Report: Perkins and Robinson Traded to Thunder for Green and Kristic
by Green17 on Feb 24, 2011 3:02 PM EST
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From out of nowhere, Woj is reporting that the Celtics are trading Kendrick Perkins and Nate Robinson to the Thunder for Jeff Green and Nenad "Curly" Kristic.
Guess the undefeated starting five comment Doc made last June had no meaning after all...
The Thunder also traded D.J. White and Morris Peterson for Nazr Mohammed, but who knows if that's at all related to the Perk/Nate trade.
UPDATE #1 - From Woj's Twitter:
WojYahooNBA: Boston has traded Semih Erden and Luke Harangody to Cleveland for a second-round pick, source tells Y!
We should all assume something else is going down, as that seems like a total fire sale.
Update #2 Gary Washburn is reporting that the Celts get the Clips 2012 1st rounder (that OKC acquired in the Eric Bledsoe deal)
gwashburn14: According to a source, the Celtics will also get the Clippers 2012 first-round pick out of the deal #celtics
Maybe Danny is stocking up for a run at a Dwight Howard sign and trade in 2012 (really digging for a bright side here).
Update #3 Blakely reporting maybe Murphy + mystery wing will fill the Erds / Luke roster spots.
SherrodbCSN: League source tells me that the #Celtics looking to add Troy Murphy and possibly another wing player.
Update #4: Ken Berger is reporting Marquis Daniels has been sent to the Kings for cash so that the Kings can get above the minimum salary threshold.
KBerg_CBS: Celtics have agreed to send Marquis Daniels to Sacramento for cash, source says.
Update #5: In a unsurprising tweet whose sentiment is shared by many Celtics fans, Woj is reporting:
WojYahooNBA: As you'd expect, Celtics vets are livid over trade of Kendrick Perkins, sources say. He's the tough guy, enforcer. But BOS can't pay him.
Update #6: Is Danny feeling a need for Sheed? A. Sherrod Blakely thinks it's possible:
Boston may also bring back Rasheed Wallace, who has remained in the metro Boston area after retiring following Boston's Game Seven loss to the Lakers in last year's NBA Finals.
Although he told CSNNE.com this past summer that his NBA career was a "wrap like Christmas," sources have indicated recently that Wallace might have a change of heart if the C's had a roster spot become available.
... but David Aldridge disagrees:
daldridgetnt: Told Cs will NOT be re-signing Sheed. Gotta be Murphy after buyout.
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Wow
First reaction, I do not like this….
I guess this is the Celtics saying they are going to make a huge run at Dwight Howard…
i thought about it why blow it up
im trying to make light of the team they have
starters are:
Rajon
Ray
Pierce
Garnett
Shaquille O’neal (i guess)
Bench of:
Delonte West
Von Wafer
Jeff Green
Glen Davis
Kristic
warmers
JO
Avery
the cs have 3 spaces now i liked semih to be honest but im hearing that perkins will be brought out because his main aim is to be a celtic again
don't like BUT it kills a 2 birds with one stone
I don’t like it but I can see the sense in it……back up for PP and youth for an less defensive center….
Well, we added two players to our bench...
… and now don’t have a starting center.
All the negativity in this town sucks. It sucks, and it stinks, and it sucks. - Rick Pitino
which really makes no sense
Jeff Green supposed to be a future starter with Rondo post big three? Something doesn’t add up here
Danny wants to bring Dwight Howard
Now I am sure about this.
Was Great watching you in Green Perk
Hope you have a great career in GS. Hopefully C’s resign you in offseason when your free agent.
I'm disgusted...
This is what happens when you value “the future” over the present. I think this substantially downgrades our chances at #18.
All the negativity in this town sucks. It sucks, and it stinks, and it sucks. - Rick Pitino
Danny wants to bring Howard
We have already talked about it with @Warrior Spirit in other topic.
Danny isn't going to get Howard...
… so if that was his reasoning, he’s a moron.
All the negativity in this town sucks. It sucks, and it stinks, and it sucks. - Rick Pitino
This makes no sense to me
Why jeopardize our chances at a championship this year when Perk was going to be a free agent after the season anyway? Why not just keep him for the rest of the season and playoffs and then not resign him if Danny is serious about Dwight? I don’t understand this deal at all.
+1
In tears over Perk,this is just wrong.
by nanaluvsball on Feb 24, 2011 3:41 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
i was disgusted
when you value the present over the future you end up with the 96 celtics
by MR. CAFETERIA on Feb 24, 2011 4:03 PM EST up reply actions
As a celtics fan and a georgetown fan
I am really excited about getting Jeff Green. He hasn’t been playing his best of late, but he is a solid player that will really help us.
by NYChopper on Feb 24, 2011 3:06 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
I am in complete and utter shock...
"Phil is obviously a good coach. You don't win that many games without being a damn good coach, ... Remember one thing: He's been very fortunate. He picks his spots. That's all I can say." - Red Auerbach
Perk free agent at end of year
Already rejected one deal. Hopefully he ends up back in green next year.
The deal he "rejected" ...
… was a lowball offer that was restricted by the CBA. It’s not evidence he would have walked.
I agree, though: the team cared too much about next off-season, and not enough about winning a title this year.
All the negativity in this town sucks. It sucks, and it stinks, and it sucks. - Rick Pitino
don't like this at all!!!
Are we giving up on #18 this year? We’re losing lenght, defense, and rebounding!!!
- JoeB
by joeb on Feb 24, 2011 3:07 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I love that we were able to pick up Green
But I am not thrilled at losing Perkins.
Who plays the 5? Will they play Howard as well as Perkins does? How will this affect team chemistry??
"I'm gonna have to watch the film before I can answer that question"
It says an awful alot about three things:
1) How Danny feels about his confidence in the health of Shaq and JO this year.
2) How Danny feels about Semih Erden
3) Boston will be throwing everything and the kitchen sink at Dwight Howard in 2013.
"Phil is obviously a good coach. You don't win that many games without being a damn good coach, ... Remember one thing: He's been very fortunate. He picks his spots. That's all I can say." - Red Auerbach
I will add one more thing
4. It says how Danny Feels about big baby. Baby is the one is always in their in crunchtime.
5.
dannys confidence in perks health this year ?
by MR. CAFETERIA on Feb 24, 2011 4:07 PM EST up reply actions
I really dislike this trade
Jeff Green is playing crappy this year, and Kristic is nothing more then a big goofy 7 footer.
I’ve been a Perkins fan ever since I started watching the Celtics and I’m extremely sad to see him go.
To be fair - Green has always seemed mismatched for OKC's scheme.
"We will take it easy, and walk on down our road at our pace with our focus ahead, and your focus on us." - Warrior Spirit, on what Celtics' Ubuntu is.
Well, if he’s putting 15 pts and 7 rebs while playing crappy, then this deal must be a slam dunk.
by kozlodoev on Feb 24, 2011 4:01 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
+1
This is either a joke or I no longer have any faith in # 44. i may have to take time away from this.
No Way.
by Warrior Spirit on Feb 24, 2011 3:21 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Yup
I’m a little numb and in shock.
Flicker of hope … OKC buys out Perk … and we re-sign? (He tossed that idea out weakly like a life-line in the dark …)
"We will take it easy, and walk on down our road at our pace with our focus ahead, and your focus on us." - Warrior Spirit, on what Celtics' Ubuntu is.
Heartbroken
There’s got to be more to the story here, right?
Wait...
Semih and Luke are gone to? What’s going on here? Why are we unloading all of our bigs?
Ya, that deal is really really weird.
Danny is clearing roster spots in a hurry. Why? I don’t know, but I’m imagine something has to be coming.
"Phil is obviously a good coach. You don't win that many games without being a damn good coach, ... Remember one thing: He's been very fortunate. He picks his spots. That's all I can say." - Red Auerbach
NOOOOOOOOOOO
Please let this be untrue.
If it is, then THAT starting five will stay undefeated in a seven game series.
DHoward
D Howard will be enjoying this!!!!! say goodbye to this champion run! How can you trade your best defensive center for this guy????
+100000000000000000000000000000.
Key cog to 18.
by Warrior Spirit on Feb 24, 2011 3:22 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
x whatever that is.
un fuc*ing believable.
danny brought them 17
- danny does not suck, po’
your first bad post ever, but under the circumstances i understand – knee jerk reaction
Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk
Have some faith
I was the first guy to jump on Danny when he passed on Brandon Roy and bought the pick from Phoenix to get Rondo. I thought he was insane and trashed him wherever and whenever possible.
Again, I was upset when we gave up the five pick as part of the Ray Allen trade. In the end it brought us #17 and now we get the five pick back.
I’m now willing to give Danny a HUGE benefit of doubt because we clearly don’t know the whole picture.
Best of luck, Perk. Thanks for everything you did. I hope you come back. But I still believe in Danny.
by can't teach height on Feb 24, 2011 3:32 PM EST up reply actions
Do they expect Krstic to come in and start?
Everyone’s hurt, and we trade away the one guy that’s gonna only miss two or three games.
It Ain't April!
This is not a good day for Jokes
It's on Hoopshype, so it must be true
Plus, we have Semih to start. :-0
"People don't understand, if you can't live the rest of your life off one year in the NBA, you can't live off 21." -- Keon Clark
Guarding Dwight
Could it be that the Celtics don’t think they need someone who could guard Dwight alone anymore because the rest of the Magic took a step back?
This is a major factor
in trading Perk, in my opinion. I don’t think Orlando is a threat to beat Boston in a 7 game series. I think a wing is more important than a big at this point, b/c of Quis injury.
I’m really high on J
"I'm gonna have to watch the film before I can answer that question"
Still didnt get the freakibg wing!!!
by Warrior Spirit on Feb 24, 2011 3:24 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Danny still has Daniel's contract to deal
or buyout.
"We will take it easy, and walk on down our road at our pace with our focus ahead, and your focus on us." - Warrior Spirit, on what Celtics' Ubuntu is.
This is a terrible idea
What gets me is what KP was worth? Really Jeff Green and Kristic? Seriously?
So we traded our starting (and only healthy - kinda) center
for a 6th man and a bad center… wow. Makes no sense at all even if Perk walked out this summer.
Terrible, terrible.
OKC will keep him
not a doubt in my mind.
"People don't understand, if you can't live the rest of your life off one year in the NBA, you can't live off 21." -- Keon Clark
Truth.
And Ibaka now starts at 4, they just got a huge upgrade. Boston is banking on their remainingg depth at Center bieng healthy enough for the stretch run.
This trade is a significant upgrade for the future of the team, Jeff Green is a young, extremely talented player. This guy can be an all-star and will pair well with Rondo for the future.
It’s a gamble Ainge is taking here, major gamble. If Shaq and JO aren’t healthy in the playoffs, this will bite us in the ass, big time.
"Phil is obviously a good coach. You don't win that many games without being a damn good coach, ... Remember one thing: He's been very fortunate. He picks his spots. That's all I can say." - Red Auerbach
No kidfing
If I am Perk I go to Miami just to stick it to Danny
by Warrior Spirit on Feb 24, 2011 3:25 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Love this deal so much for the Celtics
There was no chance of Perkins resigning in Boston. Green is just 24.
my only question to you is
Did you think the Celts were going to compete after the Big 3 retire? So why care about 2 years from now. IF the Celts dont win this season, chances of them winning again with the Big 3 goes down considerably.
Perkins is no lock to stay healthy the rest of 2011.
Pierce, Garnett, and Ray Allen aren’t close to retirement and Green will help next year as well. You can’t improve the team in free agency, and you need to give up value to get value.
by superluminal on Feb 24, 2011 3:15 PM EST up reply actions
Playing for one year
Is what bad teams do. Danny’s looking to the future when they won’t have Perkins regardless of what happens in 2011.
by superluminal on Feb 24, 2011 3:20 PM EST up reply actions
Are you kidding me?
Playing for one year when your team has the best record in the conference with a group of aging stars possibly in their final season together who were minutes away from a championship the year before and the favorite to return to the Finals is entirely different. It makes no sense to blow it up for Jeff Green, unless Danny knows something we don’t.
Green is not an average player.
I promise you that.
"Phil is obviously a good coach. You don't win that many games without being a damn good coach, ... Remember one thing: He's been very fortunate. He picks his spots. That's all I can say." - Red Auerbach
very true.
"We will take it easy, and walk on down our road at our pace with our focus ahead, and your focus on us." - Warrior Spirit, on what Celtics' Ubuntu is.
Agree
People on here don’t realize Perk is gonna be huge on open market. Goes back to teams trading good players(Deron Williams, Carmelo) so they dont lose out entirely.
No
But still, they dont wanna lose out on Perkins going somewhere else for nothing, which he will probably do. To get a talent like Jeff Green was a good move.
Some tweets say Nate is included in the deal too?!?!?!?
http://twitter.com/ESPN_MobileNews
If yes, this deal sucks. Chemistry is invaluable.
Wouldnt nate have to be included...or at least someone...
We are at a full roster.
Good Point
I guess we are deep enough there assuming Delonte stays healthy
My prediction...
The team is demoralized, and we lose tonight while playing with no heart… = (
Nenad Kristic and Shaq are both over 7 feet tall. We still have plenty of a height advantage over the Heat.
When the playoffs come, let Shaq battle Dwight and Kristic can be his relief.
We basically downgraded Perk for Kristic but upgraded Nate for Green.
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Krstic may be 7' tall...
… but he’s a terrible rebounder and defender.
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He can score, but he's a stiff on defense.
We better pray KG can get through to him somehow.
"Phil is obviously a good coach. You don't win that many games without being a damn good coach, ... Remember one thing: He's been very fortunate. He picks his spots. That's all I can say." - Red Auerbach
also have JO
and possibly Troy if he gets bought out.
I’m not panicing yet.
We def downgraded Perk to Kristic
but Nate is just awful. We get a nice young talent in Jeff Green.
If we can get Troy Murphy we are absolutely fine.
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Green is a HUGE value upgrade over Nate
I have to admit, as much as I loved Perkins – Green is so much more valuable to have over Nate that it makes up for any loss of having Kristic instead of Perk.
If I detach myself fully from the emotional side of it – this is a huge value trade by Danny.
Extremely gutsy to try to pull this off during a championship run. If it works – if we still make it to the finals – this locks him up as GM of the year, easy.
"We will take it easy, and walk on down our road at our pace with our focus ahead, and your focus on us." - Warrior Spirit, on what Celtics' Ubuntu is.
But I absolutely loved having Perkins on this team.
"We will take it easy, and walk on down our road at our pace with our focus ahead, and your focus on us." - Warrior Spirit, on what Celtics' Ubuntu is.
Not Nate Robinson also???
There has to be more to this?
"Salmon and Mash Potatoes"
Greg + Tony OSU Class of '04
Well, let's hope that this helps OKC knock off the Lakers...
Perk will look great out there.
All the negativity in this town sucks. It sucks, and it stinks, and it sucks. - Rick Pitino
yeah, right.
Lakers are a LOCK in the West, San Antonio not withstanding.
U-C-L-A Fight, Fight, Fight! Go Bruins!
Really, Ben Howland? 2 NBA All-Stars,
and you still couldn't get it done?!
Go Lakers! Go Dodgers! Serena, Marry Me!
This is disgusting
How the hell are we going to beat Orlando and Miami now? And don’t sleep on the Bulls either!
We're going to pay Jeff Green but not Perk?
I don’t get this. It just seems like we sold out this year’s team for the future.
Green's a RFA.
There will be a variety of ways to retain his services.
by superluminal on Feb 24, 2011 3:16 PM EST up reply actions
?
well there goes banner 18 if this is true. very upset right now.
wow
shaq and j.o. better be healthy.
"I've hacked into your brain. You're throwing a party and no one's showing up."
MOTIVATION FOR THIS DEAL??
Has to be :
1) Robinson’s terrible play this season
2) Danny felt he could not re sign Perk to a reasonable deal in the offseason
It certainly doesn’t make any sense from a BASKETBALL standpoint. Ugh. Why. Unless he felt that Perk wasn’t healthy enough to contribute in the playoffs this season and would walk at the end…
by dobbs on Feb 24, 2011 3:15 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
on #2
This doesn’t completely rule out Danny re-signing Perk back as a free agent after the season …
One could look at this as just a cold, calculating value grade by DA, getting the maximum for an expiring contract.
Green is a HUGE upgrade over Nate. Don’t ignore that.
"We will take it easy, and walk on down our road at our pace with our focus ahead, and your focus on us." - Warrior Spirit, on what Celtics' Ubuntu is.
Perk was my very favorite Celtic.
But I’m not sure this isn’t an okay to pretty good deal for the C’s. Would like to know more about the contracts of the guys coming in.
it took Perk to get rid of Nate?
Danny “Captain Kirk” Ainge just fired the blue phasers at his won ship…
Is it Soup Yet?
Danny has learned...
from the horrible way this team was handled after the Bird era. He can’t sign Perk to a long term deal that is not to the C’s liking. And he can’t just let him walk. So, it hurst us this year, no doubt. But it’s good long-term management. Like it or not, that’s Danny’s job too.
Just thank gawd it isn't Gerald Green
"People don't understand, if you can't live the rest of your life off one year in the NBA, you can't live off 21." -- Keon Clark
it's not official yet but Green could have a been a Celtic earlier
he was the number 5 pick that was packaged along with Delonte and Wally to the Sonics to get Ray Allen
Yeah, we now have both sides of that trade back, except for Wally.
Wierd.
’Don’t want Wally back, though.
"We will take it easy, and walk on down our road at our pace with our focus ahead, and your focus on us." - Warrior Spirit, on what Celtics' Ubuntu is.
Weird
Now the Celtics have Big Baby, Ray Allen, Delonte West and Jeff Green. All parts of the Ray Allen trade.
by papa shuttlesworth on Feb 24, 2011 3:16 PM EST reply actions
Heh - beat me to that!
"We will take it easy, and walk on down our road at our pace with our focus ahead, and your focus on us." - Warrior Spirit, on what Celtics' Ubuntu is.
Demoralized
I can’t believe my favorite player, the core of our defense (no offense KG), is gone. What is Krstic gonna give us? Jeff Green is good defensively I believe, but we need to solidify presence in the lane?
You don't give up your future starting center for role players
Nenad is a temp at best, can’t play Defense
is Jeff Green supposed to be the next great superstar? OKC didn’t think so.
Don’t know what’s going on here and if Perk is really that badly hurt, why would OKC make a trade for a guy that will fail a physical?
Something here doesn’t add up, this is either smoke or something incomplete
isnt' Jeff Green a SF?
Doubt we traded Daniels for a SF if we just got Green.
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Horrible trade for you guys
Partially functional, half of me is comfortable, the other half is close to the Cliff, like Mrs. Huxtable
by King Henry the 2nd on Feb 24, 2011 3:17 PM EST reply actions
Bad move
As some posted up earlier in this thread this will seriously impact our chances for Banner #18. I like Jeff Green but we need size and toughness up front. It was one of our best assets and now we’ve traded it away. Very disappointed in Danny and the management team for this move. I realize he was going to be a tough sign but we needed to go after it this year.
I love Kendrick Perkins
But this idea he is some kind of god is ridiculous. He’s a nice, but limited player who plays a valuable position. The Celtics have looked fine when they’ve played without him and he has not looked great coming back from a major injury. He was gone next year anyway.
they can't afford to give him $50 million, and he's an injury liability
There are so many more ways to retain Green.
by superluminal on Feb 24, 2011 3:21 PM EST up reply actions
Say it's $40 million.
It doesn’t matter how much it is: the Celtics wouldn’t be paying it.
by superluminal on Feb 24, 2011 3:24 PM EST up reply actions
That is bull oerk is easily worth 40-45 mil for 5 years.
by Warrior Spirit on Feb 24, 2011 3:30 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Same typos hrre too, this is rediculous
by Warrior Spirit on Feb 24, 2011 3:29 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
He is a starting Center for an NBA franchise who can rebound and play defense
Name me some other Centers you would rather have…
The list wont be that long.
And you are speculating about him leaving next season.
there are plenty of centers who can rebound and play defense.
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Well, in order to compare..
What other centers have a developed relationship with Kevin Garnett? What other centers are playing next to four all stars, three of them who are future hall of famers?
I am as gutted as anyone about the Perkins departure, but I do have a lot of faith in the front office of this franchise. As long as I can remember Danny Ainge has made moves for the better, not the worse. He may have missed a few signings here and there, but he’s done better than average.
Remember he’s the guy who famously told Red, back when Bird, McHale and Parish all were banged up and ready to retire, that he had to take the opportunities to improve his team, even if it would cause the breaking of many fans hearts (latter part is my interpretation). He’s just shown that he was man enough to act up to those words.
And the end of the day, most of us root for the laundry, not the ones who wear it.
Your biggest advantage was size
Now you don’t have that anymore. And I’m sorry, but Shaq is not good anymore. The Heat and the Magic have to be licking their chops after this deal.
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by King Henry the 2nd on Feb 24, 2011 3:21 PM EST up reply actions
Shaq isn't good anymore?
Kevin Garnett would beg to differ. He has done nothing but rave about Shaq.
Shaq is perfect for what this team needs: A big body who can rebound, bang bodies with Dwight Howard and a more then capable passer on offense.
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Shaq? Who? The guy who can't play more than 5 games without getting injured
And let’s not forget JO. I am sure he is going to be a big factor moving forward. Terrible, terrible trade.
welll........................
not really we got a guy that can defend james that is bigger than james we got a 7 foot center who is capable and we got 3 spaces free to fill i tihkn other than perk we haven’t really lost any talent in this deal theres noise of his deal being brought out
You forget, Parish put up nightly 10 and 10's
and that was all that was needed, that and his great defence, with the original big 3. Perk didn’t have to be Bill Russell, just exactly what he was. This move blows.
Bad trade -- I would say Number 18 is out of the question this year
We are now weaker against Miami. Why Danny, why?
No we're not.
Seriously dude, if anything maybe we’re weaker against Orlando, but Miami had no dominating inside presence that Perkins was needed for.
If anything we’re stronger against them now, Jeff Green is a very talented player, now coming off the bench. He can play the 3 of 4, can give a valuable scoring punch to the second unit.
Look, I love Perk, he was a great fit for this system, because we didn’t care about his offense, and his defense was very good. But he wasn’t the single reason we’d be winning Banner 18, and this team has not downgraded significantly.
My only worries is the shake up it will have on the team, this is a major move, changing a guy who has been at the heart of your franchise for years now.
"Phil is obviously a good coach. You don't win that many games without being a damn good coach, ... Remember one thing: He's been very fortunate. He picks his spots. That's all I can say." - Red Auerbach
We're not weaker against the team that beat us for the championship last year?
Kristic, a rookie and two old men with a myriad of health problems to go up against Bynum, it’s a joke.
He said Miami, not LA.
Might be, but at the same time, Green can bring a scoring punch and versatility to the second unit we haven’t had… ever.
Between Green and Baby coming off the bench at 3/4, these are guys who can put up 15 on a regular basis. Don’t kid yourself into thinking that doesn’t have some real value.
Loved Daniels, but Green is an incredibly versatile scorer, and can play both the 3 and 4 positions.
"Phil is obviously a good coach. You don't win that many games without being a damn good coach, ... Remember one thing: He's been very fortunate. He picks his spots. That's all I can say." - Red Auerbach
I know what he said but the Lakers are the threat
We’re weaker against them period
agreed. we are practically in the same situation when perk went down in the finals last year, with old bodies trying to play a crapload of minutes every other day. the downgrade at the 5 is too much to handle against the lakers with all the wear and tear, if we get there in the first place
To be fair..
Last season, it was only Sheed. If we get Troy Murphy, that’s him, Jo, and Shaq, not even including Kristic.
Honestly, if this team’s good enough as it is now to infact win the East and worry about how they match up against the Lakers in the first place, they’re probably good enough after all. But like it’s been said, I’m still not scared of the Heat…and the Magic? Yea, they lost to the Kings at home. I know, a regular season game, but how much better have they ever been, really?
Honestly, we’re solid now if we get Murphy. It could be argued we may not even have enough minutes for him, or at least not a lot. Perkins was already gonna miss this road trip. If Danny feels he’s had enough and is willing to compensate his loss, then have it, Danny.
Actually, I just was looking at his stats
and Kristic played pretty well defensively against the Lakers last year in the playoffs when OKC took LA to 6 games. He posted a DRB% of 17.3% and a Defensive Rating of 105. Not great, but pretty decent numbers.
"We will take it easy, and walk on down our road at our pace with our focus ahead, and your focus on us." - Warrior Spirit, on what Celtics' Ubuntu is.
Clearly Danny and Doc think JO, Shaq and Krystic and BABY is enough at center this year, there are only so many minutes
plus you upgrade BIG TIME the back up for PP. Green is very very good
this backfires if JO and Shaq and Baby can’t put in 15 minutes at center in a playoff game
Frankly this may mean something about how Kevin feels too. Not that he wants to be down in the post but he may think Baby, Shaq and JO are fine for now
Green is versatile as well.
Able to switch between the 3 and 4. And Baby is able to switch between 4 and 5. It gives you options to manage both KG, Shaq, and JOs minutes.
But yes, Shaq and JO have to be healthy at some point in the playoffs for this to make sense. If both are not able to play when it matters, this deal could really severely hurt.
"Phil is obviously a good coach. You don't win that many games without being a damn good coach, ... Remember one thing: He's been very fortunate. He picks his spots. That's all I can say." - Red Auerbach
Then again...
Perk was gonna be out for the rest of this road trip. Sprained MCL on one knee and just repaired ACL on the other?
I can imagine a long talk about Perk in the Celtics’ meeting room before doing this.
I dont agree with that binnie
All is not lost, we still got miamis number, but i liked our cjances far more with shaq off thr bench
by Warrior Spirit on Feb 24, 2011 3:33 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Perkins ain't Pierce
Stop panicing.
U-C-L-A Fight, Fight, Fight! Go Bruins!
Really, Ben Howland? 2 NBA All-Stars,
and you still couldn't get it done?!
Go Lakers! Go Dodgers! Serena, Marry Me!
(wrong spot above)
U-C-L-A Fight, Fight, Fight! Go Bruins!
Really, Ben Howland? 2 NBA All-Stars,
and you still couldn't get it done?!
Go Lakers! Go Dodgers! Serena, Marry Me!
We are weaker against the Lakers, first and foremost. The team the Celitcs had built was not made to compete with the Knicks, the Bulls or the Heat. It was built to compete against the three headed beast that is Gasol, Bynum and Odom – and in those regards, the Celtics are definitely weaker now. Shaq, Garnett and Baby are just not as intimidating to the Lakers as they were prior to the trade.
Against the Magic? Meh. Howard did still go off on us with 25-30 pts games and loads of rebounds. Perkins may have limited some, but in a playoff series it is impossible to limit him being the dominant force he is. However, Howard have also shown that he cannot beat the Celtics on his own, and as it looks right now, the Magic are in a much darker place than we are.
The Heat? Are you kidding me? The Heat got nothing even resembling an inside presence? Joel Anthony? Erick Dampier? Those would be the ones Perk would make most of his battles against – granted, he would now and then give a few blows to LeBron and Wade, but nothing that would substantially alter the matchups. The Heat are still as inferior to the Celtics as they were prior to the trade.
dumbest.trade.ever
If Perk is traded, you have to get something better than Jeff Green. He sucks.
C'mon now
Jeff Green does not suck. Not sure I like the trade either, but Green can help us.
by ShakersJacobson on Feb 24, 2011 3:21 PM EST up reply actions
No freaking way dude.
Green is a REALLY good player.
"Phil is obviously a good coach. You don't win that many games without being a damn good coach, ... Remember one thing: He's been very fortunate. He picks his spots. That's all I can say." - Red Auerbach
It's tough to perform when you have the tandem duo
of westbrook and durant on your team, but green still managed to average 15 ppg and 6 rb a game.
The only discouraging thing about this game to me was that Boston was without KG and Perk. Having those two guys back would make them so much stronger, that I am not sure we can win against them.
by letsgoblue86 on Feb 24, 2011 3:34 PM EST up reply actions
This.
Look up his numbers, they haven’t been terrible.
Not all star level, but no terrible.
"Phil is obviously a good coach. You don't win that many games without being a damn good coach, ... Remember one thing: He's been very fortunate. He picks his spots. That's all I can say." - Red Auerbach
Yeah I don't know why everyone
is so down on Jeff Green. He’s a very good player that does all the little things well and has good touch from 3 for a big man. The thing that Celtics fans will find out is that he is a phenomenal passer. I look forward to him and rondo playing together
really can't express enough how much i hate this trade
can’t wait to hear Ainge’s rationale for how this makes us a better contender THIS year!!!
- JoeB
Danny has earned my trust...
People who are saying 18 is out the window are crazy. We still have a chance to win the title, regardless. Did it improve our chances? that can be debated, but lets not jump off a bridge.
I agree
I really dont like this trade, but its not like we just became a .500 team after this. We just got a PF who could start on half the teams in the league.
They now have a wagon full of retreads and inexperienced guys to play center
Just like the Heat. I am extremely distraught over this trade. Goodbye #18.
yeah. maybe the bottom half. whos’ are starting center? we already have a starting PF (KG) and his backup (BBD). is Green gonna backup Pierce?
- JoeB
He can certainly play the 3.
So I don’t see why not.
He’s young, athletic, with the size and speed to guard even the biggest of SFs.
"Phil is obviously a good coach. You don't win that many games without being a damn good coach, ... Remember one thing: He's been very fortunate. He picks his spots. That's all I can say." - Red Auerbach
I'm there.
I just loved Perk with his scowl and dirty-hands & hard work persona.
But if I put on my cold, calculating GM hat, this is a helluva value trade.
Yes, Perk > Kristic. But Green >>>>>>>>> Nate.
Plus a 2012 pick!
"We will take it easy, and walk on down our road at our pace with our focus ahead, and your focus on us." - Warrior Spirit, on what Celtics' Ubuntu is.
Wow guys.....
What was our record without Perkins this year?
We’ll be just fine. Dude is an injury away from never stepping on an NBA court again. And Perkins or not, we weren’t winning any championship this year is Pierce cannot get some rest.
I don’t LOVE the trade, but I’m fine with it. Danny has done way more right then wrong, and I’m willing to give him the benefit for now on this deal. I’m sure there is more to come. West was gonna steal Nate’s minutes anyways.
That record was with a healthy Shaq though...
… the same Shaq who is currently sidelined with no return in sight.
All the negativity in this town sucks. It sucks, and it stinks, and it sucks. - Rick Pitino
Are the Celtics in danger
of dropping out of the playoffs?
by superluminal on Feb 24, 2011 3:27 PM EST up reply actions
Hahahahaha.
Go home.
"Phil is obviously a good coach. You don't win that many games without being a damn good coach, ... Remember one thing: He's been very fortunate. He picks his spots. That's all I can say." - Red Auerbach
Not making friends here, Danny?
ESPN reporters are shaking their heads. lol
At first glance, I sort of feel as I did when Al Jefferson was traded.
That trade also took awhile to adjust to.
This thread is very similar to....
The 2007 thread about us acquiring Ray Allen and giving up Jeff Green. How ironic.
When can we expect the other shoe to drop?
… i.e., the equivalent of landing KG?
All the negativity in this town sucks. It sucks, and it stinks, and it sucks. - Rick Pitino
Grasping for a bright side here Roy
Really, Really, grasping. :)
Dwight Howard :/
It’ll be a long risky wait though.
by beantownboy171 on Feb 24, 2011 7:50 PM EST up reply actions
but that was a two part deal
when Ray signed on, KG followed – maybe this deal has a second part to it too
according to sherrod blakely
there could be more
The only discouraging thing about this game to me was that Boston was without KG and Perk. Having those two guys back would make them so much stronger, that I am not sure we can win against them.
by letsgoblue86 on Feb 24, 2011 3:35 PM EST up reply actions
Danny has been high on Jeff Green...
Ever since he traded him for Ray Allen.
Shaq and JO.
Both play him pretty damn well.
Oh and by the way, Howard went off on Perk the last time they played, he’s going to get his no matter who is guarding him. Perk just makes it a little harder than the rest. And still doesn’t play in crunch time, when Baby has been out there guarding Howard and hitting big shots.
So stop this “Perk is our only chance to win” junk. I love Perk, but he was not the most important part of the team, just a nice piece who is replaceable.
"Phil is obviously a good coach. You don't win that many games without being a damn good coach, ... Remember one thing: He's been very fortunate. He picks his spots. That's all I can say." - Red Auerbach
WHAT ARE YOU DOING BOSTON?!
Oh my god…………
Were you this desperate for scorers?
I love the Lakers and the Clippers. Why? They lost to the Cavs. And the Clippers kicked the Heat's ass!
East is now up for grabs
Miami has to be so happy. Orlando ruined their team through FA and trades now the Celts down grade their team as well.
i hate it!
we did basically trade green for ray allen once upon a time and this makes us a better team in the future and i want title this year.. ughh! i love perk, i hope this fails somehow.. i bet perk mad, maybe we have no faith in his long term health.. this sucks
can someone pls tell me this is a j0ke..
perk is built f0r the playoffs..can jeff green st0p dwight come playoffs time? this is a n0t a gud move fr0m danny.
I know I'm late, but this is a joke, right?
Danny just got rid of Perk for two (pretty much) nobodies? Sorry, without Perk we can kiss the championship run goodbye.
Perk gave the Celtics exactly (or pretty damn close)
to what Parish gave them. That’s exactly what the Celtics need. Jeff isn’t going to keep any center out of the paint.
Bad move.
Hey - Kristic isn't exactly invisible.
He’s a legitimate 7 ft center who has playoff experience.
He played pretty decent against LAs bigs in last year’s playoffs.
No, he’s not as good as Perk defensively. But he’s not terrible and he has a decent shooting touch.
If we have Shaq healthy for the playoffs we’ll be fine. Semih is getting better each game as well. And if JO actually comes back, we’ll be more than fine.
And Green is a major, major upgrade in value over Nate.
By far the best backup SF we’ve had behind Pierce in ages. He can play a little at PF as well.
"We will take it easy, and walk on down our road at our pace with our focus ahead, and your focus on us." - Warrior Spirit, on what Celtics' Ubuntu is.
Kristic isn't invisible, but I'd still
take perk over him. Shaq may or may not be available in the playoffs, Semih is gone (at least that’s what I’ve read) and if J.O. comes back appears to be a mighty big if. I think the duo of Gasol and Bynum (let alone Howard) would eat Kristic up.
And, of course your right about Green being a huge upgrade over Nate. Maybe the whole move is a wash? I’d have to talk myself into that position – I don’t think it’s an upgrade.
Shots
I was really looking forward to see Nate going.. And now this?
Better not be true, but would be odd timing if it wasn’t.
Is there something we don't know about?
Is there something we don’t know about because I don’t understand this trade.
wow
i’m worried how this affects the locker room. looks like that starting five never will lose a playoff series
This is terrible.
What can Jeff Green do that Big Baby can’t do??? Besides dunk a basketball gracefully. So now Erden and Krstic get to guard Howard, Bynum, etc. (Because Shaq and Jermaine never seem to be healthy.) Wonderful.
YURP
Play the 3.
"Phil is obviously a good coach. You don't win that many games without being a damn good coach, ... Remember one thing: He's been very fortunate. He picks his spots. That's all I can say." - Red Auerbach
Can he
I know he is an undersizef 4, but can he play the 3?
by Warrior Spirit on Feb 24, 2011 3:38 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
6'9, 235, with good athleticism.
Why can’t he?
"Phil is obviously a good coach. You don't win that many games without being a damn good coach, ... Remember one thing: He's been very fortunate. He picks his spots. That's all I can say." - Red Auerbach
Would rather have overpaid for Parker.
Damn it
by Warrior Spirit on Feb 24, 2011 3:39 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
The question is, would you have over paid for Perkins?
I’m guessing a critical issue for Ainge may have been that he figured he couldn’t afford to resign Perkins.
No, is the answer.
"Phil is obviously a good coach. You don't win that many games without being a damn good coach, ... Remember one thing: He's been very fortunate. He picks his spots. That's all I can say." - Red Auerbach
Putting this in perspective...
We needed a swingman, Jeff Green is an upgrade to Marquis. We needed another body at the 5, someone that can play more than 10 consecutive games. With Von Wafer playing well, and Delonte back, Nate was expendable. So this trade filled holes.
I really hate seeing Perk go. So as a fan, I really hate this trade. F’ all this talk about this “being a business” BS.
Reality check
Perkins has put up a 10.22 PER this season, right around luminaries like Kurt Thomas, Ryan Hollins, and Erick Dampier.
Granted PER doesn’t take into account defense, but don’t let the fact the guy was a valuable contributor to a championship team hide the fact that he’s nothing close to what most of you imagine.
PER is a horrible stat.
Steph Curry and Reggie Williams all day baby!
by GovernorStephCurry on Feb 24, 2011 3:27 PM EST up reply actions
You're right
that’s why every statistical analyst in basketball cites it.
by superluminal on Feb 24, 2011 3:28 PM EST up reply actions
+1
PER is a monstrosity of a stat that should be shot, stabbed, pissed on, have its face rubbed in a pile of dog shit, get gas poured on it, set on fire and then kicked over the edge of a land fill.
I’m just sayin’ …
"We will take it easy, and walk on down our road at our pace with our focus ahead, and your focus on us." - Warrior Spirit, on what Celtics' Ubuntu is.
We are reacting with our hearts
Let us be! We love Perk. He has been nothing but a professional and he put his heart out for the Celtics. The smoke will clear eventually and reality will set in. But this in no way is something that should be celebrated.
Jeff Green. You got big shoes to fill. You better be worth it.
Krstc is 8.91
"People don't understand, if you can't live the rest of your life off one year in the NBA, you can't live off 21." -- Keon Clark
Again,
PER is a horrible stat.
Don’t make me abuse it again …
"We will take it easy, and walk on down our road at our pace with our focus ahead, and your focus on us." - Warrior Spirit, on what Celtics' Ubuntu is.
Awful Awful Awful Awful Awful Awful Awful Awful Awful Awful
Imagine what this team is going to feel like tonight? Sorry, but there is no way to put a good spin on this in terms of the Celtics winning a championship this year.
Stanley1 nails it
“What was our record without Perkins this year? We’ll be just fine. Dude is an injury away from never stepping on an NBA court again. And Perkins or not, we weren’t winning any championship this year is Pierce cannot get some rest.”
Chance of winning 18 without a quality backup for Pierce- Zero.
Chance of winning 18 without Perk- Not zero.
This makes it tough, but we weren’t winning it without a backup 3. It would have been like 2009 all over again when we couldn’t make it to the finals from being short handed.
+10000
People on this post can get pissed off all they want. But without a backup for Pierce, there is no chance to win a title. Same thing happened last year. Celtics had no consistent small forward off the bench in 2010 and that worn Pierce out which led to alot of injuries.
Yes Perk is a good defender, but he is a dud on offense which forces teams to play 5 on 4 which is easier to defend. Kristic is an upgrade in my opinion, and is not a bad defender. I watched him alot when he was on the Nets
by OsirusCeltics on Feb 24, 2011 3:44 PM EST up reply actions
In the preseason, while pulling for Lasme to make the team over Wafer, I kept asking the same question...
… which was, what would the Celtics do if either Pierce or Daniels went down?
I couldn’t have known then that Lasme would take himself out of the picture with an injury in a matter of days. But the bigger issue remained.
Yeah I'm pretty sure that if Lasme were still healthy and playing in the D-Leagues
that he would have got the call-up when Daniels went down.
Damn this stupid Boston sports injury curse!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"We will take it easy, and walk on down our road at our pace with our focus ahead, and your focus on us." - Warrior Spirit, on what Celtics' Ubuntu is.
Yet if Perkins plays in Game 7
the Celts win the NBA championship. So a backup for Pierce is a moot point.
He's a backup for Pierce and KG
Did you miss the playoffs and see how worn out KG and Pierce were because of no help from the bench? Look how refreshed both of them are now this season and playing really well. You don’t think if they played like that in last years finals, we wouldn’t have won in 5 games?
by OsirusCeltics on Feb 24, 2011 5:38 PM EST up reply actions
Not a wise trade but a good trade.
Trading Perkins was a huge Boston mistake at this time of the season. Boston no longer has body size inside the paint. This means, Boston is now smaller, weaker inside the paint than ever before. Miami will have a field day breaking through the Boston defense inside the painted area. Shaq is too slow inside. J.O. is obviously not a great consistent big man inside the paint. D. Wade and LeBron James will take advantage of this, 100%.
Granted, we did fine without Perk in like every game this year, but......
Semih/Kristic can’t stop Howard, Bynum, or any other top big man, Green is mediocre, and both O’Neal’s aren’t healthy. Lovely
SHEED PLEASE COME BACK
I agree
With Perk gone, I really want Sheed to come back. But Perk is injury prone and a dud offensively, so Green to me is a better fit
Come Back Sheed!!
by OsirusCeltics on Feb 24, 2011 3:34 PM EST up reply actions
this is pathetically stupid of Ainge
what a fn moron
"what I have learned in 11 years in the sports business is that the dumbest guys in the room are always the media guys." - mark cuban
Dont be surprised to see Perk in a heat uniform next yr!
by farias on Feb 24, 2011 3:28 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Only if they trade Bosh. There is absolutely no way, they can pay him otherwise.
by European NBA fan on Feb 24, 2011 4:35 PM EST up reply actions
Not unless he takes the MLE.
And he’ll clearly be looking for more.
"Phil is obviously a good coach. You don't win that many games without being a damn good coach, ... Remember one thing: He's been very fortunate. He picks his spots. That's all I can say." - Red Auerbach
Indeed
The Celtics offered the Perk like $5.8M, which is around MLE money. Perk said no thanks.
Celtics feel he’s not worth more. It sucks to see, but you know what? Whatever.
Perk will make more than that, easy.
No way he ends up with less than 8M per and that’s probably being conservative.
Did we not just learn last year how much teams will pay for legitimate, veteran bigs?
For all his faults, Perk is a legitimate, physically imposing defensive center that can support almost any team, provided they have other scoring options. He’ll definitely get paid.
"We will take it easy, and walk on down our road at our pace with our focus ahead, and your focus on us." - Warrior Spirit, on what Celtics' Ubuntu is.
I like the deal
The only question is the health of the O’Neals. But I think we’re still fine up front, but I LOVE Green on this team. I think the Cs just got a lot stronger.
Not alone
Just put a hole in my wall.
by Warrior Spirit on Feb 24, 2011 3:42 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
People are overvaluing Perk.
He didn’t wanna take 7 million a year. Celtics weren’t gonna offer more for a purely defensive player, so at least they got something for Perkins.
Jeff Green has potential. Perkins had reached his potential.
Jeff Green is horrible.
Do none of you see that?
Steph Curry and Reggie Williams all day baby!
by GovernorStephCurry on Feb 24, 2011 3:30 PM EST up reply actions
Erden, Baby, and Kristic are all horrible.
Perkins and Shaq were the only capable centers on the team. Now you only have Shaq…great move.
Steph Curry and Reggie Williams all day baby!
by GovernorStephCurry on Feb 24, 2011 3:29 PM EST reply actions
Erden is not horrible
He is a rookie, learning the NBA system. Seriously, did you ever play basketball?
The Other Shoe.....
I’m shocked an will miss Perks “D”; moneywise we’re tied up with our roster;
we do gain two healthy bodies…and with the mirrors we’ve been using to get a team together: Big hit in the “D” but the point was made about “Baby” playing in crunch time;
also says the poor opinion of the Heat, Bulls, and Magic; But Danny always has a second card up his sleeve….I’m waiting for a “Rip” buyout or some other clever acquisition……
Nate wasn't exactly adding a lot of value this year.
And is completely expendable given Delonte’s return and the improved play of late by Wafer and Bradley.
So we are really giving up Perk – admittedly that hurts a ton – for Kristic (decent, not great) and Green (very, very good). Plus the clipper’s 2012 draft pick.
"We will take it easy, and walk on down our road at our pace with our focus ahead, and your focus on us." - Warrior Spirit, on what Celtics' Ubuntu is.
Giving up Perk, and getting away from Nate's contract.
For Jeff Green, who is a MAJOR upgrade at back up SF, and adds a huge scoring punch to pair with Baby in the second unit, and you grab a protected 1st rounder, and a useful back up Center. Assuming Shaq is healthy and able to start, Krstic backing him up, and any minutes at all out of JO, and we’re just fine come play off time with the Center position.
Really, people are so upset because it’s Perk, and I get that. It’s a huge shock, and I have worries about what it does to team chemistry, no doubt. But the deal makes some sense, whether you like it or not.
"Phil is obviously a good coach. You don't win that many games without being a damn good coach, ... Remember one thing: He's been very fortunate. He picks his spots. That's all I can say." - Red Auerbach
I'm gonna miss Perk. He was part of our Big 5
And will miss Nate, Erden, Gody and Marquis. It’s hard not to get attached to our players.
yep
Very much so. That’s why we are fans.
Danny is a fan too. But he also has to be cold and calculating when he is wearing his GM hat.
"We will take it easy, and walk on down our road at our pace with our focus ahead, and your focus on us." - Warrior Spirit, on what Celtics' Ubuntu is.
he didn't want to play in cleveland.
No one wants to play in cleveland.
I love the Lakers and the Clippers. Why? They lost to the Cavs. And the Clippers kicked the Heat's ass!
It seems that people in the Celtics organization
Felt that Perk was not fully healed and will never get back to 100%. It had to be the reason. From shoulder injuries, to knee problems.
Green i think played 81 games last season and is always healthy. A good piece for the future also. Can play the 3 and the 4 which is good for both KG and Pierce
Not to mention OKC was not going to give a contract extension to Green with all their focus and money on Durant and Westbrook
he's a walking injury about to happen at this point
It’s clear he’s been compensating.
Health is a huge part of this deal.
by superluminal on Feb 24, 2011 3:33 PM EST up reply actions
WTF????!!!!!
We waited all season for Perk to come back and now Ainge trades him to OKC???
WTF….WTF….WTF….!!!!!!
Doesn´t matter if it´s a good or a bad trade, long-term or short-term...
we definitely over-paid
WTH?
We didnt want to tradr erden now we waive him?
Danny I get its a stressfull job but you picked a hell of a day to start smoking crack.
I dont brlieve it.
by Warrior Spirit on Feb 24, 2011 3:47 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Traded for a second round pick.
To Cleveland…
It makes no sense. That’s a complete clearance sale. Something else has to be happening here. You don’t unload erden like that just to open a roster spot unless you drastically need that spot. Meaning something is planned for it.
Something else is coming, it has to be.
"Phil is obviously a good coach. You don't win that many games without being a damn good coach, ... Remember one thing: He's been very fortunate. He picks his spots. That's all I can say." - Red Auerbach
And it's only "a future second round pick."
My mind is blown.
This trade will not help OKC, either
What were the thunder thinking? Congrats, you lost two critical members of your rotation for a center who works in a completely different system of play.
I love the Lakers and the Clippers. Why? They lost to the Cavs. And the Clippers kicked the Heat's ass!
Erden and Gody gone too?
For a 2nd round pick? WTF?
We MUST be doing something else too.
by BlackWhiteGreen on Feb 24, 2011 3:34 PM EST reply actions
I don't see how they're going to play tonight
We can barely dress 8 players and that includes 0 centers and only 2 PFs
I agree. I think this puts Miami in the finals
No healthy centers, at least healthy centers that can play the game, means Miami probably has the advantage right now. I don’t understand this trade. Jeff Green really is nothing special and Kristic is a couple steps above being a stiff.
bye bye Erden and Harangody
Danny has to be damn sure that a center is about to be bought out and requires the roster spots.
Perk move is good.
think about it: He’s a FA and been hurt anyways. green is young and healthy.
Semih move makes no sense. I bet we get Parker and another big man now,
i dont care
Perk was a key for #18
May as well just hand Miami a ticket to the finals
I can't recall her saying Liam was stupid
His idea how ever? Kinda dumb, and reactive. Wait for the other shoe to drop. If we traded Semih and Harangody, we have 2 open roster spots to fill. Something else is coming.
Panicking and saying to hand tickets to miami? That’s just stupid. Hold up before you all jump off a damn bridge.
"We are not normal, We are Legends. People will tell their kids about us." - Deon Butler before Ohio State Game 2008.
Not sure what Candy Land world you're from
But outside of “Damn” I haven’t uttered a single swear. Kindergartners say worse things than Idiot, Stupid and Dumb.
And further more, you do realize that there is a massive difference between calling an individual dumb and calling their ideas dumb. For instance. The idea that you would ban someone for the use of the word dumb or stupid IS stupid. You aren’t stupid, the rule is.
I’d expected so much more from a Boston blog. Don’t go over to Overthemonster any time soon, I don’t think your mind will comprehend the words on those pages.
Rogue Nine out.
"We are not normal, We are Legends. People will tell their kids about us." - Deon Butler before Ohio State Game 2008.
now Semih also gone? We have to be scoring a Center ASAP???
"Salmon and Mash Potatoes"
Greg + Tony OSU Class of '04
Everyone needs to calm down
The difference between Perkins and Jeff Green is not going to lose the Celtics the East. Its just not. Danny has done a terrific job thus far, lets see what happens in the next couple of hours before we start screaming for his head. Ok?
1.14.10, the day I went green.
Why?
When people are saying we lost the East, we cant beat the Heat, Dwight Howard is going to crush is etc. Its a little much and calm is in order.
1.14.10, the day I went green.
I'm pretty calm, almost intrigued about the Perk trade.
But Semih for a 2nd rounder I just don’t get even to get rid of Luke.
No
what about this year? I bet something else is in the works.
by Marisa Ingemi on Feb 24, 2011 3:37 PM EST up reply actions
Wow…I never thought I would ever say this but…now we need Sheed. We can’t even hope to win the whole thing with only J.O. and Shaq. Why would we break up the number one team in the East that has proven it can beat the top team in the West. C’mon man!
That guy sucked
I may have been the only person to not like the move when it happened.
by Marisa Ingemi on Feb 24, 2011 3:39 PM EST up reply actions
Sheed
I believe in Sheed… though he may hit the tech limit before the season end with these new NBA rules
by next boston gm on Feb 24, 2011 3:41 PM EST up reply actions
A center
it has to be. Other wise Ainge lost his mind.
by Marisa Ingemi on Feb 24, 2011 3:38 PM EST up reply actions
Something...is...about to happen in a big way.
I just have a feeling.
"Salmon and Mash Potatoes"
Greg + Tony OSU Class of '04
i hope so!
any chance we got varajah?!? no clue how to spell his name.. this fire sale makes no sense unless something huge is coming
by Dr.Greenthumb on Feb 24, 2011 3:39 PM EST up reply actions
Troy Murphy?
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"They said I couldn't be a high school quarterback, they said I couldn't get a D1 scholarship. You're not good enough, you're not skilled enough. They said I couldn't win a heisman. They said I couldn't win a national championship. They said I wouldn't be a first round draft pick. They said I couldn't play in the league. Appreciate that." - Tim Tebow.
More bodies are coming to Boston
Erden & Luke are NOT going just for a 2nd round pick!
I don't understand that.
I really don’t…
"Phil is obviously a good coach. You don't win that many games without being a damn good coach, ... Remember one thing: He's been very fortunate. He picks his spots. That's all I can say." - Red Auerbach
slots just opened...
troy murphy and rip are walkin thru that door!!! make it happen ainge!
by jaimsitecom on Feb 24, 2011 3:38 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Something big is about to go down
something complicated too, is Danny trying to get a superstar of the future? Erden, Perk, Gody and Nate for Green,Nenad and a Second rounder is just nuts
Maybe someone getting bought out?
Here’s hoping Perk will be bought out and be back with the Celtics in 30 days! Wishful thinking…I know.
if a buyout's the case then
maybe that deal was in place all along so Ainge can make these moves, still when all is said and done, is the team better talent wise then before the trade? That’s what Danny is always preaching, upgrading the talent
we need to see how everything shakes out before we give the final grade
at improving your team's chances of losing.
Steph Curry and Reggie Williams all day baby!
by GovernorStephCurry on Feb 24, 2011 3:56 PM EST up reply actions
when did Jeff "I have no position" Green become awesome
I remember his Gtown days and those were probably his best and he was FAR from awesome.
There is no way...
That DA trades Perk and Semih off and hopes we can win a championship with Shaq/JO and starting Kristic!!
"Salmon and Mash Potatoes"
Greg + Tony OSU Class of '04
Jeff Green
I for one think he fits pretty well into this team.
"Salmon and Mash Potatoes"
Greg + Tony OSU Class of '04
interesting from the OKC end
Woj:
Oklahoma City has acquired center Nazr Mohammed from Charlotte for D.J. White and Mo Peterson, source tells Y! Sports.
They added a lot of size today. I think it indicates that even they are skeptical about resigning Kendrick.
That would make me go from search out Danny to punch him in the face, to buying him a beer and a handshake. League may call shenanigans, but I would love it.
by Warrior Spirit on Feb 24, 2011 3:54 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Maybe
but why would OKC give up Green then?
by Marisa Ingemi on Feb 24, 2011 3:57 PM EST up reply actions
He's an expiring contract also.
Did we send them cash to buyout Perk, but only if they sent us Green and took Nate?
"We will take it easy, and walk on down our road at our pace with our focus ahead, and your focus on us." - Warrior Spirit, on what Celtics' Ubuntu is.
Guys
Lets wait til we see the entire picture before we declare anyone a genius or an idiot. There’s obviously a lot going on right now and we’re not getting the whole story.
Conflicted!
As a lifelong Celtic fan, I hate to see Perk go. Green (IMO) is a better back up to Pierce than any of the other guys being discussed leading up to the deadline. As a season ticket holder for the Thunder, I think Perk will provide them with the big man they have been looking for. Don’t care for Kristic in green, as he does not play any D!!
First round pick as well (via twitter)
The worse between Minny and LA, top 10 protected through 2015
this has got to be totally bogus
Why would Danny move the only to centers on the team that have some talent and are physically able to play, the back up PG that’s been healthy all year and the extra big man off the bench for a 2nd round pick, a stiff of a center and an under achieving PF? That makes no sense whatsoever.
it’s killing that me that there’s no official confirmation anywhere yet.!!!!
damn!
@ESPNinsider_
troy Murphy expected to reach a buyout and quickly make a verbal -agreement to join the Miami heat. According to my sources
now that sucks
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"They said I couldn't be a high school quarterback, they said I couldn't get a D1 scholarship. You're not good enough, you're not skilled enough. They said I couldn't win a heisman. They said I couldn't win a national championship. They said I wouldn't be a first round draft pick. They said I couldn't play in the league. Appreciate that." - Tim Tebow.
The Good the Bad and the ugly
Pro
-We got rid of Nate
-We got a backup SF
- we got a possible player for the future
- The Lakers have to deal with Perk BEFORE they get to the finals
Con
- We lost one of the best defensive centers in the game
- We got a big soft white guy
Only more reason to root for OKC in the West they are the only future out there
-
Wait...what?
So apparently that size advantage we had over everyone this year wasn’t worth it? Wasn’t that the point of all the bigs, to have size? There better be another move here, or else we could have just sacrificed banner 18 this year for a possibility of Dwight in 2012….
Clippers First Round pick
Gary Washburn reports that we are getting the Clippers 2012 first rounder…not sure how this is involved.
by ShakersJacobson on Feb 24, 2011 3:41 PM EST reply actions
...blake griffin?
;)
I bet a three team trade involving a center coming to Boston.
by Marisa Ingemi on Feb 24, 2011 3:42 PM EST up reply actions
kaman lol
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"They said I couldn't be a high school quarterback, they said I couldn't get a D1 scholarship. You're not good enough, you're not skilled enough. They said I couldn't win a heisman. They said I couldn't win a national championship. They said I wouldn't be a first round draft pick. They said I couldn't play in the league. Appreciate that." - Tim Tebow.
Why are the people saying Green is good saying that?
Seriously, I am curious, because I know him mainly from the odd game here or there and last year’s playoffs, and to me my impression is a tweener, who doesn’t really excel at any one thing. Please I would like to be told I am way off…
Green = Rodney McCray
"People don't understand, if you can't live the rest of your life off one year in the NBA, you can't live off 21." -- Keon Clark
I've been watching Jeff since he was at Georgetown
and I guess you’re right that he doesn’t excel at any one thing but he is really good at everything. Good shooter, good defender, good handle for a guy his size, great passer. Also he’s a great guy and should fit in well in the locker room
I love Green.
Excited to have him. Tough pill to swallow with Perk though.
"Phil is obviously a good coach. You don't win that many games without being a damn good coach, ... Remember one thing: He's been very fortunate. He picks his spots. That's all I can say." - Red Auerbach
it will be interesting to see
what perkins and ibaka can do to the thunders interior game and if it can take them to the next level.
"Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die."
im gonna be all up on you like a spider monkey!
by remembering9ergods on Feb 24, 2011 4:48 PM EST up reply actions
NOOOOOO
we gave away all our centers?!
by b0unce2theastside on Feb 24, 2011 3:41 PM EST reply actions
Rasheed coming back
rumors that trade with cavs was to clear up roster spots for Rasheed and a potential buy-out guy to join C’s
Interesting
I guess all Doc’s rhetoric that was echoed by so many on this board about how this starting 5 have never lost a playoff series or how Perk’s injury being the reason Boston lost Game 7 to LA doesn’t look as compelling now
I can assure you that we are not done
There is a bigger trade coming.
"Salmon and Mash Potatoes"
Greg + Tony OSU Class of '04
+1000
The only discouraging thing about this game to me was that Boston was without KG and Perk. Having those two guys back would make them so much stronger, that I am not sure we can win against them.
by letsgoblue86 on Feb 24, 2011 3:44 PM EST up reply actions
if we aren't getting a number 1 pick
in the Perkins deal then it is even a bigger hose job than it woudl be otherwise…if that makes any sense.
hats off to Presti. He is flossing his teeth with Danny’s jockstrap.
It's always great
to get a Clippers first rounder, when Blake Griffin is mere moments away from shattering his arm on the rim.
by superluminal on Feb 24, 2011 3:48 PM EST up reply actions
I think that would be a good move
hig round picks are good.
by Marisa Ingemi on Feb 24, 2011 3:49 PM EST up reply actions
It's top 10 protected though, I believe.
And protected through 2016, meaning it’s very possible we don’t get to use that pick for a long time.
"Phil is obviously a good coach. You don't win that many games without being a damn good coach, ... Remember one thing: He's been very fortunate. He picks his spots. That's all I can say." - Red Auerbach
Luke and Semih to the Cavs for Varejao?
I love the Lakers and the Clippers. Why? They lost to the Cavs. And the Clippers kicked the Heat's ass!
highly doubt the caavs let go of the wild thing
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yeah i know
still, i’d like to see my boy Andy play for a winning team again.
I love the Lakers and the Clippers. Why? They lost to the Cavs. And the Clippers kicked the Heat's ass!
No
something much, much bigger.
And hi WaveOcean, I dont know if you remeber me.
by Marisa Ingemi on Feb 24, 2011 3:47 PM EST up reply actions
Hi Marisa!
Sorry, I don’t. How did we meet?
I love the Lakers and the Clippers. Why? They lost to the Cavs. And the Clippers kicked the Heat's ass!
I was bestbostonsports
on the Lakers site in the finals?
by Marisa Ingemi on Feb 24, 2011 3:49 PM EST up reply actions
oh, that was you!
I remember now. How have you been? Outside of our shocking upset of the Lakers, 2011 has been pretty dismal for me.
I love the Lakers and the Clippers. Why? They lost to the Cavs. And the Clippers kicked the Heat's ass!
Most people remember me
as the lacrosse person cause of my tagline.
I’ve been good. Figuring out my emotions right now.
by Marisa Ingemi on Feb 24, 2011 3:52 PM EST up reply actions
I've been trying to figure out my emotions all season
Of all the East title contenders, I’d like to see Boston in the finals more than anyone.
A Lacrosse blog, huh? What’s it like?
I love the Lakers and the Clippers. Why? They lost to the Cavs. And the Clippers kicked the Heat's ass!
It's on SBN fnally
things are going well except for teams folding left and right.
I think something else is coming, so I’m not gonna panic.
by Marisa Ingemi on Feb 24, 2011 3:56 PM EST up reply actions
If there is another move coming, it better be better than this one
But, since the deadline passed 45 minutes ago, I am not so sure anything else is happening
Not in my time zone!
I love the Lakers and the Clippers. Why? They lost to the Cavs. And the Clippers kicked the Heat's ass!
They have to wait for league approval
to announce trades so they could have submitted the paperwork before 3 and it will still take some time to announce.
hope so...
but somebody else reported he verbally agreed to sign with the miami cheats! sucks
by jaimsitecom on Feb 24, 2011 3:49 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Wow, can't believe
that he got the Clippers 2012 pick, Marisa.
That will be very useful this summer.
Green's value is against MIAMI
Perk’s value was against ORLANDO.
Orlando is NOT a threat anymore.
But a lineup of Rondo/Peirce/Allen/Green/KG is frightening. Green is a tall lanky athletic wing that can match up nicely with Lebron, allowing Peirce to focus on offense or simply give Peirce a break. This can only help.
"I'm gonna have to watch the film before I can answer that question"
100 percent agree
Orlando might not make it out of the first round.
by superluminal on Feb 24, 2011 3:52 PM EST up reply actions
Well -- Since Celts are out of the running this year
Where are we all going to hide when Miami or the Lakers or Dallas or San Antonio win it all?
hey
stop trolling, that is a ridicolous, idiotic statement.
by Marisa Ingemi on Feb 24, 2011 3:50 PM EST up reply actions
Does anybody know...
if Perks knee injury was more serious then originally reported???
Which lead the C’s to trade him??
I doubt
we’d get Green if that were the case. I’m thinking it has more to do with impending FA
by Marisa Ingemi on Feb 24, 2011 3:51 PM EST up reply actions
Forsberg posted a video today interviewing Perk
Perk said he might play a game on this trip, so it can’t have been that bad unless he was just BSing.
What in the HELL
Well all the posters here who go by Doc’s line of how ‘this starting five has never lost a playoff series’ don’t look so smart if Danny doesn’t even think Perk is worth keeping for one more title run. Or everyone who cries that not having Perk for Game 7 is why Boston lost the finals.
Still trying to make sense of this - ESPN and everyone is KILLING Boston for this trade. Now the one huge advantage we had over Miami and Orlando is gone makes NO SENSE
So since Danny has given up on this year, what should the fans do?
It must be running 95-5 against this trade. AWFUL.
Just heard that the Clippers pick is protected
Can’t be in the top 10. This deal makes NO SENSE.
Celtics have 8 players for tonight’s game.
Please get a straitjacket on Danny right now. PLEASE stop him from doing anything else.
They gave up this year. He gave up this year. Unreal.
why would he do that
when they probably won;t win after this year? That is not the case at all, stop acting like WEEI commenters.
by Marisa Ingemi on Feb 24, 2011 3:53 PM EST up reply actions
So tell me how this makes us better this year?
You are one of the three or four people who think this is a good deal
Ya -- Danny is going to hope there are some buyout guys to dign
If not — this becomes a horrendous trade. Ainge will be on WEEI at 5.
Has to be.
Wyc doesn’t get involved, never has.
"Phil is obviously a good coach. You don't win that many games without being a damn good coach, ... Remember one thing: He's been very fortunate. He picks his spots. That's all I can say." - Red Auerbach
The team has 13 players on the roster now
Why did they trade two guys for a freaking second round pick? It is clear that Danny did not think the team could win this year.
It's the opposite
I think Danny is showing hubris..either that or with the injuries he thinks he has no choice but to go high risk…
c'mon dude
if this was our playoff roster, then yes. but it’s not over yet.
by scurvmeister on Feb 24, 2011 3:57 PM EST up reply actions
Where is this Clippers pick coming from?
We didn’t get a lottery pick for Semih and Luke did we? That seems ridiculous…
Has anyone ever watched OKC play at Staples?
Jeff Green cannot shoot.
I love the Lakers and the Clippers. Why? They lost to the Cavs. And the Clippers kicked the Heat's ass!
or nate
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I was going to say Green couldn't shoot any better than Perk can, but I thought you guys might take offense to that
I love the Lakers and the Clippers. Why? They lost to the Cavs. And the Clippers kicked the Heat's ass!
?
I love the Lakers and the Clippers. Why? They lost to the Cavs. And the Clippers kicked the Heat's ass!
Perk shoots better than Artest. Lol, probably could shoot better than Fisher too lol.
by Mub33b on Feb 24, 2011 4:22 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Green's not keeping Howard or Bynum
or Gasol (or any other center) out of the paint.
Yes true, but again Marisa you just pass over why Perk if valuable
He is a big center who plays defense. Stop thinking exclusively offensive. Why would the Celts need another scorer when they have the Big 3? Defense wins championships, thats not opinion, its fact.
The starting 5's legacy lives on
Well one good thing is Doc can still say his ideal starting 5 has NEVER lost a playoff series since Perk is gone, that legacy is at least still in tact.
I thought not having Perk was the main reason Boston lost Game 7 to LA according to so many - guess Danny didn’t agree
I need to leave work...
i just cant process this all while working..its too much
stay focused man
no need to loose the job over this, everything will shake out, don’t know how yet
lets go bruins!!!!!
at least they added a guy! i agree that green can help us against teh heat but i thought this team was all about size? while i am very annoyed to lose one of my favorite celtics lets not all go nuts and say we cant win it all without perk, best record in the league without him for mist of the season last i checked and he hasnt played all that great since coming back, still shaq and jo at center seems weak.. maybw danny has a rime achine that will give us the 02 versions of them.. i am sad but still optomistic about the season
All about size?
We just got TALLER. by about a foot.
by KY Celts fan on Feb 24, 2011 4:09 PM EST up reply actions
We lost our Dwight Howard kryptonite
We’ll have to double team him now.
Maybe Miami will grab the #1 seed and you won't have to face Orlando
I love the Lakers and the Clippers. Why? They lost to the Cavs. And the Clippers kicked the Heat's ass!
LOOKS LIKE NO OTHER SHOE
well it looks like no other shoe will drop…..
Danny better hope that Murphy chooses to play here or else…….we just got screwed.
I will admit, if Murphy comes here then the deal was worth it….BUT if he goes to MIA or ORL then we got hosed…plus we are short of healthy BIGS
Why do we need Murphy?
Green will stretch the floor more than Murphy can, and actually has playing time this season.
If we add anyone to the team this season, which I don’t think we need, it’ll be a SG. Maybe Rip if he gets bought out.
by KY Celts fan on Feb 24, 2011 4:11 PM EST up reply actions
god WEEI is terrible
trade deadline day and they have Steve DeOssie on. And they wonder why 98.5 is killing them in the ratings.
Celtics are trying to get Troy Murphy
And another wing
And if Sheed comes back…..that would be awesome
Grizzlies get Battier
for Hasheem Thabeet?!?!?! and first rounder.
dont like this
it may be the right move. Perk could get plagued with injuries and we’d never see a return like jeff green. But he was our center, and a pretty damn good one.
YEEEEEEEEAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH!
WE GOT LUKE AND SEMIH!
THANK YOU BOSTON! THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU
(kisses celtic parquet)
http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2011/2/24/2013221/celtics-trade-luke-harangody-semih-erden-cavaliers
I love the Lakers and the Clippers. Why? They lost to the Cavs. And the Clippers kicked the Heat's ass!
LOOK OUT LA!
Clippers, that is
I love the Lakers and the Clippers. Why? They lost to the Cavs. And the Clippers kicked the Heat's ass!
Bye Marquis
Ken Berger:
Celtics have agreed to send Marquis Daniels to Sacramento for cash, source says.
I’m sure they’ll just sign him again in the offseason.
What? They now have 12 guys on the roster
What on earth is going on here? It is like a huge selloff. Is Wyc in financial trouble or something?
So that makes three open roster spots, now...
Murphy + Sheed + Butler (although we need a PG, too)
All the negativity in this town sucks. It sucks, and it stinks, and it sucks. - Rick Pitino
No Sheed
Murphy, maybe, which would be cool.
by Marisa Ingemi on Feb 24, 2011 4:09 PM EST up reply actions
exactly
except i’m still perplexed about the ’Gody & Erden deal.
We have 3 roster spots to fill now. Murphy? Sheed? Butler? Who?
Perk comes back in a buyout? Did we send cash to OKC for that?
WHAAAAT????
"We will take it easy, and walk on down our road at our pace with our focus ahead, and your focus on us." - Warrior Spirit, on what Celtics' Ubuntu is.
From a OKC blog, “Green’s career may have reached a plateau and he’ll probably be looking to re-sign for more than the Thunder wants in the offseason, but he is still an athletic, streaky scorer and a key reason why Oklahoma City has such good chemistry.”
He is also the captain of the squad. I’m not sure what our answer is at the center position but let’s not cry murder until we go through the buyout market.
All this for Troy Murphy?
If Rasheed returns I’m done watching the Celtics.
I still don’t see how we can survive in the playoffs at center with the roster we have now.
and now
we have ray allen, and we have the player we used to get ray allen.
Celtics agree to send Kevin Garnet to Minnesota
for Darko and a second round pick
by LoveForTheGame on Feb 24, 2011 4:07 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
+1
hahahahaahahah, you really made me laugh out loud
by Master_Shake on Feb 24, 2011 4:08 PM EST up reply actions
ROFL....
thanks man for making me laugh…I needed that.
by KubuliCeltic on Feb 24, 2011 4:43 PM EST up reply actions
WOW
Boston must have taken a pretty handsome bribe from Miami, traded away their chance to win anything this year.
Make a trade
Get Scalabrine and we will be back to being Title Favorites.
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"They said I couldn't be a high school quarterback, they said I couldn't get a D1 scholarship. You're not good enough, you're not skilled enough. They said I couldn't win a heisman. They said I couldn't win a national championship. They said I wouldn't be a first round draft pick. They said I couldn't play in the league. Appreciate that." - Tim Tebow.
I hate not knowing what the heck is going on here?
with 3 roster spots open, who else is coming in? Daniels looks likely to get bought out by SAC, we could re-sign. do we do that? if he can’t play this year, why would we? something else has gotta be in the works.
I NEED TO KNOW!!!!!!!
Where’s all those Celtic reporters with inside info when you need them?
- JoeB
Good move we got the best player
in the trades. Perkins while good defensively is liability on offense.
Thanks DA
"Do you know that nonbelievers create the most positive energy?" Davis said
We all love Perk, but it's true...
he has been taking a good half hour to gather himself before each and every layup. I was at the Warriors game, and it was a block party every time he touched it. He could be the most blockable big man in the game.
Jesus Shuttlesworth: I hate my name. What kind of name is Jesus anyway?
Jake Shuttlesworth: It's biblical.
Jesus Shuttlesworth: Yeah, no kidding.
by jakeshuttlesworth on Feb 24, 2011 4:41 PM EST up reply actions
Seriously -- if there is no other shoe. Miami is now the favorite
And Chicago may be second
No Perkins was not the rest we were #1 in the East.
He didn’t play the first half of the year, don’t forget, where the Celtics just happened to go on a 14 game win streak, and have held the best record in the east all year.
It puts more pressure on the Oneals getting healthy, and staying healthy in the playoffs. So there’s a fair amount of risk there, no doubt. But if that happens, they are every bit as much in the running as they were before.
"Phil is obviously a good coach. You don't win that many games without being a damn good coach, ... Remember one thing: He's been very fortunate. He picks his spots. That's all I can say." - Red Auerbach
Yep
we were 33-10 without Perk this year.
Of course we do need SOMEBODY to suite up at center.
And right at the moment I have no idea who that will be tonight ….
"We will take it easy, and walk on down our road at our pace with our focus ahead, and your focus on us." - Warrior Spirit, on what Celtics' Ubuntu is.
Danny's not THAT dumb
He obviously knows who he wants to get in the buyout market. Let’s just hope he gets the players he wants. We do have 3 roster spots available with Quis leaving. We ought to find key players for the playoff run.
Oh the irony...
“No, I might play in one of these games,” said Perkins. Asked if he was serious, he added emphatically, “Yeah, I’m a Celtic, man.”
http://espn.go.com/blog/boston/celtics/post/_/id/4681038/amidst-deadline-chaos-cs-maintain-focus
didn't perk take the hometown discount on his last deal?
got to feel bad for him, he took less to play here because he was going to be in his prime as a free agent and then he goes down against LA and i doubt he will get the $$$ he wants now
he didnt want the new discount now he's in ok
"Do you know that nonbelievers create the most positive energy?" Davis said
Perk is still going to make his money.
He’s a free agent. He’s a proven, championship quality Center. He’ll be in high demand this summer.
He’ll get paid big money, whether by OKC or whomever (even possibly BOS).
"We will take it easy, and walk on down our road at our pace with our focus ahead, and your focus on us." - Warrior Spirit, on what Celtics' Ubuntu is.
murphy hasnt officially decided where to go
http://twitter.com/KBerg_CBS/statuses/40880215995449344
3 roster spots?!
Ugh no we have plenty of centers
"Do you know that nonbelievers create the most positive energy?" Davis said
ugh yeah if you believe they won't be back
for the playoffs which is your perogative.
"Do you know that nonbelievers create the most positive energy?" Davis said
What makes you think JO will ever be healthy?
What makes you think Shaq can play more than 5 games without being hurt again?
I'm not a pessimistic person without facts.
"Do you know that nonbelievers create the most positive energy?" Davis said
This all goes back to the "day on, day off" scenario
Older players (as we have seen in the past) hold up much better in the playoffs since there is at least one day off in between games.
so...
now it appears to essentially be Perk, Erden, Nate, Luke for Green, Krstic, Murphy, the Clippers pick and a mystery wing man. Danny must have a solid pickup ready to go with that wingman. If that pans out, this might not be a bad deal.
The thought he might be loading up for a S&T for Dwight later on may make this worth it if they win the title this year and pull off that deal too.
That seems to be the case.
might not be a bad deal? lol
"Do you know that nonbelievers create the most positive energy?" Davis said
Rondo and Perk
“The #Celtics player I worry most about is Rondo. Him and Perk are like brothers. Reminds me of how Rip Hamilton was when Billups got traded from Detroit unexpectedly. We’ve seen how that played out.”
-Sherrod Blakely
Any chance Perk will be bought out? OKC have acquired Nazr Mohammad too…wishful thinking.
in that scenario
id think perkins is hamilton.
Rondo's a big boy he'll be fine.
"Do you know that nonbelievers create the most positive energy?" Davis said
So they are sacrificing a couple of games on this trip
But, if they don’t sign a couple of really good buyout guys, this deal is a disaster for the rest of this year
No I dont see that I expect them to win tonight
rather easily.
"Do you know that nonbelievers create the most positive energy?" Davis said
I am happy with this trade. Green is a very good player and very versatile. Yes, we need a big man or two, but if we get those I think we are in a good spot.
I am hoping we can add both Sheed and Murphy, but I don’t see Sheed as wanting to come back.
Green is an incredible useful SF right now.
He adds a huge scoring punch, with the versatility to play stretches at the 4 as well, and spread the floor.
"Phil is obviously a good coach. You don't win that many games without being a damn good coach, ... Remember one thing: He's been very fortunate. He picks his spots. That's all I can say." - Red Auerbach
Chemistry
that’s what i’m mostly worried about. the bench is in pieces, but the starting 5 just got messed with too. yeah Shaq meshed well with the other 4, but he’s hurt and who knows when he comes back or if he goes down again (he’s 100 yrs old!!).
- JoeB
semih and harrangody
were both popular with the players on this team and full of energy and potential.
I dunno what dannys thinking, but it better be good.
people need to relax...murphy is going to sign with boston as well as another wing...
by celticinorlando on Feb 24, 2011 4:18 PM EST reply actions
being reported by several that he wants to be in boston and the moves made make it very likely
by celticinorlando on Feb 24, 2011 4:20 PM EST up reply actions
check out chris mannix twitter also blakely said the same
by celticinorlando on Feb 24, 2011 4:26 PM EST up reply actions
I thought Mannix said we were "co-favorites"...
… with Miami?
I assume he’ll end up here, though, because all the space clearing doesn’t make much sense otherwise.
All the negativity in this town sucks. It sucks, and it stinks, and it sucks. - Rick Pitino
isn't that what you someone should say to you as well?
"Do you know that nonbelievers create the most positive energy?" Davis said
It’s not just “a big man or two”…Perkins is one of the best defenders against centers in the league. We had a big advantage over Orlando and LA…now, not so much.
orlando is not an issue. and i dont think the lakers get through the west
by celticinorlando on Feb 24, 2011 4:19 PM EST up reply actions
How is Orlando not an issue? If things stay the same we will meet them in the playoffs. As for the Lakers, I don’t see how anyone can count them out yet.
Even against the Heat we’ve lost a clear advantage over their team. Chigaco is the only team that isn’t really effected by this.
have you listened to Doc? when they play orlando they could careless how many points howard scores...you beat
orlando by shutting down the rest of the team..which boston can and will do…and really…this trade helps them vs the heat..green is a big F that can defend james…
by celticinorlando on Feb 24, 2011 4:25 PM EST up reply actions
Ken Berger is tweeting that Marquis
was sent to Sacramento for cash, Celtics cleared out 3 roster spots in total, buyouts are coming
Rondo tweeting that he’s sad to see Perk and Nate go and wishes them well
Rondo appears to be tougher than Sherrod thinks.
"Do you know that nonbelievers create the most positive energy?" Davis said
Um... not usually.
But if healthy, Shaq & JO both have played well against Howard.
"We will take it easy, and walk on down our road at our pace with our focus ahead, and your focus on us." - Warrior Spirit, on what Celtics' Ubuntu is.
As you’d expect, Celtics vets are livid over trade of Kendrick Perkins, sources say. He’s the tough guy, enforcer. But BOS can’t pay him.
at least we’re not the only ones who don’t get it
I bet they aren't as upset as whoever
posted that.
"Do you know that nonbelievers create the most positive energy?" Davis said
I don't think he would be
"Do you know that nonbelievers create the most positive energy?" Davis said
isnt perkins rondos best friend?
hope that doesnt piss rondo off
"Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die."
im gonna be all up on you like a spider monkey!
by remembering9ergods on Feb 24, 2011 4:20 PM EST reply actions
Wojo on EEI right now -- says Celts would never be able to pay Perk anyway
So I guess Danny did the best he could, but I still think that any hopes of 18 this year are done
I still dont understand the logic
Did everyone think the Celts would contend for 2,3 or 4 more years? I didnt. The window is only open as long as Ray, KG and Paul stay. Win now, worry about the future in 2012.
Lol at giving up on the title
Hand in your Celtics fan card and go jump on the heat bandwagon.
We don’t need bandwagon fans like you anyway.
Adrian Wojarnaski (sp?) pretty much just said the same thing about this year
Danny weakened the team this year to be better in the future
It was between resigning Perk or Baby as I saw it
I guess Danny made his decision there already
What chemistry?!?
Perk missed most of the season, and now he is a shell of his former self. And he just got hurt again. He isn’t in game shape, and might not be all season.
We’ll be fine. You guys that are acting like fools are going to feel really stupid when Boston is just as good, or better, after this trade.
Not with a guy who's been there 5 years and won a championship with you.
Perk didn’t need to play with the team to have chemistry, it’s been building for years.
"Phil is obviously a good coach. You don't win that many games without being a damn good coach, ... Remember one thing: He's been very fortunate. He picks his spots. That's all I can say." - Red Auerbach
plus he's been with the team all year
on the bench at every game.
Still I don’t think it was a bad trade … pending what we do with these three open roster spots.
"We will take it easy, and walk on down our road at our pace with our focus ahead, and your focus on us." - Warrior Spirit, on what Celtics' Ubuntu is.
The issue is that right now we have no one dependable at the center position
Perk was the best we had, this current injury is nothing. Aside from Sheed (kill me now please) I haven’t heard any rumors of big men coming to the Celtics, what is the plan Danny?
have to agree. this deal works for Boston just fine. they had erden in starting lineup and still won games just fine
The real mystery isn't the Perk trade.
Its now the Erden+Gody for a 2nd round pick trade!
Because now the don’t have Erden at center, at least as of tonight.
"We will take it easy, and walk on down our road at our pace with our focus ahead, and your focus on us." - Warrior Spirit, on what Celtics' Ubuntu is.
Wojo also just said there is no way JO has any impact this year
Yay — A 100-year-old Shaq and someone who really is not ready to be in the NBA as two of our three centers. Awesome
I posted something similar early today
Perkins lack of any offensive game is a killer.
"Do you know that nonbelievers create the most positive energy?" Davis said
baby can score
but perkins is a great defensive player that we really need come playoff time
yeah hes good
but hes not the presence of perk
Wojo -- Celts veterans upset
And he basically just said that AInge made them weaker this year, because he wanted to be a better team in the future. UGH
feel like crying out loud!
more than losing perk, its just the shakeup and what that will do to the chemistry of the team that i’m concerned about.
perk = toughness and he brought it every game he played in. he was so perfect for this team. thanks perk for all of that! very happy that i went to the gsw game and watched the 5 that brought #17 home play together one last time.
This hurts
But our defense is just as good without him. We need improved offense, and we got that with Green.
From a fan perspective, I hate it, because I love Perk. But long run, I think Ainge did very well.
+1
I agree 100%. Once the shock is over we made out pretty well.
I don't even get the shock
"Do you know that nonbelievers create the most positive energy?" Davis said
Hope so...
Can only see $$$ and Perkins liability in fourth quarter reasons as justification, though. Not enough for me right now.
I really hope that something happens like the failed Tyson Chandler trade a couple years ago and Perk gets sent back to us
otherwise Danny basically alienated the locker room and all I can hope for now is…
SHEED
MURPHY
HOWARD 2012
He definitely alienated the locker room
Veterans are not too happy according to Wojarnowski (sp?)
You should just stop talking.
It is better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than to open it and remove all doubt.
Who made you king of this blog?
In fact, I can’t even remember seeing your name here before. Why am I being stupid. It is what Wojo just said on WEEI and I am repeating it.
Once again, if Adrain knew anything of real value about Basketball
He wouldn’t be a journalist. He would be involved with it in some form.
That's a hilariously short-sighted statement
Journalists can’t be good at their jobs? What a concept!
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.
Why would
a gm give up on the season? We have to be reasonable here, its not like this is the Kings.
Are they weaker this year?
We’ll see. But right now, I don’t think so.
Is the deadline extended?
Thought it was 3 p.m. every time. Certainly we would know more by now.
Seriously...
I’m going nuts!! Hard to digest all this with no clear view of the final roster composition.
SAD to see Perk Go.
Went from 4 to 2 centers and keeping the most oldest and most injured ones.
DANNY: I HOPE you have everything well cooked before pulling the triger like if this was the wild wild west.
Teamwork...
Defense...
Ubuntu...
The Boston Celtics
The vets
will get over it. It’s been an hour, and of course they will fume. But they also want to win, and by the time they get back to Boston, they will have adjusted.
It's about Miami
Based on Orlando’s recent play, maby Dany doesn’t fear their new mix. But without a good backup for Pierce, I think LeBron has the ability to wear us down in a 7-game series. And Miami has no big who we need to worry about. So, it makes sense to fortify ourselves against the biggest threat. Now, what it means in the finals is a different story.
I'm trying to wrap my mind around all this.
Still, reading this thread is like listening to a prolonged death rattle.
we got the best player in both trades
and there are some boyouts coming.
"Do you know that nonbelievers create the most positive energy?" Davis said
boston has won 41 games with 4 different guys playing center. i think chemistry will be fine.
by celticinorlando on Feb 24, 2011 4:29 PM EST reply actions
Agreed I can only read so much
pessimism.
"Do you know that nonbelievers create the most positive energy?" Davis said
I hope the 7-10 people here who like the trade are right
Because right now it is running 90-10 against
that's 90 of your posts to 10 of mine.
"Do you know that nonbelievers create the most positive energy?" Davis said
ok, but two of those centers are injured and 2 are now gone
which leaves you win none. Not much chemistry with no center.
Lot of new players
to try to learn a defense-first system. My biggest concern, as it has been for a while, is defensive rebounds. If we get Murphy, this makes a lot more sense. You can’t criticize Danny for standing pat and he found a legit person to spell PP.
by thereallargejames on Feb 24, 2011 4:29 PM EST reply actions
If Rasheed comes back I might actually throw up in my mouth
Jeff Green is an above average guy, yes, but who says the Celts are going to be able to sign him mopving forward. Kristic is not a stiff, but he is an average center at best. The depth at center is gone. Two constantly injured guys, one rookie not ready to play and Nenad Kristic. I don’t get how people think this trade makes the Celts stronger.
So you are already worried about resigning Jeff Green
how about waiting to see how he plays first..
"Do you know that nonbelievers create the most positive energy?" Davis said
Not sure it makes them stronger
but I don’t think it makes them worse. I love Perk, but his defensive impact is probably overrated (as Nate Silver showed recently), and we picked up a great backup 3-4 in Green. It’s not a step back.
NEWS FLASH
Cant guard Dwight Howard when you’re always injured and never 100%
Danny was smart, this is a good trade!
This perfectly describes the centers we have left
Oh and Krstic, he’ll lock down Dwight for sure
troy murphy comes in and fills a role at C...they sign another wing..title 18..as well as prepping for the future
by celticinorlando on Feb 24, 2011 4:31 PM EST reply actions
Why do you assume he's coming here?
I haven’t seen anything to indicate that over Orlando/Miami
http://twitter.com/ChrisMannixSI
go down mid page
by celticinorlando on Feb 24, 2011 4:41 PM EST up reply actions
Well I hope you're right
But I’d like to see more from legit sources before getting my hopes up
Our centers are asked to set pciks and rebound defensive boards
Also, I think this says that the Cs will try to re-sign Baby in the summer.
by thereallargejames on Feb 24, 2011 4:31 PM EST reply actions
Exactly.
I don’t care if we don’t get a center who can defend like Perk. If we get a guy who can clean up on the glass we are in great shape. Rebounding is by far our biggest weakness.
So your saying Kristric should be able to set a pick
and maybe even catch a wide open assist/dunk?
"Do you know that nonbelievers create the most positive energy?" Davis said
where did you come up with him not setting picks?
he’s 7 ft he can’t stand in someones way.
vinnie please step off the ledge.
"Do you know that nonbelievers create the most positive energy?" Davis said
right but he can set picks since to set
a pick all you have to do is stand.
"Do you know that nonbelievers create the most positive energy?" Davis said
Big difference between standing there and making the guy who's trying to get around you pay for it
As Perkins does, although to be fair Krstic is a good pick-and-pop guy.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.
what do you mean he doesn't rebound?
He’s not the rebounder that Perk was, but he’s not terrible. He’s roughly a 17% DRB% rebounder – good for just over 7 rebounds per 36 minutes. That’s not in Perk’s class (24% DRB%), but its not terrible by any stretch. Its sorta average for a center.
"We will take it easy, and walk on down our road at our pace with our focus ahead, and your focus on us." - Warrior Spirit, on what Celtics' Ubuntu is.
Maybe we are making room for a D-League call-up?
A certain ’Toine in Idaho?!?!?! LMAO ….. just kidding
haha. when things get out of control in celtics nation. toine can't be ignored....
Teamwork...
Defense...
Ubuntu...
The Boston Celtics
Sheed & 'Toine!
That’ll set the blog-fires blazing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LOL
"We will take it easy, and walk on down our road at our pace with our focus ahead, and your focus on us." - Warrior Spirit, on what Celtics' Ubuntu is.
I'll jump off a bridge.
"Phil is obviously a good coach. You don't win that many games without being a damn good coach, ... Remember one thing: He's been very fortunate. He picks his spots. That's all I can say." - Red Auerbach
that ain't happening bro
he’s nice young Center who will do well in OK.. as long he can stay healthy
"Do you know that nonbelievers create the most positive energy?" Davis said
Not happening
Thunder want him. The whole league wants him, and now they can pay him more than anyone. Great move on their part. I think they contend with the Lakers now.
Hopefully there are some signings of buyout guys
If not, the team goes the rest of the year with 12 players. And, they likely sacrifice at least one or two games on this trip, but that would be the least of the team’s problems if they sign no one else worth anything. I can’t wait to hear Danny’s doubletalk at 5 on WEEI.
tonight might be rough..going to be funny to see how they play with 8 guys
by celticinorlando on Feb 24, 2011 4:34 PM EST reply actions
I won't be in teh game thread tonight
Maybe Avery Bradley can start at center
haha
maybe then he would at least get some playing time
The only discouraging thing about this game to me was that Boston was without KG and Perk. Having those two guys back would make them so much stronger, that I am not sure we can win against them.
by letsgoblue86 on Feb 24, 2011 5:44 PM EST up reply actions
As bad as the Perk trade is (or seems)
I think the Luke and Semih trade was even worse. I mean, they’re not great players or anything, but surely they’re worth more than a friggin’ 2nd round pick! We just went from having great depth at the 5, to having almost no depth at all. SMH.
you don't think DA knows this and
cleared room for a reason? c’mon use some critical thinking here and relax.
"Do you know that nonbelievers create the most positive energy?" Davis said
Yeah, Danny clearly traded away Erden, Harangody and Daniels
With no plans to replace him. He just wanted the 3 roster spots for nothing.
yeah the perk trade didnt bug me too much
but luke and semih are young sparks who work well with the team.
Guess we’l have to see the rest of details.
Danny must have something up his sleeve....
to bolster the 5 position Murphy maybe and possibly Rasheed ?
yeah, there just can be no way we just cleared up 3 roster spots
without some sort of plan to fill at least one or two of them.
"We will take it easy, and walk on down our road at our pace with our focus ahead, and your focus on us." - Warrior Spirit, on what Celtics' Ubuntu is.
I thought
it was being reported that they were traded for a second round pick and then it was later reported they were also going to get the Clippers 1st round pick. If that 2nd round pick is Clevelands then it’s more like a late first also.
The Clippers pick (2012 1st) came via OKC in the Perk trade.
It is protected, though – so when we get to use it depends on the Clipper’s ultimate draft position each year.
"We will take it easy, and walk on down our road at our pace with our focus ahead, and your focus on us." - Warrior Spirit, on what Celtics' Ubuntu is.
Can't or Won't?
I don’t see how you one means anything about the other.
"Do you know that nonbelievers create the most positive energy?" Davis said
Yeah, it's kind of hard to pay a defensive center (although great)
$10,000,000 a year especially when he has a bad injury history. Much easier to play a versatile wing who scores and rebounds a little who is younger and healthier.
i gotta think ainge feels confident in shaq/JO to return before trading Perk...also o expect he hs had his buyout targets lined up
the luke erden was to clear roster space
by celticinorlando on Feb 24, 2011 4:35 PM EST reply actions
I'm optimistic
kinda excited about Jeff Green.
happy that Avery Bradley survived today.
kinda excited to see how the roster plays out.
Green is a solid pick up....
he is the long, athletic small forward that I have been hoping the last few years for the C’s to acquire who can help Pierce defend long strong oppossing small forwards like Lebron etc.
Its also gravy he can spot duty at the power forward postion.
Losing Perk though is the downer since he offered them a strong low post defense presence.
Kristic does have size but he does not have the defensive skills that Perk has, though he is a better offensive player.
I am just hoping with the open roster spots Danny can add another center with size who can defend larger opposing power centers as insurance especially with all the health questions surrounding Shaq and J.O.
Im usually very negative about everything
But I have a feeling things will turn out fine. Ainge is not done, and I think the team will be fine. SO HAPPY to see Erden go.
So we now have
C: Shaq/Krstic/JO
PF: KG/Baby
SF: Pierce/Green
SG: Allen/Wafer
PG: Rondo/West/Bradley
Plus 3 open roster spots. I am excited about these buyouts.
Yeah -- Sheed would be great
He is probably only 50 pounds overweight right now. Looking forward to that. Thank God Ainge has said Sheed won’t be back.
Boy I wish there was a way to ignore posts for certain posters on here
You would be at the top of the my and I am sure many peoples ignore lists on here.
What does that have to do with anything Celtics related?
So BC sports save for hockey, suck right now? It happens to ever team in the history of sports, even the most dominant like the Celtics.
But continue to act like and idiot and fool around here. You are making yourself look like a real winner!
Plus clippers first rounder
Add Murphy and a wing (Butler or Kapono maybe) and we have a damn good roster, and are better suited for the future
I know about the first, I wasn't evaluating the trade (although I think it was a good one)
Just trying to get it straight who we have on the roster now.
I'm curious as to why
He wasn’t that bad, and was playing with a bad wing the entire year
Top ten protected, I believe...
… but yeah, same difference.
All the negativity in this town sucks. It sucks, and it stinks, and it sucks. - Rick Pitino
Long-term investment or trade chip
A Clippers first-rounder is always a great asset
Why are we so worried about him?
His team sucks. This was a reaction to the Heat.
"We are not normal, We are Legends. People will tell their kids about us." - Deon Butler before Ohio State Game 2008.
You can give it whatever seal you want.
Some of us like the trade and think we will be better off once we sign some of the people who were bought out.
I'm just saying...
It’s a good day to be Dwight Howard because he no longer has to worry about…
KRYPTONATE!!
:P
we have no healthy centers for the denver game
and only 8 guys available. gonna be a fun game to watch….ugh
"Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die."
im gonna be all up on you like a spider monkey!
by remembering9ergods on Feb 24, 2011 4:40 PM EST reply actions
Assuming BBD starts at C
then we have … no backups at PF & C ??
BBD & KG to play 48 minutes each tonight?
"We will take it easy, and walk on down our road at our pace with our focus ahead, and your focus on us." - Warrior Spirit, on what Celtics' Ubuntu is.
Pierce will see some time at the 4 tonight.
We’ll definitely be seeing a lot of small ball.
Troy Murphy is walking through that door
And Jeff Green is no slouch, people. Very versatile, can play the three or the four.
Look at it this way, we have essentially acquired Ray Allen now for Wally Szczerbiak!
*cough* *cough* Ah hem ...
I believe his knickname is …. “Curly”.
You now have permission to do with that what you will ….
"We will take it easy, and walk on down our road at our pace with our focus ahead, and your focus on us." - Warrior Spirit, on what Celtics' Ubuntu is.
a pretty big shakeup
for a team with the best record in the conference.
What we need now
is for that other shoe to drop and get a new guy at the 5, as well as for Troy Murphy to sign with Boston and not Miami. If both those things happen, then this series of trades will be a success.
Still sucks to see Perk go, though.
if we dont get troy murphy
this makes noooooo sense at all.
Basically, Boston has bailed on a centerpiece of their championship title contention, along with a talented backup point guard for an inconsistent, non-rebounding three-point shooting, stretch four and a very stiff center with size.
This “analysis” is so pathetic.
First, you would think that “centerpiece” of the championship title contention are Pierce, Allen, and Garnett.
Second, you would think that “inconsistent” and “three-point shooting” would apply to Robinson, and “talented” to Green, not the other way round.
Way to spin it, CBS.
Did Vinnie wright that?
Perkins is the centerpiece lol
"Do you know that nonbelievers create the most positive energy?" Davis said
write (nice spelling bro)
"Do you know that nonbelievers create the most positive energy?" Davis said
the word is "write"
My guess is the posts here are running 85-15 against the trade. I hope you guys are right
That's pretty celtic fans in general.
"Do you know that nonbelievers create the most positive energy?" Davis said
That's fans everywhere. Even in LA the
talk show hosts think this is a bad trade for the Celtics. Of course they are now picking Miami out of the east -before they all (except for one knucklehead) chose the Celtics.
Well, we all know how clever and accurate and correct
all those sports mediots are!
My take: If Shaq is healthy for the playoff run, we still make it to the finals.
If so, we’ll have made it to the finals AND Danny will have grabbed a young, very talented SF AND a decent backup Center AND Clippers’ 2012 1st round pick (albeit protected). I.E. – things that will really help down the road.
Which would make him look like GM of The Year, easy.
"We will take it easy, and walk on down our road at our pace with our focus ahead, and your focus on us." - Warrior Spirit, on what Celtics' Ubuntu is.
If Shaq is healthy and plays starter minutes,
even if we finish as the three seed we will make it to the finals. But, that’s a big supposition.
And besides, I was just mentioning that fans everywhere think this trade makes no sense. Not just Celtic fans.
Whoops, meant Except for the three
Green fans who keep posting.
as bad as that is
theres no way around the fact we traded some serious pieces of our playoff chemistry.
+1
I’m Ok with the Perkins trade because we got back Jeff Green.
Green was out of place in OKC with the rise of Westbrook as an offensive #2 and Ibaka as a defensive minded 3/4. Green will do very well playing along side Rondo, who is a pass first point guard. Westbrook is a great passer, but he is no ton Rondo’s level as a distributor.
Losing Perkins hurts, but we got a big in return to fill the void, and picking up Green is a HUGE plus. Loosing Nate does not hurt at all because West is getting healthy and can play the point, and Wafer is proving to be an adequate sub at the 2.
I’m more peeved about losing Erden for a second rounder than swapping Perk/Robinson for Nestric/Green.
"I'm gonna have to watch the film before I can answer that question"
I just hated seeing Erden be traded away ....
and seeing him go for just a 2nd round pick makes it even harder to accept.
Yeah - I'm still trying to wrap my mind around the second deal.
The Perk deal, as much as I hate losing him, makes a lot of sense.
I’ll need to see the other shoe before the Erden/Gody deal does.
"We will take it easy, and walk on down our road at our pace with our focus ahead, and your focus on us." - Warrior Spirit, on what Celtics' Ubuntu is.
ARE YOU FORGETING
the big 4 and how they played without perk for half the season and how they beat most teams without perk i like the deal i hope perk comes back
Green is a better 3 than a 4.
I don’t understand why he’s being pegged a PF. Just because OKC was using him out of position doesn’t mean it was right…
"Phil is obviously a good coach. You don't win that many games without being a damn good coach, ... Remember one thing: He's been very fortunate. He picks his spots. That's all I can say." - Red Auerbach
I tend to agree with that statement
Jeff Green is not that good and most who like the deal harp on two issues. 1) Perk is not offensive, which is true but he plays great low post D and you cannot win championships without that, and 2) his cost. Which means nothing if they dont win THIS year.
So yeah I agree.
I can't believe this crap...
One of the things that I respected about the Celtics the most was the way they played like a family… you know, little brother’s going to mess up now and then, but come on Danny! What a JOKE! I don’t know if I can take this… Honestly, I think this is the end of Banner 18. No defensive stopper in the paint (not one with LEGS anyway). How do we replace perk? Nobody plays that position with his kind of heart…
"The celtics were a way of life. A group of people so diverse you cannot imagine; working together, day in and day out for a common goal. What was necessary was ten players, two baskets, thirteen thousand people and one basketball. We would decide what was done with that one basketball." ~ Bill Russell
that worked out really well in the 90s
its a business. you get too attached to players, you suffer. we held on to the big 3 too long, and we basically were not a real contender for an entire decade. i’m not crazy about trading perkins, but i realize we did get some good stuff in return. and if danny was pretty certain we were losing perk in the offseason, anyway (which actually seemed likely – i bet OKC would have thrown a big deal his way), then we got a lot in return.
by guy incognito on Feb 24, 2011 4:50 PM EST up reply actions
That is an unfair comparison
how good would the Celts have been in the 90s with Len Bias and Reggie? Pretty effing good.
very true.
"We will take it easy, and walk on down our road at our pace with our focus ahead, and your focus on us." - Warrior Spirit, on what Celtics' Ubuntu is.
I agree 100 percent with Chris Mannix
ChrisMannixSI Chris Mannix
It’s understandable if Danny Ainge wants to start thinking about the future. But you can’t help but feel he detonated the present.
It's all a miscommunication
Danny must have went into cardiac arrest while he was on the phone with the thunderand screamed for perkins to bring his medicine, that’s why the thunder think that they’re getting perkins.
"The celtics were a way of life. A group of people so diverse you cannot imagine; working together, day in and day out for a common goal. What was necessary was ten players, two baskets, thirteen thousand people and one basketball. We would decide what was done with that one basketball." ~ Bill Russell
this move was all about getting offense out of the bench...boston will be fine
by celticinorlando on Feb 24, 2011 4:46 PM EST reply actions
Uh huh. Don't ever break up team chemistry like that...
We’ll see. If shaq and JO don’t come back, then you’re going to wish they hadn’t made this move, and you can pretty much say goodbye to HC advantage; It’s gone for sure now.
"The celtics were a way of life. A group of people so diverse you cannot imagine; working together, day in and day out for a common goal. What was necessary was ten players, two baskets, thirteen thousand people and one basketball. We would decide what was done with that one basketball." ~ Bill Russell
Team Chemistry doesn't win you titles.
If that was the case we would have won both in 2009 and 2010.
No chemistry when you're missing players
I think it’s fair to presume that the synergy within a team will decrease when they get injured…
"The celtics were a way of life. A group of people so diverse you cannot imagine; working together, day in and day out for a common goal. What was necessary was ten players, two baskets, thirteen thousand people and one basketball. We would decide what was done with that one basketball." ~ Bill Russell
You mean like they were all this year
Therefore now allowing them to build the chemistry we need right?
Really Perkins ugh
wind up perkins?
"Do you know that nonbelievers create the most positive energy?" Davis said
give me a break...team won 41 games...how many wins was perk a part of this season?
by celticinorlando on Feb 24, 2011 4:49 PM EST up reply actions
obviously not.
the core has not changed. We hardly had perk anyway.
If Danny was clearing a roster spot to sign Troy Murphy
As everyone seems to think, what was the point of trading Semih and Luke for a second round pick? The Marquis deal cleared the spot necessary, why trade away another healthy (by this team’s standards anyway) center and Harangody for essentially nothing? I can’t see those spots also being filled with players from buyouts.
Because Erdan and Harangody weren't going to help the Celtics win the title this year
Fill their spots with guys who can actually help now.
He clearly opened up 3 spots to sign 3 guys. He didn’t just open the spots for the sake of opening the spots.
My guess is these are for Murphy, Rip, and maybe another big man or Rasul Butler
by guy incognito on Feb 24, 2011 4:52 PM EST up reply actions
If they got Murphy and Rip
They are pretty clearly better today than they were yesterday.
But I don’t think Rip is going to get bought out.
Rip is going nowhere
Rasual Butler would be redundant and unnecessary, unless Shaq and JO suddenly return to 2003 form we need help at center/PF
That's the part I don't get.
Rumors all week talked about how Cleveland and Houston were interested in Erden, but Ainge wasn’t trading him.
Then he unloads him AND Gody for the equivalent of two sticks and a rock?
I don’t get it, makes no sense.
"Phil is obviously a good coach. You don't win that many games without being a damn good coach, ... Remember one thing: He's been very fortunate. He picks his spots. That's all I can say." - Red Auerbach
There has GOT to be another shoe yet to drop.
"We will take it easy, and walk on down our road at our pace with our focus ahead, and your focus on us." - Warrior Spirit, on what Celtics' Ubuntu is.
Troy Murphy
Good move now we wait to pickup Troy Murphy………Glad we traded the Clodhopper and the midget man …….. Green is top of the lin player Krstic OK
Okay, now that my heart skipped a beat.
Everyone freaked right before Danny landed Garnett 4 years ago. When the dust settles Danny boy may have the C’s in a good situation. Lets just wait and see how the this all looks when Danny is done.
Very sad. I love Perk.
But I think we need to trust Ainge and co. They got the Celtics Banner 17. Don’t forget that.
"There's no place like it, and it's ours." - Stephen King on Fenway Park
by 808BostonSportsFan on Feb 24, 2011 4:50 PM EST reply actions
People need to chill…you know there is more in the works. This is exciting.
by itsgabriel on Feb 24, 2011 4:50 PM EST via mobile reply actions
+1
This is very exciting. I know theres so much more Danny is gonna do
by OsirusCeltics on Feb 24, 2011 4:57 PM EST up reply actions
Im actually happy with this trade
Just be honest, weren’t you all holding your breath that Perkin wouldn’t get injured again. Can’t guard Dwight from the bench
Having a backup for Pierce and KG >>>>>> Keeping a defensive minded center who can’t rebound or has not post moves in his game
What I was hoping was it would be perk and not davis
for that very reason.
"Do you know that nonbelievers create the most positive energy?" Davis said
So now perkins is good rebounder?
the dude averaged 6 for his career.
"Do you know that nonbelievers create the most positive energy?" Davis said
He also came out of HS and averages 22 MPG for his career
You consider 8 rebounds in 26 minutes poor rebounding? He’s not the best but he’s a solid rebounder.
He's averaged 8.1 and 7.6 rebounds the past 2 seasons in 29.6 and 27.6 MPG
I’m sorry, WAY OFF this season’s numbers right there
Perkins is a GREAT rebounder.
Folks need to STOP measuring rebounds by totals.
Just like you don’t measure who is a better hitter based on number of hits. What if one guy got 500 at bats while another guy got 400? You measure who is the better hitter by who has the better batting average. Who, in a given At-Bat, is more likely to get a hit?
Same for rebounding. For a given CHANCE at a rebound, what percentage of them did the guy grab?
Perk’s career defensive rebounding percentage is 22.2% - that is awesome. And in the point of fact, in the 12 games since he came back from injury, his number is 27.7%!!!!!!!!!
Perk is a very, very good rebounder. One of the better rebounders in the NBA.
That said – it was a good trade. We got excellent value. Green is so much more valuable of a player than Nate (nothing against Nate – that’s just how it is) that it more than makes up for the fact that Kristic isn’t as good overall as Perk.
"We will take it easy, and walk on down our road at our pace with our focus ahead, and your focus on us." - Warrior Spirit, on what Celtics' Ubuntu is.
Let's just wait and see what happens before we jump into conclusions...
Ainge knows what he’s doing… There’s a business side to everything… And there is a reason for the Luke, Semih trade… Let’s just wait and see
Agreed...they know more than we do about what's going on behind the scenes.
"There's no place like it, and it's ours." - Stephen King on Fenway Park
by 808BostonSportsFan on Feb 24, 2011 4:52 PM EST up reply actions
+10
Jesus Shuttlesworth: I hate my name. What kind of name is Jesus anyway?
Jake Shuttlesworth: It's biblical.
Jesus Shuttlesworth: Yeah, no kidding.
by jakeshuttlesworth on Feb 24, 2011 5:09 PM EST up reply actions
+1
Yes exactly!
Kristic is hands down better player, and a more polished offensive game. Plus he’s not bad defensively. Semih sometimes looks lost on defense
People don’t realize. Kristic is a replacement for Semih, not Perk. Danny has something up his sleave
by OsirusCeltics on Feb 24, 2011 5:00 PM EST up reply actions
i cant wait until the boston fans start wearing the comb over as a tribute to krstic
"Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die."
im gonna be all up on you like a spider monkey!
by remembering9ergods on Feb 24, 2011 5:05 PM EST up reply actions
Agree ..
short term (this season) Kristic will help the C’s come playoff time more then Erden would of so it is a net plus exchanging Erden on the roster for Kristic.
But it still hurts that Erden will not be a Celtic, especially in future years as we could of used him with the current aging bigs KG, Shaq, J,O, retiring in the next few years.
So not true
Semih is what 23? and played for a half season and done pretty well. Celts will regret trading Semih, a mobile 7’0" with skill. Sorry Krstic is a tomato can.
For everyone saying Perk is just hurt...
What would the point of doing this trade for the Thunder be? They are trying to win this year too…
We have not seen Danny's full plan yet.....
3 spots left to fill this year
Celtic Chat Handle: Bird
by David Henderson on Feb 24, 2011 4:54 PM EST reply actions
clippers draft pick.
lets hope the clippers do really bad the rest of the season.
But through it all, we were the tightest, most emotional, crazy group that I’ve ever been with in my life. --Doc Rivers, 6.17.2010
clippers pick
The pick is top-10 protected.
by ShakersJacobson on Feb 24, 2011 4:55 PM EST up reply actions
+11
"Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die."
im gonna be all up on you like a spider monkey!
by remembering9ergods on Feb 24, 2011 5:06 PM EST up reply actions
yeah, guess so
hope KG and Baby are ready for 40 minutes apiece
by sofutomygaha on Feb 24, 2011 4:58 PM EST up reply actions
Can't wait to see extensive minutes from Avery Bradley tonight
Celts will likely lose, but at least we will get to see Bradley get a lot of minutes
like i said..boston has won 41 games with 4 starting centers.
by celticinorlando on Feb 24, 2011 4:55 PM EST reply actions
True, but that means nothing come the playoffs…rebounding is why we lost last year, how are we any better off than in 09-10 now?
they will have 4 7 footers on their roster..plus KG
by celticinorlando on Feb 24, 2011 4:59 PM EST up reply actions
i guess the old "we haven't lost a playoff series with our starting 5" line can't be used anymore
by celticinorlando on Feb 24, 2011 4:56 PM EST reply actions
Exactly what I thought.
Eternally undefeated!
completely unproductive trades thsi yr, we needed to clear out quis, erden an make the best we could with a pickup to back up pierce.
still have 6th man of the yr but gave up a starter, spark plug and lively youngins for an unpredictable future in picks with a looming lockout
danny dropped the ball
Are you ignoring the fact that we got the best player in the deal?
Jeff Green would probably be the 6th man of the year if he was on this team all year.
It's not as if we got an awful player in Green:
+1
Green was a good acquisition today as the C’s now have a long, strong athletic 3 to play behind Pierce and help guard strong, long opposing 3’s like Lebron etc.
Its also nice he can spot duty at the 4 position also.
And a potential starter if they can resign him.
He’ll only be 28 when Pierce retires, in the prime of his career. Don’t forget that.
"Phil is obviously a good coach. You don't win that many games without being a damn good coach, ... Remember one thing: He's been very fortunate. He picks his spots. That's all I can say." - Red Auerbach
our roster
i got a feeling this will be our roster soon
Rajon Rondo
Ray allen
Paul Pierce
Kevin Garnett
?
bench
Delonte West
? (maybe rip hamilton)
Jeff Green
Glen Davis
Shaquille O’neal
Avery Bradley
Von Wafer
JO
Kristic
?
it looks good i think kristic is going to be our 3rd string center an upgrade of semih def plus he can shoot it form the stripe 80% shooter
shaq starts at center...kristic backs him up...murphy will back up KG and center...JO is a bonus
by celticinorlando on Feb 24, 2011 5:00 PM EST up reply actions
It's too bad JO wasn't healthy
Because he would be the perfect defensive presence to make up for the loss of Perk.
His shot blocking would be huge for us.
One hopes he can get a few cortisone shots and play through the pain.
We have the best first 3 reserves in the league
Delonte, Green, Baby
haha
all day
"The celtics were a way of life. A group of people so diverse you cannot imagine; working together, day in and day out for a common goal. What was necessary was ten players, two baskets, thirteen thousand people and one basketball. We would decide what was done with that one basketball." ~ Bill Russell
I loved Perk.
Great attitude, great d, hardworker. But let the comparisons with The Chief stop, please. 2 very different players.
My guess is that Perk is worse off health-wise than we know and/or he made it clear he wanted a big payday that the team couldn’t afford.
I hope Danny pulls a rabbit out of his hat before the day is over because Kristic is a decent offensive player and not much more. They’ll still need someone to play D and rebound at the 5 spot.
by LuckyNumber07 on Feb 24, 2011 5:04 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Except now we get OakCity in the Finals
Celtic Chat Handle: Bird
by David Henderson on Feb 24, 2011 5:05 PM EST reply actions
Eh, they're a better team now, no doubt.
Ibaka and Perk starting 4/5 is a scary, scary combo.
They are a great team now, no doubt. Should be an interesting battle out West.
"Phil is obviously a good coach. You don't win that many games without being a damn good coach, ... Remember one thing: He's been very fortunate. He picks his spots. That's all I can say." - Red Auerbach
right on
this is the first trade all season that might make things a little tougher for LA
by sofutomygaha on Feb 24, 2011 5:08 PM EST up reply actions
Don't hold your breath
Pray that L.A. doesn’t pick up Howard Next year
"The celtics were a way of life. A group of people so diverse you cannot imagine; working together, day in and day out for a common goal. What was necessary was ten players, two baskets, thirteen thousand people and one basketball. We would decide what was done with that one basketball." ~ Bill Russell
Its a damn shame that the Big 3 will never win another championship due to horrible decisions from their terrible GM.
Worst trade of all time. Favorites to win a championship and you blow the team up relying on injured Shaq and JO.
Im done. Peace guys.
Bye.
Don’t come back. Thanks.
While your at it, jump on the Heat bandwagon with all those other losers.
It has noting to do with being against this trade.
You can be against the trade all you want.
You just don’t need to be an idiot and declare the season over and the Celtics chance at a title done without seeing the final product.
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+2
There’s more than statistics to basketball. When a team has an identity like the Celtics do, you can’t afford to break them apart. They didn’t just lose X rebounds, Y blocked shots and and Z shot attempts, they lost a piece of their identity. Nobody except garnett embodied the idea of the celtic defense greater than Perkins.
"The celtics were a way of life. A group of people so diverse you cannot imagine; working together, day in and day out for a common goal. What was necessary was ten players, two baskets, thirteen thousand people and one basketball. We would decide what was done with that one basketball." ~ Bill Russell
I agree with this.
It’s a gamble no doubt. Danny may end up looking like a dolt in the end.
I’m just not willing to concede the season like you seem to be doing. I have more respect for the veterans that are left, they’ll be hurt by this, no doubt. But it’s not going to deter their desire to win, they are going to continue to bring their intensity to the game every night, just as they were before. And that, is why, on paper, I don’t see this trade being terrible, and why I don’t think this is the death knoll to Banner 18.
The Celtics just significantly upgraded their bench, grabbed a good 1st round pick for the future, and unloaded Nate’s bad contract.
I can’t be mad at that, and I have more faith and respect in the Big 4 then to believe that will will call it quits the rest of the year just because they’re upset about losing Perk.
"Phil is obviously a good coach. You don't win that many games without being a damn good coach, ... Remember one thing: He's been very fortunate. He picks his spots. That's all I can say." - Red Auerbach
+1
looks like C’s are going for center by committee anyway
haha "Worst trade of all time"
Bye, credibility.
We know the facts already....
the question is….. what is the catch from the Luke, Semih deal… very exciting indeed
yeah precisely...
meaning… we have more new players coming to town = exciting… i hope the excitement is worth it though
Doesn't make sense.
There has to be a reason they needed those spots… has to be.
I’m not willing to take Danny’s head yet.
But if his reasoning behind it was to resign Sheed, I’m going to lose it.
"Phil is obviously a good coach. You don't win that many games without being a damn good coach, ... Remember one thing: He's been very fortunate. He picks his spots. That's all I can say." - Red Auerbach
Why?
Sheed is probably the second best person in the league to cover Dwight. (Behind Perk obviously).
Agree 100%
Sheed has a solid history of guarding Howard and getting in his head …with Perk gone who also did a great job guarding Rasheed he would be a nice addition to the team.
Rasheed is washed up and done as a productive NBA player
Can you imagine the type of shape he’s in these days?
How much more clearly do you want that said? KP getting traded to the OKC is as bad as the Knicks giving up Mozzie, Felton, Chandler,and Gallinari for Melo
laughable but you make no counter point at all.
to just answer “thats laughable” is like a kid saying “nu-uh!” when asked a question. Means nothing.
kg
kg will have to do a lot more of the dirty work now. oh and danny trading just perk was already enough. you dont have to trade semih and luke for a second round draft pick.
But through it all, we were the tightest, most emotional, crazy group that I’ve ever been with in my life. --Doc Rivers, 6.17.2010
I know Woj is only a writer and some here don't respect him
But this concerns me the most:
WojYahooNBA: As you’d expect, Celtics vets are livid over trade of Kendrick Perkins, sources say. He’s the tough guy, enforcer. But BOS can’t pay him.
perks great and all
but is a one demensional player and he made it clear he was going to test free agency for the best deal. ainge wanted to keep him but likely not for what perkins wanted.
"Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die."
im gonna be all up on you like a spider monkey!
by remembering9ergods on Feb 24, 2011 5:26 PM EST up reply actions
i think it was HIGHLY LIKELY somebody was going to massively overpay for him
like a slightly-less-than-ben-wallace’s-crazy-contract. and when that happened, there is no chance we would match that.
by guy incognito on Feb 24, 2011 5:35 PM EST up reply actions
Has anyone checked on FLCeltsfan?
I hope she´s alright…
didn't know FL was a she
I keep expecting must of us here to be guys
is he intense enough for KG?
KG to Nenad, “Hey man, you got to bring it every night, get some chairs out if you have too, just like that!”
I don't think KG likes most foreigners lol
"The celtics were a way of life. A group of people so diverse you cannot imagine; working together, day in and day out for a common goal. What was necessary was ten players, two baskets, thirteen thousand people and one basketball. We would decide what was done with that one basketball." ~ Bill Russell
The more I see Danny's moves...
… the more I like, but not love, this trade. But more than anything, I’ve been worried that somewhere between Perk’s health and Perk’s salary demands lay some serious concern. I know I’m adding nothing new to the debate, but I do think Danny’s taking a serious look at the future and yet I’m not so sure he’s completely tanking the present. We’re still a very, very good team. Just not sure if we can provide serious frontcourt strength with what we have. But I love our bench.
Not quite as simple as trading scoring for defense and rebounding!
Green will not merely be a scorer. His role will be FAR more important. He will guard Lebron and Kobe in the playoffs…ala Posey-style. Think about that.
Danny will pick up another center for rebounding and defense. Shaq and Jermaine will be healthy for the playoffs. As we’ve seen in this team through January, the defense is strong without Perk. If Troy Murphy gets picked up by the Celtics, the team will have a stellar rebounder and big-man scorer.
Believe me, I’m shocked Perk’s gone…but think of this several chess steps ahead…it’s actually ingenious for now, and especially the future. Say hello to Rondo-Green-Dwight 2013…
Ashtray Bouquet
Whats up ducksawce...
I am shocked also about Perk leaving and it will take some getting used to thats for sure…but we must go on.
I agree fully Green will help not only help the C’s offensively but he will especially help them defensively.
He is a long, strong athletic 3 that the C’s needed to acquire since losing Posey so he is a nice addition to the roster and fully solves our lack of depth at the back up 3 position.
I like the fact he can also spot duty at the 4 postion also.
I agree also that if the C’s can pick up another big like Murphy, can get Shaq and J.O. healthy, that along with Kristic plus Baby added to the will still give the C’s a strong front line and will make them a tough team to beat.
so long as our big four don't get injured
and our bench will be radically different after we pickup some buyouts
Danny remembers the late 1980s
He knows the loyalty angle destroyed our team for an entire decade. I don’t think trading Perk for Green will determine whether we win the title or not. Overall health will. If Perk and Semih were our only 2 healthy centers with the rest of this roster (and Marquis out), we would not have won.
by guy incognito on Feb 24, 2011 5:39 PM EST up reply actions
hey maybe Joel Przybilla will be bought out from the Bobcats. I think I’d rather have him than Murphy..
by MunichsNo.1CeltsFan on Feb 24, 2011 5:15 PM EST reply actions
boston is always near the bottom of the barrel in rebounding...with perk
by celticinorlando on Feb 24, 2011 5:15 PM EST reply actions
Trade
Celtics needed to do something and why not trade the Clodhopper before he really gets hurt, the midget man wasn’t given enough PT….. Green is a better player and Krstic is alright ……..
Man, if people told me at the start of the season
that by the Trading deadline Perk, Semih, Gody, Nate and Quis would no longer be Celtics and that Von Wafer still is, I would have called them insane, but look at where we are now.
Completely unpredictable. Now we’re waiting on the buyouts.
+1
"Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die."
im gonna be all up on you like a spider monkey!
by remembering9ergods on Feb 24, 2011 5:29 PM EST up reply actions
"sources say" ....the weakness of that statement makes me feel like a Laker wrote it
Is it Soup Yet?
You saying these trades didn't happen?
by MightyCeltics on Feb 24, 2011 5:18 PM EST up reply actions
No!!!!! you are missing the point ......I just hate when they say nothing but "sources say"
define source? I am a source for kool-aid but no one will drink it
Is it Soup Yet?
david aldrige just tweeted the Cs WILL NOT bring Sheed back..and it will be murphy after the buy out...2 spots still open
by celticinorlando on Feb 24, 2011 5:17 PM EST reply actions
Troy Murphy and Kristic couldn't carry Perks jock strap ...let alone wear it
Troy Murphy Stats are abysmal
Is it Soup Yet?
both bring a lot more offense off the bench
by celticinorlando on Feb 24, 2011 5:21 PM EST up reply actions
he rebounds and shots well which is nice
but we will sorely miss perkins defense
"Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die."
im gonna be all up on you like a spider monkey!
by remembering9ergods on Feb 24, 2011 5:30 PM EST up reply actions
Perk's D is awesome, agreed
But we didn’t have it most of the season and were doing quite all right. If we can get Murphy and Kristic to improve their D a little, the +/- with offense/defense could actually improve (or at least stay the same) for our team.
by guy incognito on Feb 24, 2011 5:41 PM EST up reply actions
+1
I think Murphy would be a nice pick up and would not mind seeing the C’s pick him up to add depth to the front line that the C’s really need now.
Though he is a better offensive player then Perk he is not the defensive presence that Perk is thats for sure.
His career rebound #s are higher than Perks.
And he has legit shooting range out the 3pt line.
"Phil is obviously a good coach. You don't win that many games without being a damn good coach, ... Remember one thing: He's been very fortunate. He picks his spots. That's all I can say." - Red Auerbach
Because we have no need for a guy who averages a double double as a starter
.. and put down over two threes/game, and force other bigs from opposing teams away from the basket.
Thank God. Sheed probably ways 350!
Murphy will help. Hope Aldridge is right. I still don’t like the trade.
My guess is $10m or higher
And…as much as I love Perk, that’s too much for a one-dimensional center.
by guy incognito on Feb 24, 2011 5:42 PM EST up reply actions
Noah is a much better offensive player than Perkins
If Perk had developed a little bit more offense, there’s no doubt we would have given him a nice deal. He hasn’t.
by guy incognito on Feb 24, 2011 5:43 PM EST up reply actions
Murphy
The man is double double player ……. plus shotblocker and hit the 3’s ..
He's never averaged more than .6 BPG
I’m skeptical on his defense
The man WAS a double double player. He has been a nothing player this year
Not sure that working all of these new guys into a lineup with only 27 games remaining is the best recipe for winning a championship. Sure hope I am wrong.
"Those days"...
were last year. I"ll admit I haven’t watched much of him, but it’s hard to imagine he’s washed up at 30.
by BilboMcFonzie on Feb 24, 2011 5:27 PM EST up reply actions
long gone?
he shot 47%, 38% from 3, 79% FT, 14.6 pts, 10.2 rbs in 32 minutes a game last season.
you’re going to base him losing his game on teh 18 games the nest have played him in this season?
"Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die."
im gonna be all up on you like a spider monkey!
by remembering9ergods on Feb 24, 2011 5:35 PM EST up reply actions
Net wanted to develop Favors and showcase him for the Carmelo trade.
Which ended up being Williams. But neither here no there. Bottom line is Favor was going to be playing significant minutes this year, and it had nothing to do with Murphy not being good anymore.
"Phil is obviously a good coach. You don't win that many games without being a damn good coach, ... Remember one thing: He's been very fortunate. He picks his spots. That's all I can say." - Red Auerbach
Question re: Buyout
Is there a date re: a buyout, like for Murphy or Rip – do we have to wait a certain amount of time before we approach them or can we move to sign them this week?
NOT PERK !!!
ainge must be senile. the goal is #18 PERIOD. green & kristic are both free agents after this year and we can’t afford them. so why not keep perk even only for the rest of the season. erden for a 2nd rounder? who will play center tonight von wafer? stupid #%#^^@&
I hope the Celts can sign some guys quickly
Because they only have 8 players. Imagine if someone gets injured tonight.
tonight is a wash...they will have green and kristic for saturday
by celticinorlando on Feb 24, 2011 5:28 PM EST up reply actions
Probably lose rest of the games on this trip, but that will be okay
If they actually get the right players to give them at least a shot at the championship. With the current roster, this team goes not even make the finals.
every team they are playing have made major moves..i think they lose tonight and win the rest
by celticinorlando on Feb 24, 2011 5:32 PM EST up reply actions
the nuggets aren't exactly setup with an optimal roster either
so I’m not so sure we lose tonight.
Sure won’t be easy, though…
KG & BBD are our only 4/5 players!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Are they each going to play 48 min???
"We will take it easy, and walk on down our road at our pace with our focus ahead, and your focus on us." - Warrior Spirit, on what Celtics' Ubuntu is.
This has got to be a record long thread
That’s all I got.
wtffff i can't get over it!
this summer was all about getting centers, and now we have krstic?!?!?!
by b0unce2theastside on Feb 24, 2011 5:27 PM EST reply actions
But the league
looks different than it did this summer. SA, Miami, Dallas are small teams, and Orlando looks less of a threat. (Lakers are another matter.), and without Perk, our defense was just as good (partially because KG’s a monster, partially because Big Baby is great on D now). Danny adjusted. It might be the wrong call ultimately, but I think it’s good he was willing to adjust.
IF this is all true
Then this is odd. Im not ready to get fired up yet. Danny has been GREAT at keeping our team as an elite power house SO I have total faith in the moves that have been made and whatever else is to come. You guys cant honestly think danny would make moves to make us worse…calm down and watch and wait. Only good things can come from this….and im sorry but perk is a great defender but by no means is he that critcal for our success. Hes a total liability on offense and simply takes up space on the offensive end and his rebounding is not even close to what some of you guys are making it out to be. IN DANNY WE TRUST!
by Kgwillkillyou on Feb 24, 2011 5:27 PM EST via mobile reply actions
+1
Didnt know we were having a pissing contest on whos the oldest boston fan. All im saying is unless danny took a shot to the head, then there is a method to this madness
by Kgwillkillyou on Feb 24, 2011 5:47 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I agree with this.
"Phil is obviously a good coach. You don't win that many games without being a damn good coach, ... Remember one thing: He's been very fortunate. He picks his spots. That's all I can say." - Red Auerbach
It's not that bad
Just relax. Yeah, it’s probably not the best move we could have made, but if you flip about it then you’re just going to end up killing yourself.
"The celtics were a way of life. A group of people so diverse you cannot imagine; working together, day in and day out for a common goal. What was necessary was ten players, two baskets, thirteen thousand people and one basketball. We would decide what was done with that one basketball." ~ Bill Russell
Perkins was never the reason we won a championship.
He was a useful piece that COMPLIMENTED the big 4 well. That’s all.
Completely replaceable.
The success of this time, has always, and will continue to depend solely on the health and play of the Big 4. Everyone else is gravy.
"Phil is obviously a good coach. You don't win that many games without being a damn good coach, ... Remember one thing: He's been very fortunate. He picks his spots. That's all I can say." - Red Auerbach
But Perkins was the reason they lost a championship last year
Because he could not play game 7
No, he wasn't.
He was a PIECE of the reason they lost Game 7.
Sheed’s broken back, and Rays complete inability to hit a shot had something to do with that as well. Oh, not to mention the fact that Garnett was about 1/3rd the player he has been this year, and certainly was in 08.
If Perk was there would we have won? Ya, maybe, hell, probably. But that wasn’t the only reason they lost. Don’t kid yourself into thinking Perkins, much as I love him, was any bigger part of this team than “a useful piece of the puzzle.”
"Phil is obviously a good coach. You don't win that many games without being a damn good coach, ... Remember one thing: He's been very fortunate. He picks his spots. That's all I can say." - Red Auerbach
Saying Perk's absence was the reason we lost Game 7 last year is true.
But that’s not the same as saying he’s irreplaceable.
If we’d had any top-quality center, with legitimate size to insert into that big-man rotation during that game to help spell KG & Sheed, to keep them fresh, and to spread fouls around, we would have won.
"We will take it easy, and walk on down our road at our pace with our focus ahead, and your focus on us." - Warrior Spirit, on what Celtics' Ubuntu is.
Perkins is the Anchor.
He knows that Celtics defense inside and out. He has practice and experience along with the respect of his teammates.
Plus, he’s a defensive MONSTER. Why are you blowing this off? We lost las year because perkins went out. We’d probably have fewer losses than the spurs right now if we hadn’t lost him.
"The celtics were a way of life. A group of people so diverse you cannot imagine; working together, day in and day out for a common goal. What was necessary was ten players, two baskets, thirteen thousand people and one basketball. We would decide what was done with that one basketball." ~ Bill Russell
really?
I say this on my phone, and almost went off the road…..couldn’t believe this….at all. I am really not sure what to think….but I have a really uneasy feeling about it all.
Same with me, read it as I woke up and thought I was in a nightmare.
Our chances at a title are pretty much at 0. This has to be one of the worst trades in recent memory. Breaking up a title favorite at the deadline? Unheard of.
I would say your negativity has went from 5-10% to 150%.
"Phil is obviously a good coach. You don't win that many games without being a damn good coach, ... Remember one thing: He's been very fortunate. He picks his spots. That's all I can say." - Red Auerbach
How are we going to deal with LA's size?
Miami/Chicago now have advantages over us in the paint with Perkins out.
Road to the finals got SIGNIFICANTLY harder, and vs the Lakers got impossible.
Are you serious?
Yeah bosh and ilgauskas are gonna kill KG, Baby, and Shaq.
Haha, truth.
"Phil is obviously a good coach. You don't win that many games without being a damn good coach, ... Remember one thing: He's been very fortunate. He picks his spots. That's all I can say." - Red Auerbach
Not certain of Perk's health
I thought Walton made a great point during the GS game that Perk was playing too many mpg for a guy coming off knee surgery. Considering the shoulder issues as well, Danny took a calculated risk.
As long as we can continue to sit Shaq, keep him fresh for the playoffs. Add another big via buyout (I’d take Sheed, there isn’t a better post defender out there….) - we’re sitting pretty.
Don’t underestimate Jeff Green. In our defense, he will thrive – and he can shoot the 3. The Posey Posse should rejoice.
they will sign another big with the 3 open spots
by celticinorlando on Feb 24, 2011 5:33 PM EST up reply actions
Agree...
another big or 2 must be signed to fill out the empty roster spaces especially with all the health questions surrounding Shaq and J.O.
He has been horrible this year from behind the arc
I think Green is a great 25 minute a game guy, but he is not a great player
His career # is around 36% from 3.
A very respectable rate, he’s dropped a bit this year, in the 31% range. But he’s a clear upgrade over Daniels at back up SF, and is a guy who can get you 10-15 a night in 20 minutes off the bench. That will be huge for this team who has been dieing to get consistent production out of the bench all year.
"Phil is obviously a good coach. You don't win that many games without being a damn good coach, ... Remember one thing: He's been very fortunate. He picks his spots. That's all I can say." - Red Auerbach
OKC has been using Green wrong this year, imho.
They have him screening and pulling space in order for Durant and Westbrook to slash. This is turning him into a pop and jump shooter.
With his length and strength, Green needs to be used more like Pierce, as a post-up and/or drive option from the elbow. He’s also a good passer. I think he’ll fit in much better in this offense, imho.
"We will take it easy, and walk on down our road at our pace with our focus ahead, and your focus on us." - Warrior Spirit, on what Celtics' Ubuntu is.
The goose is cooked. No use crying over spilled milk. Get on with the show, and dont look back, cause yesterday is not coming back. period.
Gotta look forward to losing with Rondo/Green when we could have won this year.
This feels like a bad dream.
Please stop being so negative
Danny is not done making moves yet. This is the same guy that got Ray and KG.
by MightyCeltics on Feb 24, 2011 5:34 PM EST up reply actions
lets end the franchise because they got rid of a center
by celticinorlando on Feb 24, 2011 5:35 PM EST up reply actions
Perkins was a key to a title though.
Some people look at him as a decent player but he was just as important as any of out Big 3.
I see it like this...
If we somehow make it to the finals (not likely after today) we are going to have to pray that Bynum is injured otherwise Lakers will dominate us yet again due to our severe lack of size if JO and Shaq are injured.
It was a roster clearing move.
And I’m shocked by it, to be honest. I thought Danny had a lot more faith in Semih than that…
"Phil is obviously a good coach. You don't win that many games without being a damn good coach, ... Remember one thing: He's been very fortunate. He picks his spots. That's all I can say." - Red Auerbach
It's a Minnesota pick
in 2013. Should be about #31 to #33 in the draft.
"People don't understand, if you can't live the rest of your life off one year in the NBA, you can't live off 21." -- Keon Clark
this sounds like the night boston traded the #5 pick for an old, washed up SG that was coming off ankle surgery...how has that worked out
for the celtics??? let danny finish…one piece leads to another ala ray to KG
by celticinorlando on Feb 24, 2011 5:36 PM EST reply actions
What are you talking about
I don’t recall anyone having a negative reaction to that trade
maybe not on this board but many weren't happy
by celticinorlando on Feb 24, 2011 5:38 PM EST up reply actions
Not here?
People on here were KILLING Danny for trading for Ray. Killing.
He's right. I was one of them.
I figured Allen might be washed up, I thought well of Delonte’s future, and liked what we might be getting in a guy like Green.
There were a lot of us who felt that way that night. And others just kept saying, wait, wait, something else big will be happening soon.
Wrong
It wasn’t until we got KG where people realized that Danny knows more about basketball than they do. On draft night, when we traded for Ray, people on here thought the world was ending.
Probably so, but that was in the offseason and once KG was brought on the plan was apparent
There was time to build a team with chemistry. There was a training camp. This is with 27 games left in the season. No time to build a team and the cehmistry. It is a huge difference.
That seems to happen a lot.
"Phil is obviously a good coach. You don't win that many games without being a damn good coach, ... Remember one thing: He's been very fortunate. He picks his spots. That's all I can say." - Red Auerbach
Ya, not sure where you were duirng that.
But people were rioting the streets.
"Phil is obviously a good coach. You don't win that many games without being a damn good coach, ... Remember one thing: He's been very fortunate. He picks his spots. That's all I can say." - Red Auerbach
I agree we should let everything finish before full judgement
but some of the comments about Perk and how to win in the NBA are just foolish, nothing personal. People must understand value a little better. Troy Murphy over Perk? IMO does not make the Celts better and I have never been a Jeff Green fan, no matter how you gussy him up.
here is the thing..Danny knows what 3 guys he wants to bring on board
by celticinorlando on Feb 24, 2011 5:38 PM EST reply actions
So he knows the three guys
Do you think maybe there are other teams that also want these three guys?
Looking at the big picture
The roster was been put together to play Orlando and Lakers. But they are not the teams to beat right now. The C’s have more trouble against the Bulls, and possibly the Heat and from the West, the Mavs. I guess the moves are an answer to that.
The only key player being traded is Perk, while the others are replacable – well maybe not chemistry-wise, but otherwise. The first part of this season showed us, that the team can play without him, if Shaq is healthy (the big IF). Having Krstic off the bench should be an upgrade from Semih (even though I like Semih a lot).
The key for the C’s was obviously to get a reliable substitute for Pierce, and Green looks like that guy.
I’m still shocked about Perk not being in green, but life goes on…
by European NBA fan on Feb 24, 2011 5:39 PM EST reply actions
is this DAs way of getting back at the Celtics?
for trading him in the 80’s?
kidding aside i do believe the 2nd shoe will fall then we can see our team. right now is not the time to judge. Will miss PERK.
Think about the Perk trade
Recently I went on the Celticsblog archive back to July-October 2007 and most people were whining like little girls that Danny traded for Ray (age, Rays a ballhog, him and Pierce will never have good chemistry), then everyone started crying that we got KG (age, headcase). Before and during those cries people was calling for Pierce to get traded for draft picks so we can rebuild. Now most people are crying about getting rid of Perk for Jeff Green. I’m sure Danny is acting in the best interest of the team. I love Perk but I think we overrated him. Take a closer look and you’d realise that the only good thing he did is play post defence on other big physical guys like Dwight Howard and Shaq, but he regularly got burned by more athletic guys big men and big men that can shoot from range. He rebounded ok but not good for a starting center, he blocked shots but not that great for a "defensive center", he had bricks for hands and was a liability on offense, got to many T’s and now may have a newly discovered durability issue. I think this trade was the right one.
Count me in.
"Phil is obviously a good coach. You don't win that many games without being a damn good coach, ... Remember one thing: He's been very fortunate. He picks his spots. That's all I can say." - Red Auerbach
No
I have had them for like 15 years. Not going to give them up over this, although I don’t think the Celtics are a better team right now. I would be interested in knowing what teams made a huge move like this with the season 3/4 over and then won the NBA championship.
+1
Completely agree. And people seem to not see that we still have 3 ROSTER SPOTS AVAILABLE! Danny obviously has something on the works that would enable this team to still compete for the tittle and map out the future if you will at the same time. There’s still pieces that’s going to come out from Buy Outs. Save the partial judgment til then.
by thatswhatshesaid23 on Feb 24, 2011 5:53 PM EST up reply actions
Today sealed the Celtics fate.
I feel bad for the Big 3 and Rondo. Losing his best friend and all hope at another title after working so hard through injuries all year, just to have it instantly washed away.
What a waste.
Fire Danny. Lakers now have a 2011 championship guaranteed.
I want to cut this out and frame it.
Then repost it come playoff time.
Where Flawless will be saying “I’ve been behind this team all along, I told you all they were going to win!”
"Phil is obviously a good coach. You don't win that many games without being a damn good coach, ... Remember one thing: He's been very fortunate. He picks his spots. That's all I can say." - Red Auerbach
+1
Lol, would be better to actually save this whole thread.
by thatswhatshesaid23 on Feb 24, 2011 5:55 PM EST up reply actions
Lakers??
The Spurs are 47-10. 2-0 against the Lakers. They’ll have homecourt, Gasol-era Lakers have NEVER won a playoff series without homecourt.
Also, they’ve won four titles in the last 11 years. Spurs are the favorites. Only Laker homers think otherwise.
+1
WHY is nobody ever talking about the Spurs?
I know we beat them in our one matchup. But right now, they look damn scary.
"We will take it easy, and walk on down our road at our pace with our focus ahead, and your focus on us." - Warrior Spirit, on what Celtics' Ubuntu is.
danny didnt want to be outdone
by the nets and knicks, using lots of players on questionable trades.
we maybe out in the first round
if we don’t get the #1 seed in the east, we may not make it to the 2nd round. dwight is now going to have us for lunch.
If Danny doesn't come onto WEEI soon ...
I’m going to commit sepuku.
The drivel!
"People don't understand, if you can't live the rest of your life off one year in the NBA, you can't live off 21." -- Keon Clark
We'll only play Orlando IF we get the 1 seed
A 2 or 3 seed will pit us against Chicago in the 2nd round.
what the hell ..
this is just about wyc and danny being cheap c,mon kristic in the playoffs they better be in the play for howard and danny really must think shaq and jermaine are going to be healthy come playoff time looks like we are rebuilding instead of going after the title how pissed do you think the big 3 are about this trade they better win it this year cause they are done next year . and trading ehrden and harongody for nothing but a 2nd rounder maybe he does have something up his sleeve is sheed coming back ? are we going to get murphy on the buyout ? this really is baffling every fan seems like we are throwing in the towel who cares if we suck in 2 years its time to win now but now i dont think we can. this just sucks mark my words perk is not coming back next year the knicks and heat are going to throw a boat load of cash his way and perk will bite like i said we better be in hard for howard next year then theses dumb trades wont look so bad cause we are gonna go back to the ml carr era really fast .
lohaus #54
danny has prepped us for the future...celtics will be a major player in 2012 with a max contract to play with rondo
by celticinorlando on Feb 24, 2011 5:56 PM EST reply actions
future? 2012 get real?
rondo & superman ain’t going to get the job done. just hack these 2 guys. this is our best chance for #18 with perk!
The future is now.
I heard that somewhere.
Take out the emotion for the players
and I love the trade. Look we won 41 games with 4 different centers…it’s about the TEAM defense not just one player. I think a lot of you over value Perk. He was a liability on the offensive end. I for one believe when the dust settles Danny has us in better shape this year for #18 and also for #19, etc, etc!!!
by Las Vegas Asian on Feb 24, 2011 6:13 PM EST reply actions
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KP brought a lot to the table , but wont miss any of the following: unwillingness to go up for a shot without first gathering and putting the ball on the floor, resulting in TOs and blocks. No range outside of five feet; propensity of tech fouls. And still wants 8-10 mill. In Danny we trust.
"Celtics bring order and structure to a chaotic world"
About 1,000 words into an article on this for SBN Boston, I'm starting to feel better about it.
We’re depending too much on the injured O’Neal not-brothers to be sure, but Jeff Green provides a good back up wing, and Kristic/Murphy can work out on the bench. This team is based around the Big Four, not Kendrick Perkins. We worked well without him for the start of the year, and adding a very good, young option off the bench in Jeff Green is big, especially when that unit was so uncertain all year long.
I’m really not going to miss Nate, either.
For the future, I’m not sure anything is really going to work so long as we’re paying a 35-year-old Paul Pierce $15 million, but Jeff Green is the type of player who could potentially be a significant piece, if a 3rd/4th option type, on the next wave of Celtics teams along with whoever we get with our 2012 lottery pick.
The real question for me is, does a core of Rondo/Green/Pick/(probably Howard) make for a championship future, or a Semi-finals future? I have to say it sounds a lot more like the latter to me, and honestly, I don’t give a whit for making it to the semi-finals.
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We need to see what transpires over the next few days...
Danny is no dummy… if he made this trade, there is a reason for it. He sees this team everyday in practice, in the locker room, everywhere. We don’t. Sure I am devastated to see someone like Perk who embodied Celtic pride go, but the reality is that Perk value is what it is today because he played with the Big 3. If you roll back the tape and watch Perk early in his career when the C’s were >500, he hasn’t changed much. Jeff Green is a very talented player that can play at the 3-4 position and that has proven to be healthy.
Danny is not done – we have addressed the need to for a 3 – we will get an insurance big men that we will play the 4-5 (probably Murphy) and most likely another piece or 2. The O’neals will be healthy for the playoffs.
Let’s keep the faith.
Will miss you Semih!
My son’s Celtics ERDEN #86 came in the mail today from the NBA Store – what a bummer.
Woah.
That is sad. I really liked Erden, too. I thought he was a keeper.
I still don’t completely understand the Erden/Gody → CLE trade yet.
’Still waiting on the other shoe.
"We will take it easy, and walk on down our road at our pace with our focus ahead, and your focus on us." - Warrior Spirit, on what Celtics' Ubuntu is.
Same here.
I think we did a big favor to CLE with this trade!!
I think D.A talk to Murphy and he tell him that he’s coming here and know about RIP bouth out. Is the only way make sence.
That's a tearjerker man...
Sorry for your kid. :(
I’d give him my large russell jersey to cheer him up, if it would just teleport there. Large doesnt fit me :P
"The celtics were a way of life. A group of people so diverse you cannot imagine; working together, day in and day out for a common goal. What was necessary was ten players, two baskets, thirteen thousand people and one basketball. We would decide what was done with that one basketball." ~ Bill Russell
who's playing center tonight? bradley
there is a shortage of 5 in the nba and we gave away 2 this pm. ainge is an IDIOT! or wyc is running a ponzi scheme and going bankrupt. how else can you explain trading erden & luke for a 2nd rounder.
I read the bad news on Semih after reading this on the Celtics.com site just minutes before -
Starting Semih
It had been quite a while since Erden had played in a game prior to Tuesday night – 16 days, to be exact – and it’s been even longer since he got a taste of the starting lineup. Erden has not started since Jan. 27 against the Portland Trail Blazers and hasn’t played more than 17 minutes in a game since Jan. 22 against the Wizards.
There’s no doubt that the rookie center will play an integral role in Boston’s attempt to win tonight’s game and the remainder of this four-game road trip. Erden looked a little off on Tuesday night, as he went scoreless and grabbed only one rebound in 17 minutes after his difficult All-Star break travel schedule. He had flown home to Turkey and back to Boston before arriving in Northern California for Tuesday’s game. He should be a bit more adjusted to the time zone this time around, and the Celtics have to hope that his body will respond with a strong performance in the starting lineup.
talk about emotional rollercoasters….at our house we were pumped to see him start tonight. Hope his mom’s better.
From a Lakers fans in Mass(I'm from Springfield) Thank you Danny
U just killed the only legit threat to our threepeat this year tho u may have given the Thunder a better chance to compete we still have the Duarantula stopper in Ron and Kobe has proven up to stoppin Westbrook. I truly dont understand why u trade Perk Green is ok but not for what Perk brought to the table. I mean really who is the Center next year? I bet Green does ok in Boston but he wont truly change much except Pierce’s min total(i guess that does help) but as much as i’m enjoyin the pain of the Celts fans everywhere u guys are overreactin. We had an injured Bynum three years straight and we kept faith. You guys have Perk injured once and toss him like trash. Reason 1300 im a Laker fan but hey.
by Blackmamba81024 on Feb 25, 2011 1:44 AM EST reply actions
All will be fine
Dany knows MUCH better than all of us about our centers. He may know that the Oneals will be perfectly healthy quite soon. He may know that Perk shoulder (the one that he injures once in a while) is getting worse. He may know that we will be unable to resign Perk. He may know that we have been quite good without Perk. He may know that the chemistry with Shaq have been “quite good”.
About he LA “length”… well i think the 6’9’’ Green can play quite well against the 6’10’’ Odom. And i guess that Shaq is quite able to deal with the always injured Bynum. And i guess that KG can play quite well against Gasoft.
In Danny we trust (he has earned it)
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