big in the plans.
That is exactly what I am thinking....
Did Danny get a chance to talk to Dwight over All-Star Weekend by chance?
id love to see rondo throwing alley-oops to dwight in 2012.
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by remembering9ergods on Feb 24, 2011 3:23 PM EST up reply actions
Good News
SherrodbCSN A. Sherrod Blakely
Spoke with Marquis’ agent, Mark Bartelstein. Daniels can veto any trade, but Bartelstein said Daniels wouldn’t do that.
SHOCKED!
this just tells me that ainge didnt think perkins would re-sign for what ainge was comfortable with.
alot of people think green is better suited at SF so maybe he plays there?
kristic is an ok player but not great….errrr, hope shaq is healthy soon and erden continues to improve. love to add murphy or someone from buyout now.
will ainge try to lock up green longterm before next season?
a team of bradley, rondo, green, erden, pierce, this years 1st is a good start to a rebuild
how good could the thinder be with perkins? can they use him to oust the lakers? that would be nice. thunder-celtics finals!
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im gonna be all up on you like a spider monkey!
by remembering9ergods on Feb 24, 2011 3:22 PM EST reply actions
no sense!!
Now this really makes no sense to me…Boston has traded Semih Erdan and Luke Harangody to Cleveland for a second-round pick, source tells Y!
NO!
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by remembering9ergods on Feb 24, 2011 3:30 PM EST up reply actions
So much for Semih as insurance for Perk leaving
Does Danny know something we don’t know about JO’s rehab or a possible buyout in the works?
me too, big time.
now if the rip hamilton trade to cleveland had gone through it would make sense. erdena dn luke for rip buyout but…..what does a 2nd rounder do for us? im confused. there has to be more moves. i really liked semih
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by remembering9ergods on Feb 24, 2011 3:43 PM EST up reply actions
They must have a buyout agreement already in the works --- hopefully whoever it is
is TRUE TO THEIR WORD
NICE!
ZachLowe_SI Zach Lowe
Whoa—@Gwashburn says Boston got a Clippers 2012 first-round pick.
WOW! Talk about mising a lot in here going away for a few hours!!!
aaaaanyway, background check on our OKC acquisitions shows me that we got great players from OKC in that deal too especially in Green… But wow…. that was a shocker… I know! I just found out about it now hehe:
http://www.nba.com/playerfile/jeff_green/career_stats.html
http://www.nba.com/playerfile/nenad_krstic/index.html
Is Green an OKC starter?
Sorry i don’t really watch past Durant+Westbrook hehe… But if he is, i hope his game doesn’t change cos he’s coming off the bench especially being a young guy and all… I do hope he is into the “for the ring” mentality rather than “for the playing time” one…
He's both started and come off the bench
overall he’s played their 3rd most minutes.
He’s a way-above average player with good size (6’9") and excellent speed and strength. Not a stellar shooter, but not bad by any means. I always felt he looked out of place in OKC’s system which is so dominated by Westbrook and Durant.
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Whatever happened to JO...
…I would’ve preferred to deal him than Semih… seriously hehe.. but i guess since his name wasn’t mentioned anywhere.. no one really wanted him hehe
Good Trade
Yes we’re glad we traded the Clodhopper , Krstic plays hard and can score, Green well do just fine and now PP can ride the pine………
I support this trade.
Thanks for everything Perk, and Nate.
This gives us health at the and youth in the deal and because we gave up more players I expect more to happen.
In Danny we trust.
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