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What If?

What if Andrew Bynum did not go over the back of Kendrick Perkins in Game 6 of the Finals last season?  Does the trade sending Perk to the Thunder still happen?  Maybe not.  In that alternate reality, its quite possible, some would say likely that the Celtics defeat the Lakers and we're talking about banner number 19 this season and a repeat title for the still undefeated-in-the-playoffs Starting Five.  

In this alternate reality, the Celtics don't need to stock up on O'Neals in the offseason and instead can focus on adding depth in the wings.   Depth that would be sufficient should Marquis Daniels, the primary backup to Paul Pierce, is injured - or maybe even Tony Allen decides to take the hometown discount for another round of Salmon and Mashed with the guys and a shot at a third title.  In this scenario, Danny wouldn't have to trade his most tradeable chip to chase small forward depth (one may argue though that Perk would demand even more money this offseason as a starter on a two or three time champion, making him still likely to be traded - and that's totally possible). In this world, Perk probably sits tonight in a hotel room in L.A., getting ready to face the Clippers with his Brothers instead of watching his new teammates get plastered by the Magic in OKC.  

What if Gilbert Arenas did not bring a gun into the locker room on Christmas Eve 2009? (hang in with me here - I know this is going to be a bit of a stretch)   Does Quisy still end up on a stretcher, being carted off the court following a freak accident involving Marquis' neck and Gilbert's chest?  Possibly not - Gilbert ended up on the Magic because he was a pariah following his return to the league from his lengthy suspension and the Magic took a flyer on him.  He may not be on the Magic at all right now - if Gil doesn't get suspended, the Wiz probably don't have John Wall and Arenas probably isn't traded to the Magic.  As Danny mentioned in his interview on WEEI yesterday, the injury to Marquis' really set this trade in motion.  Without Arenas in the exact position he was in at the time, maybe Marquis's neck is never hurt.

Star-divide

I'm still stunned by this trade.   I get the logic, I hope it works, but it still bums me out.   But I can't get over these two quirky injuries (Daniels and Perk) and circumstances (Arenas thinking he's a modern day Aaron Burr) - even if they are only indirect events that have impacted the future of the Celtics and Perkins.  I know its all circumstantial and an infinite number of other events could have occurred instead, but these two stones in the path that end with Perk being traded astound me.  Hey, it all happened, but still.....

Watching the Association tonight was another reminder of how much I, and I think all Celtics fans will miss Perk.  The next episode is going to brutal as it looks like there will be quite a bit of raw emotion from everyone involved in the trade.  Probably Perk included.  

Perk is a flawed player for sure.  He can't jump.  His slow gather under the rim is infamous.  His jumpshot is reminiscent of a lazer beam (pewpewpew) - totally flat.   But he was our flawed player.  

He joined the team as a pudgy kid out of high school, but put in hours of work and became the best defender at his position in the league (anyone who mentions Dwight here is talking about shot blocking, I'm talking about defense).  For me, what I love most of all about Perk, is that he cares.  You can see it on the court in the scowl, or the clap of the hands when he knew he messed up a play.   He cared enough to bust it through rehab and return from the knee injury early.   Most of all I'll remember how distraught he was, sitting in his green dress shirt, during game 7 - that crushed me at the time, and maybe does so more now as I know he won't have a chance to fix it with his teammates.  You could see clearly on his face how much he cares about the team and the game.     

In an era where so many professional athletes seem not to care, or are just general egomaniacs, a guy like a Kendrick, a guy who may not be the most talented or athletic, but is willing to work to maximize his potential is what I want root for.  He is the guy I want in the fox hole - not the Chosen One or the Smiling Superman.   Give me the guy who cares deeply about what he's doing, that wants to win at all cost and will work as hard as he can until the game is over.  

I hope we can find another guy like Perk someday.  

Best of luck KP - Beat LA and ram it low.  

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I dispise the "what if" game :(

Sorry G17, but it just doesn’t do it for me :( Melancholy, sadness, etc, overwhelm me when I play that game with so many things related to the Celtics.

Bah :(

(ps.: well written though!)

- Dirk van Boxtel, the wandering Celtic fan.
Twitter: @4Hoopz

by Kiorrik on Feb 25, 2011 11:47 PM EST reply actions  

ummm…thanks, I think?

When Perk was asked what he thought of Howard winning the gold medal this summer, he responded: "What’s his impression of me after I won a ring?"

by Green17 on Feb 25, 2011 11:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Hehe, again, sorry :)

It’s just… ugh… too many what if’s!

- Dirk van Boxtel, the wandering Celtic fan.
Twitter: @4Hoopz

by Kiorrik on Feb 25, 2011 11:58 PM EST up reply actions  

i agree - there is no such thing as alternate reality

- what if i’d stayed with my first girlfriend, there’d be no such thing as my kids -

Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk

by mcpu40 on Feb 26, 2011 10:02 AM EST up reply actions  

I agree what is the point of ‘what ifs’? They are ‘never happened’

by NoraG1 on Feb 25, 2011 11:50 PM EST up reply actions  

like picking a scab

"Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die."

im gonna be all up on you like a spider monkey!

by remembering9ergods on Feb 26, 2011 12:18 AM EST up reply actions  

sweet could you make it lemon-lime

thats my fav! OH YEAH!

"Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die."

im gonna be all up on you like a spider monkey!

by remembering9ergods on Feb 26, 2011 12:38 AM EST up reply actions  

Please

Stop with the Perk topics. It hurts thinking about it, the more info I get the more it hurts. We gotta move on.

by Mub33b on Feb 25, 2011 11:48 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

When did I say I didn’t like the article. I said I didn’t like the QUANTITY of Perk’s departure. I said NOTHING concerning the QUALITY of this article.

by Mub33b on Feb 26, 2011 10:55 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

This article…. Is not good

by vgarcia890 on Feb 25, 2011 11:49 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

yeah you missed the point.

When Perk was asked what he thought of Howard winning the gold medal this summer, he responded: "What’s his impression of me after I won a ring?"

by Green17 on Feb 25, 2011 11:51 PM EST up reply actions  

What if?

The gym class of Dr. James Naismith wasn’t on the day basketball was discovered or if it didn’t rain on that day? There wouldn’t be any Celtic Pride here. Well yeah, it’s really sad and these what if’s? Are all because of the recent happenings. Well, we just have to live with them.

The day you take complete responsibility for yourself, the day you stop making any excuses, thats the day you start to the top.
-O.J. Simpson

by LancerQ on Feb 25, 2011 11:52 PM EST reply actions  

Lots of what ifs in Cs history.....

What if Lenny Bias didn’t do so much blow that his head exploded? What if Reggie Lewis’ doctors were better at their job? What if we never heard the name Rick Pitino? What if the Cs never traded for Raef or wALLY?, ETC , ETC ,ETC

by csfansince60s on Feb 25, 2011 11:57 PM EST reply actions  

That was an excellent piece…i commend you sir.

I’ll miss ya Perk…safe to say, OKC is now my “other favorite” team in the league. Except when you play us in the finals :P

by mahonedog88 on Feb 25, 2011 11:58 PM EST reply actions  

Thank you perk

Thank you quis
yeah sure, nate

by thefastbreak on Feb 26, 2011 12:06 AM EST reply actions  

+1

The day you take complete responsibility for yourself, the day you stop making any excuses, thats the day you start to the top.
-O.J. Simpson

by LancerQ on Feb 26, 2011 12:07 AM EST up reply actions  

G17 - best thing you have written ...you should write more

Did you just use my “foxhole” reference?

How many people have worked in a Aaron Burr reference on a basketball blog? One! You!!
ding ding ding ding ding…we have a winner folks….

This whole thing continues to bother me as well. Just like a fever and a cowbell….I got an Aaron Burr in my saddle and the only thing that is going to pull it out is a Banner 18…anything short of that …..and I too will be thinking “What if” all summer long while I stab my Danny Ainge vodoo doll and throw a towel in his face.

thanks for the piece …G money

Is it Soup Yet?

by Master Po on Feb 26, 2011 12:15 AM EST reply actions  

I agree, nicely done

I hadn’t thought of the “Gilbert Arenas Flapping His Wings” theory, but it’s an interesting theory.

All the negativity in this town sucks. It sucks, and it stinks, and it sucks. - Rick Pitino

by Roy_Hobbs on Feb 26, 2011 8:31 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

What if Jeff Green hits the game winning shot in game 7 of the 2011 finals?

What if Nenad Krstic reverts to the best days of his career when he was on the Nets under Lawrence Frank and becomes the starter over Shaq?

What if Kendrick Perkins never recovers from the latest knee injury and we didn’t trade him?

I love Perk. Eyes watered up when I read the articles about him not wanting to leave and the videos about the guys on the team talking about losing him. But the what if game is silly.

by totheights on Feb 26, 2011 12:43 AM EST reply actions  

time to move on, people!

nicely written piece here… but i wish someone would write informative news for our renovated C’s! our 2 new players…. possible targets… etc.. you know… positive and hopeful for the future type… i mean…. helllooooo we are still #1 in the east if you have forgotten

by japsuki on Feb 26, 2011 1:14 AM EST reply actions  

What If...

The Celtics and Thunder play in the Finals?

SPLASH.

I'm a household name... at my house.

by taylorrohrman on Feb 26, 2011 1:57 AM EST reply actions  

What if

Lee Harvey Oswald had to pee the moment the presidential motorcade was going by?

by thereallargejames on Feb 26, 2011 2:58 AM EST reply actions  

Man do I hate the fact that Perk is gone, buy come on...

we need to get over it now. If the Celtic system is all we think it is, chemistry will not be a problem. If these new players want to win ( I can’t see why not), everything will fall into place.

by longlivethe80's on Feb 26, 2011 3:40 AM EST reply actions  

Greedy?

For rejecting an offer of 50% of his market value?

All the negativity in this town sucks. It sucks, and it stinks, and it sucks. - Rick Pitino

by Roy_Hobbs on Feb 26, 2011 8:25 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Fine...

But I`m sick of reading how an offensively inept, injury riddled guy “cried” real tears…..all because he was unwilling to accept the $22M offered to him by the people who traded him.

by Title 18 on Feb 26, 2011 8:40 AM EST up reply actions  

So, if your employer offered you 50% of what you were worth...

… you’d take it just out of loyalty? I mean, if you really liked the job, you’d work for half price, right?

That’s an odd argument.

All the negativity in this town sucks. It sucks, and it stinks, and it sucks. - Rick Pitino

by Roy_Hobbs on Feb 26, 2011 9:18 AM EST up reply actions  

Nope, Perk did what's right for him.

And Danny did what’s right for the Celtics.

That door swings both ways.

"Phil is obviously a good coach. You don't win that many games without being a damn good coach, ... Remember one thing: He's been very fortunate. He picks his spots. That's all I can say." - Red Auerbach

by Sizzlack on Feb 26, 2011 10:26 AM EST up reply actions  

I've got no issue with people who like the trade...

But it’s a major pet peeve when people who are ignorant of the CBA and its restrictions start criticizing Perk for turning down the extension.

All the negativity in this town sucks. It sucks, and it stinks, and it sucks. - Rick Pitino

by Roy_Hobbs on Feb 26, 2011 3:17 PM EST up reply actions  

+1

"We will take it easy, and walk on down our road at our pace with our focus ahead, and your focus on us." - Warrior Spirit, on what Celtics' Ubuntu is.

by mmmmm on Feb 26, 2011 5:49 PM EST up reply actions  

If my employer was "stupid" enough to offer me $22M, knowing full well....

that I perform half of my duties incompetently, AND my accident prone nature causes me to take an excessive number of “sick days”…then, yes, I would be just “dumb” enough to accept it.

{Seriously, Sizzlack`s comments sum up my thoughts}

by Title 18 on Feb 26, 2011 12:30 PM EST up reply actions  

What if....

we just move on…the trade happened…it is what it is…I’m through being upset. I’m not gonna let this fester into an ulcer. Let’s wait and see what Ainge has up his sleeve.

by KubuliCeltic on Feb 26, 2011 8:16 AM EST reply actions  

The guy played here 8 years...

I think the calls to move on are a little premature. It’s been two days.

All the negativity in this town sucks. It sucks, and it stinks, and it sucks. - Rick Pitino

by Roy_Hobbs on Feb 26, 2011 8:28 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

If you're interested in predictions or hindsight...

Read “The Black Swan”. It details the impossibility of predicting the future and more importantly, how our perspective changes once an event takes place. We rush to find possible clues or explanations where there may not be any. Our brains find chaos and unpredictable events hard to imagine.
As for the Celtics, I always found Doc’s “we never lost a series” line to be disrespectful. As much as I hate the Lakers, they won 4 games out of 7. Move on. I guarantee you Boston fans and media would have KILLED Phil Jackson if the situation was reversed.

I loved Perk. But he is a role player at the end of the day. A very good one, in my opinion, but still a player with a limited game. I hope he gets a big payday. He deserves it.

by LuckyNumber07 on Feb 26, 2011 8:32 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

just a reminder - please be civil to each other

these are touchy times to be a C’s fan, don’t take it out on each other – we’re in the same boat

thanks

Faith and Sports - an essay by Jeff Clark

by Jeff Clark on Feb 26, 2011 8:41 AM EST reply actions  

What if we pick up Troy Murphy and complete our roster and then make a run for the banner?

Media - "How does it feel to be that fast?"
CJ - "It feel real good."

by nathangouge on Feb 26, 2011 9:54 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

The Trade

I’ve been a Celtic fan for longer than I can remember and I’ve never seen a reaction to a trade as emotional as this one. This is a testament to Perk and this is what he should take with him as he moves on, which he will. And we will too. And let’s not forget that Perk is a free agent when the season ends.

When the dust settled with me I concluded that Danny did the right thing for now and the future. I’ve often been the one on this blog to DEFEND Perk from his detractors and I hate to see him go, but with what has happened this year with injuries, especially after the one to Marquis, the C’s were not going to win the Championship, even if both O’Neils come back. Our weakness was we did not get from the bench what we thought we would at the start of the season. Baby, a big contributor was often removed from the bench to start because of the injuries. Marquis was probably our best bench player next to Baby. How many games have we not been able to finish lately because of fatique to our starters. They covered it up well early on, but not so much lately. Against Golden State the starters had to return earlier in the last quarter than Doc would have wanted in order to win the game. In Denver they couldn’t get it done. Maybe the lack of O2 there played a role, but if everything was okay (assuming this game was pre-trade) the same thing would have happened (especially with Perk unable to play again).

It was critical for us to get a quality backup for the 3 position and hopefully we did that. It cost us dearly, but we did that. Now let’s get positive and hope that the new guys will fit in and that the O’Neils will be ready for the playoffs. Then let us hope that we make Perk an offer to a free agent that he will be able to accept.

Now, has anyone seen an analysis of this trade by Jackie MacMullan. She is someone who’se thoughts I find to be very concise and objective.

"I don't come to play, I come to WIN"--Larry Bird
"Criminally Negligent Officiating"--Tommy Heinsohn

by TrueGreen on Feb 26, 2011 9:58 AM EST reply actions  

+1

"The idea is not to block every shot. The idea is to make your opponent believe that you might block every shot."

- Bill Russell

by Marjun Raposon on Feb 26, 2011 10:24 AM EST up reply actions  

Just To Add To The Above

Basketball is often described as a business, but Doc correctly said it was more than that. The Perk trade hurt because Perk was part of a family. The players were upset and deep down I think that Danny was upset that he had to do this. This should also play in Perk’s mind as he moves on. He was very much loved and respected by the organization, fans and media. It hit everyone hard. Not many players have caused this type of caring for the player and maybe moreso, for the person.

"I don't come to play, I come to WIN"--Larry Bird
"Criminally Negligent Officiating"--Tommy Heinsohn

by TrueGreen on Feb 26, 2011 10:04 AM EST reply actions  

Celtics are also looking

for Dan Gadzuric. He’s 6’11’’ and a good defender and rebounder. I would like him

by OsirusCeltics on Feb 26, 2011 10:14 AM EST reply actions  

http://perkisabeast.com/blog/

I just read what was said in this Blog and find the first article grossly unfair. This quote was especially offending: “Absolutely no respect for a man that gave everything for the team that he loved.”

Just below the article is a picture of Perk’s new OKC uniform and just below that, “Purchase Here”. Now THAT is offensive.

"I don't come to play, I come to WIN"--Larry Bird
"Criminally Negligent Officiating"--Tommy Heinsohn

by TrueGreen on Feb 26, 2011 10:16 AM EST reply actions  

Want to know who got no respect?

Baron Davis….Clippers management got the ultimate revenge on somebody they thought was tanking.. Shipping him to the bowels of Manchuria.

Perk was traded to a team where he couldn’t fit in more perfectly. Perk is exactly what the Thunder need to get out of the West. Perk was shipped 8 hours from home.

We’re all hurting because we watched Perk grow up on the court. But to say he wasn’t respected by anybody in the organization, or by fans, is absurd.

by Finkelskyhook on Feb 26, 2011 10:56 AM EST up reply actions  

Yes, good points. And it helps Perkins is in a place well-suited for him

For that matter, Harangody and Erden are actually in a place where they may be able to obtain more minutes. (And best of luck Nate.)

I do what I can to root for former Celts.

And Marquis Daniels… well, he may be facing something more significant than what team he’s attached to. Best wishes to him.

by no kidding on Feb 26, 2011 11:22 AM EST up reply actions  

Well, they're a Perk fan blog, not a Celtics blog...

I totally understand their reaction; it comes from a biased place.

All the negativity in this town sucks. It sucks, and it stinks, and it sucks. - Rick Pitino

by Roy_Hobbs on Feb 26, 2011 12:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Or at least, a Perk fan blog *first*, then a Celtics blog

All the negativity in this town sucks. It sucks, and it stinks, and it sucks. - Rick Pitino

by Roy_Hobbs on Feb 26, 2011 12:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Was kind of upset watching the "Association" last night

I really liked his attitude and determination on and off the court. Rarely do u see players with Perk’s competitive spirit. I just don’t understand why Danny would make such a blunt and swift move like that without any warning.

by KWW on Feb 26, 2011 11:02 AM EST reply actions  

Danny, is really going to have to make up to Boston or all those Celtics fans out there. He better get some good players to chase banner 18 because without Perk it might a bit harder now.

by KWW on Feb 26, 2011 11:04 AM EST up reply actions  

Let's be honest with ourselves

With the injury to Daniels (and even before), I did not see the Celtics beating the Heat in a series. I know they are 3-0 against Miami, but the playoffs are different. Without Daniels, Boston had no one to help Pierce at all with LeBron. They absolutely needed to get help at that position – that was priority number one at the deadline. In 2008, Pierce was admittedly exhausted against LeBron, and that was with Posey. Last season, Pierce struggled on offense in the Cleveland series because of having to guard LeBron, and that was with help from tony Allen and even Ray Allen at time (which Ray can’t do now because his focus will be on Wade). Now, what moves were out there that could have been done without giving up something of value? I love Perk, hate to see him go, but to get talent, you have to give up talent. In order to get someone to help beat the team that may be your biggest roadblock, Danny didn’t just want another body. He went and got a real quality player in Jeff Green. And a decent, legit center.

And let’s also remember, this team may not win a title now. But , that was far from guaranteed before. Be upset Perk is gone, miss him, wish he was still here. But all the over the top rhetoric about Ainge has to stop. It is just stupid. The man turned around a franchise that was never a contender in over a decade, and he made them a championship team and a championship contender. To do this, you have to be bold. Let’s have some faith Celtics fans.

by bigperm33 on Feb 26, 2011 11:18 AM EST reply actions  

Miami can not beat over .500 teams

Go look at the stats… They are incredibly efficient at beating under .500 teams…

Under 500 teams – 29-2
Over 500 teams – 14-14
Elites teams – 1-8??

We could beat Miami with all our bigs out with injuries…. oh we already did that?

It’s our team D that beats the one-on-one Heat every time… Exposing his Lameness and Dwayne (I only take spectacular shots) Wade has become a annual Celtic event…

Celtic Chat Handle: Bird

by David Henderson on Feb 26, 2011 11:51 AM EST up reply actions  

yes but

just like the celtics can add players, so can the heat. if they add bibby and/or murphy they become a better team and things could change.

the lakers are only 1-10 against elite i believe, do you think teams still fear them? i do

"Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die."

im gonna be all up on you like a spider monkey!

by remembering9ergods on Feb 26, 2011 2:42 PM EST up reply actions  

In other non-emotional news....

Nenad Krstic will wear #4 and Jeff Green will wear #8… And i’m sure by tonight, the Johnson kid has already his own jersey and not a borrowed Semih jersey ;)

by japsuki on Feb 26, 2011 11:46 AM EST reply actions  

Coulda Shoulda Woulda....

Perk is gone… we must all move on!!!

Goal still = #18 this year!!!!!!!!!!

Go Celtics!

Celtic Chat Handle: Bird

by David Henderson on Feb 26, 2011 11:53 AM EST reply actions  

+1

Exactly, so much sob stories

by OsirusCeltics on Feb 26, 2011 12:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Jeff Green

I also think once we see Jeff Green play with Green we’re all going to feel a lot better…

No more 11 point quarters.

Celtic Chat Handle: Bird

by David Henderson on Feb 26, 2011 11:59 AM EST reply actions  

But if you wanna do what if...

No KG injury… no Kobe rings. We’d be going for 4-peat.

That simple…

Celtic Chat Handle: Bird

by David Henderson on Feb 26, 2011 12:02 PM EST reply actions  

What if... someone does a more positive "moving on" write up here...

So we can all get back to our common denominator – being C’s fanatics! If anyone here thinks we can’t be champs anymore… feel free to support OKC. We have a game tonight in La La land and hopefully we get to see both our new recruits in action. Right on ;)

by japsuki on Feb 26, 2011 12:07 PM EST up reply actions  

It's not a matter of reality acceptance

Just an FYI …..having been a Celtic fan since 1968 and having been a part of this blog site since it’s inception, and having spent many hours working on this blog for no pay but doing it out of love for the Celtics and the love of some of the long time members around here…I take quite an offense to you jumping in and telling people that anyone in here expressing emotions of sorrow, doubt , or frustration about the trade barely 48 hours after it happened.

I have boot straps older than you and I have pulled on them many times as a Celtic fan. I don’t recall you, or about 3/4 of the other kool-aid drinkers on this site when we could win barely 20 games!!!!! Well guess what you little Celtic fanatic fan – some of us were here keeping our spirits positive despite our misery of losing.

Please don’t ever question my ability to see reality of what the situation is OR MY LOVE FOR This team…..now go get your homework done and have some help you get dressed for the day.

Is it Soup Yet?

by Master Po on Feb 26, 2011 12:42 PM EST up reply actions  

woah!

i didn’t mean any disrespect to you and to all the other authors… and i never bashed anyone in mourning here… why would i pick on fellow C’s fans in a C’s blogsite?! did i even say the article sucked? i’m looking for another good article but with a different theme… where exactly did i disrespect this article?

i mean…is it wrong for someone to want to move on and want to accept the fact that we have new players…and would rather focus on what we have now?

does that mean the younger (than you) fans in here don’t deserve to speak up? heck, majority of us here were shocked and didn;t like what happened…

you stated your credentials as a great supporter, which is very impressive and admirable. but what does it have to do with me wanting or waiting for positivity other than you obviously disagreeing with me? i respect your opinion… and i hope you respect mine.

by japsuki on Feb 26, 2011 1:03 PM EST up reply actions  

He offered you some good insight, japsuki. Listen and learn.

By the way, I’ve noted your writings in the past, and you have things to offer.

by no kidding on Feb 26, 2011 1:08 PM EST up reply actions  

yes i read it. i respect it. & by golly did i learn alot from "what not to post in this site"

…..but i don’t get where in my post(s) does it question any of the pioneers’ love or dedication to the team and to the site though…. and where i disrespected the author or the other authors in their articles….

but yeah… you know us 30+ year olds in here… we get too hopeful sometimes ;)

by japsuki on Feb 26, 2011 1:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, I remember. A lot of us in our 30’s had it all figured out.

by no kidding on Feb 26, 2011 1:28 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah 'no kidding' ;)

ah well, i’ll just drink my kool aid now and drown my sorrows

by japsuki on Feb 26, 2011 1:41 PM EST up reply actions  

to be fair

i didnt even know this site exsisted until the links were added to yahoo team pages. ive been posting on the yahoo site since the walker-pierce days.

i do see both sides of the argument, perkins was a great guy and player and its hard to see him go. however, given teh circumstances and what we got in return im not as hung up as most. i guess im one step over the fence.

i do agree though, that you have the right to be upset about it and to post about that. i dont mind that people post about it, etc…thats what the blogs are for. im just not a fan of “what ifs” so i avoid them. peace to all

"Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die."

im gonna be all up on you like a spider monkey!

by remembering9ergods on Feb 26, 2011 2:32 PM EST up reply actions  

I did that.

Media - "How does it feel to be that fast?"
CJ - "It feel real good."

by nathangouge on Feb 26, 2011 12:40 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Count me with...

Those who find the “what if” premise of this article lame. But no harm, no foul. It is after all a blog where subjects are created and mindless and mindful thoughts have equal value. So the writer did his job.

The motto should be “In Danny We Trust”. He earned it. I remember the bloggers who called for Doc’s head. Danny knew better. Hell, I thought Gerald Green was a big loss. I felt the same way about Big Al as about Perk – homegrown good guys, our guys. Danny knew better. If Danny believes that he can’t re-sign Perk and Big Baby then I think he made the right pick. If Danny is right and at least one of the O’neals is healthy, then Kristic and Big Baby have the 5 spot filled. Nate was lovable but not getting it done. Perk & Nate for Green, Kristac and a Clips #1 is pretty good value. Let’s also remember, Danny held onto Avery Bradley. And the “new kid” last night was as good as Erden.

So, In Danny WE Trust.

by Wildblu1 on Feb 26, 2011 12:44 PM EST reply actions  

let me say

the work is very well done, good concept, fair argument and all but im with the not a fan of “waht ifs” but bashing an author isnt cool. was never my intent even with the “like picking a scab” comment. simple meant to say looking back hurts, like picking a scab. if i offended you or anyone else, especially green17 then i deeply apoligize. it was never my intent at all and i hope he keeps writing, he does a good job.

"Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die."

im gonna be all up on you like a spider monkey!

by remembering9ergods on Feb 26, 2011 2:35 PM EST up reply actions  

We would probably agree

that mindful and mindless thoughts are found on a sports blog. But we would probably disagree on which were which

by Wildblu1 on Feb 26, 2011 1:04 PM EST reply actions  

What if....

People realized Perkins played only 13 min per game in the 2008 finals when we beat the Lakers?

Perk is a liability on offense which made the Celtics easier to defend in 2010. Why do you think Lamar Odom and NOT Bynum is more important for the Lakers? Hmmm

by OsirusCeltics on Feb 26, 2011 1:16 PM EST reply actions  

Mr. Kardashian more important than a healthy Bynum?

Khloe might agree with you but I don’t think Phil will

by Banner 18 on Feb 26, 2011 1:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Bynum much more important if healthy

Bynum can deter offensive players from attacking the basket, while odom is not a good defender by any means. Offensively they seem about the same importance to the Lakers when healthy, just in completely different ways.

by hilt.alh on Feb 26, 2011 2:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Don't get it

Bill Russell obviously made his name on defense. But it was his OFFENSE that made the Celtics invincible. They ran like a well oiled machine, like an electric circuit who hasn’t lost its charge. Bill Russell had great hands, excellent passer, ran the break like a small forward, can score in the post, pass out of double teams, etc. Its like people aren’t getting the picture. Perk was a huge liability and hindering the Celtics offensive continuity. Its not a coincidence Shaq with the Big 4 went on a 14 game winning streak without Perk

Bynum, just like Perk is a replaceable defensive center who gives size and rebounding. If Bynum improves his offensive game we’ll never know. But Lakers do actually play better with Odom at the 4 and Pau at the 5. They gel alot better. Bynum himself admitted he can’t operate and its hard to be effective with Pau there.

This team was compared to the 86’ Boston Celtics team. You wonder why they were so unstoppable? Bill Walton. Like Russell, they had a 5 that had a very high B-ball IQ and passing skills. Bill wasn’t such a defensive juggernat at that stage of his career so it didn’t matter. Not to mention they were able to win against Olajuwon and Sampson for the Rockets. Perk was a walking turnover, and horrible on offense. We just got better with the trade

by OsirusCeltics on Feb 26, 2011 2:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Kedrick was going away at end of season. cant you accept that? where’s the love on his part?

by Dantenina on Feb 26, 2011 1:17 PM EST reply actions  

not really about accepting it

rather being upset over a well liked player, who played good defense and helped us win a title and was a key clog for us. i get it and understand and they shouldnt have to move on, especially not because someone told them to. it’s only been 2 days let them have there time

"Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die."

im gonna be all up on you like a spider monkey!

by remembering9ergods on Feb 26, 2011 2:39 PM EST up reply actions  

so..

are we going to have green and krstik tonight? or are we going to lose another game with a depleted roster?

by spinz on Feb 26, 2011 1:55 PM EST reply actions  

IM wondering the same

ANyone got info on this?

by Kgwillkillyou on Feb 26, 2011 2:16 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

CSNNE mentioned that they'll be with the club tonight

barring any troubles with their physical exams, Doc will probably play them too but we’ll have to wait and see

by Banner 18 on Feb 26, 2011 2:25 PM EST up reply actions  

speaking of physical exams...

what exactly do they do? i mean…what constitutes a failure of physical exams to not be able to play? i’m obviously not an athlete hehe.

by japsuki on Feb 26, 2011 2:37 PM EST up reply actions  

team doctors check them out

don’t know what they do really, don’t know how they do it on the road without an office or equipment around

by Banner 18 on Feb 26, 2011 2:42 PM EST up reply actions  

i heard we will have both green and krstic

so should make for a slightly better game

"Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die."

im gonna be all up on you like a spider monkey!

by remembering9ergods on Feb 26, 2011 2:36 PM EST up reply actions  

on a side note

perkins 1st game as a thunder….THE LAKERS. go get’em perkins

"Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die."

im gonna be all up on you like a spider monkey!

by remembering9ergods on Feb 26, 2011 3:21 PM EST reply actions  

Awesome!!

I want to watch the game with Perk. Have to check that out – as long as they’re not playing same time as the Celtics. Looks like it’s gonna be a full basketball day..my favorite kind.

by mmbaby on Feb 26, 2011 3:31 PM EST reply actions  

Liked your writeup, Green17

Personally I didn’t find it negative and love what you said about Perk. Any team who has him is fortunate indeed. I will miss him so much.

by mmbaby on Feb 26, 2011 3:34 PM EST reply actions  

Everything happens for a reason

Let’s just hope for the best. But I would still prefer Perkins than Green or Krstic in a Game 7 of the finals

by rc_11 on Feb 27, 2011 12:22 AM EST reply actions  

If "if" was a fifth, we'd all be drunk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fg3y9__ykEw

Let’s channel some of this energy elsewhere and leave “what if” to Webbie or Marvel Comics.

by KevinGamble on Feb 27, 2011 2:02 PM EST reply actions  

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