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Who Is Jeff Green?

Kendrick Perkins was one of the most popular non-star Celtics in a long time.  His tenure in town was second only to Paul Pierce's on the team, but now that tenure is over.  Perk is not walking through that door.

With that said, Jeff Green, Nenad Krstic and a few more to-be-determined players will be walking through that door.  In fact, Green and Krstic are suiting up to face the Clippers tonight.  We can get around to Krstic and the other players another day, but clearly the centerpiece new addition is Jeff Green.

He will forever be linked to the departure of Perk (and the arrival of Ray by the way), but that doesn't mean we should transfer any of those hard feelings to him.  It isn't his fault we had to say goodbye to Perkins.  In fact, he's saying goodbye to teammates and fans that really, really liked him too.

So it is a new era for him and for us.  What can we expect from this era?  Just who is Jeff Green?  Only time will tell, but the early indications are that he'll be a good teammate and will probably help win some basketball games.

I admit, I haven't followed him very closely.  I thought he'd be just a footnote in our history due to the draft night trade.  Turns out he's going to be a little more important than that.  Here is a sampling of opinions of Green by scouts and writers that are more familiar with his game than I.

First of all, the jury seems to be out on his defensive skills.

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The Point Forward " Posts Boston, OKC pull last-minute trade stunner "

This is a 6-foot-9 power forward whose Player Efficiency Rating has never reached league average, who grabs a lower percentage of defensive rebounds than Pierce, and whose presence on the court has consistently turned the Thunder into a porous defensive team. When he’s on the bench, the Thunder are pretty stingy. When he’s on the floor, they’re the Raptors. Almost none of the Thunder’s best lineups feature Green. That trend has something to do with the other starters, but it has repeated itself in each of Green’s four seasons in the league.

I think it is worth noting that he was playing a lot of 4 in OKC due to the makeup of their squad.  He's really more of a big 3 who can fill in at the 4 when you want to go small.  That might have something to do with the defensive issues.

Bill Simmons: Who made the grade at the NBA trading deadline? - ESPN

And here's what Ainge saw with Green: only 24 years old, a phenomenal teammate by all accounts, someone who played out of position battling bigger players and never complained (not once). I remember looking up his stats a few weeks ago, when I was working on my trade-value column, and wondering whether his confidence was waning: He had been a 39 percent shooter on 3-pointers in 2008-09, but he dwindled to 30 percent this season. Ainge probably hopes that Green (A) will be better playing his natural position, (B) can swing from big forward to small forward depending on the matchups, and (C) can spell Pierce and Ray Allen even better than James Posey did three years ago.

Turns out that's exactly how Doc and Danny expect to use him.

What can Green do for you? - Boston Celtics Blog - ESPN Boston

"We needed to get that [small forward or power forward] swing guy," Rivers said prior to the Celtics' 89-75 loss to the Denver Nuggets on Thursday. "One of the things I was just saying is that this gives us the ability -- like the year we won it -- at times we can go small with Green at the 4 and Kevin at the 5, with Paul and Ray spreading the floor. We've been trying to get that lineup ever since [James Posey] left. You forget how many times we did that in the playoffs, which was every fourth quarter. We haven't been able to duplicate that and, in some ways, it's hurt Rondo."

Doc has been pining for a "big 3" for a long time, and he had one in Posey but that was short lived.  Green is just 24 years old and learning as he goes.  We have a few months to take a look at him and see if he's worth re-signing in the offseason.  If he isn't, we have the option of signing and trading him.  But that's a few steps beyond what I'm ready to think about.  For now, let's just hope that he can pick up the Celtics system quickly.  And it sounds like he can.

Green just what the Celtics needed - The Boston Globe

"He has a really good understanding of the game of basketball, his IQ is very good,’’ one Eastern Conference scout said of Green. "And when Jeff is on, he and his team can beat anybody, anywhere, on any given night. Jeff can switch and guard 3’s with no problem. The negative with him is he is not really consistent and it drives you crazy. I see his upside, my deal is his consistency. But he’s talented. He’s really talented.’’

System is very important here too.  Not that the Thunder necessarily ran a bad one, but he might have opportunities here that he didn't in OKC.  Durant has improved greatly on defense in the last year but Garnett is all-world on defense.  The coaching staff and players know how to incorporate players into the system and get them to buy in.  If guys like Nate Robinson, Von Wafer, and Shaq can buy into the defensive mentality, surely a hard working, talented, smart kid like Green can too.

He will have to work on his consistency but he's also not going to be counted on quite as heavily as he was in OKC.  They had 2 scoring options and then Green.  The C's have a plethora of scoring options in the starting lineup and the 2nd unit even has guys like Big Baby and (knock on wood) Delonte West to help put points on the board.

I think the best case scenario is that he helps us to a Championship this year and then develops into a great building block to go with Rajon Rondo into the future.  Of course the worst case is that none of that happens and all this will be for nothing.  Behind door number 3 I've heard him compared to Lamar Odom, who has been a liability for the Lakers at times but also helped them win 2 titles.  Only time will tell.

We get our first look at him tonight.  He's got just about every built-in cut-him-some-slack excuse (new team, new system, Doc was away on personal matter so he couldn't even work with him much directly) but that won't stop us from dissecting every move he makes on the court.  But that's part of the fun.

I miss Perk dearly, and I hope Danny knows what he's doing here.  Green has to eventually come up big for us because Perkins always seemed to (when he was healthy).  But for now, lets give him the benefit of a fresh start.  Putting aside what we gave up to get him, Jeff Green is a Celtic now.  Let's see what we've got.

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It should be a given ...

… to give Jeff Green the benefit. If anything, we should be thrilled with him coming in. (Because, what’s the option anyway?) I hate to sound cold, but even someone like Garnett would say, Perkins is gone. He’s on the other team now. Jeff Green’s a Celtic. Celebrate it. For no other reason, it’s good fan Ubuntu! LOL.
Seriously, I’m excited about the guy. This is the squad we have. Let’s go to war with it. Bring on the Clippers.

by Big_Easy on Feb 26, 2011 3:33 PM EST reply actions  

he can jump really high. he’s got some sweet dunks and a nice jumper from 18 feet. but he is no perkins. the latter is one bad ass dude, that i wouldn’t want to mess with.

"the man who created a legend; the legend who resurrected a franchise."

by chaucer on Feb 26, 2011 3:34 PM EST reply actions  

I didn't know

A “bad dude you didn’t wanna mess with” was the key to a championship

by OsirusCeltics on Feb 26, 2011 5:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Doesn't hurt having a "real" tough guy in the middle

Why have so many other NBA coaches and centers talked about how tough Perk is to play against? Are they all just making it up?

by vinnie on Feb 26, 2011 6:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Coaches

Are foaming at the mouth that they could play 5 on 4 on defense when Perk is on the floor. Loved Perk as a person, but Celtics was so stagnant offense when he played. Those notorious offensive droughts they had would be a distant memory

by OsirusCeltics on Feb 26, 2011 7:08 PM EST up reply actions  

+1

He’ll sure “intimidate” Tim Duncan not take those backboard shots

by OsirusCeltics on Feb 26, 2011 7:12 PM EST up reply actions  

the guy is a beast defensively. the celtics have plenty of offense. they didn’t need perk to score. had he been healthy last finals, the celtics would have won. and this, coming from a lakers fan.

"the man who created a legend; the legend who resurrected a franchise."

by chaucer on Feb 27, 2011 12:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Who is the kid currently in the 5th grade....

the Celtics will eventually draft in 2017, acquired in the Marquis Daniels trade?

by Title 18 on Feb 26, 2011 3:34 PM EST reply actions  

When you find him

tell him that Danny’s gonna offer him for Dwight this summer.

Irresponsible I stand...

by LeoMoreno on Feb 26, 2011 3:36 PM EST up reply actions  

+1

Omggg that too funny hahaha

by OsirusCeltics on Feb 26, 2011 7:12 PM EST up reply actions  

The second coming of Len Bias?

Has anyone else noticed Green has similar body type and athleticism to Len Bias?

by Ruben Wolkowyski on Feb 26, 2011 3:38 PM EST reply actions  

Len Bias was a game changer

And may have ended up being one of the 5 best players in the league. Jeff Green so far in his career has been a decent player.

by vinnie on Feb 26, 2011 4:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Wait! Bias is untouchable as far as comparisons.

Bias was combination of Jordan, Labron & Ray Allen. I realize you are talking body type, but I could not resist clinching upon hearing Bias compared to anyone beneath the playing caliber of the three I mentioned.

by sgawrys on Feb 26, 2011 6:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Yea ...

Green does have the same long , strong body build as Bias which is one reason I like him alot.

I did not see Bias play alot (just a handful of games on tv) but I did see many video highlights of him from his College days.

I have seen Green play in more games and I think that Bias was a more talented player.
But Green is still young and still can develop into a better basketball player so who knows what the future holds.

by fordescort on Feb 26, 2011 7:38 PM EST up reply actions  

The consensus All-American Bias absolutely dominated the ACC when they were by far the best conference.

Every opposition coach was in awe of Bias. Green apparently had a nice college career, but no one should be comparing him to Bias. Green has enough riding on his shoulders just trying to measure up to Perkins.

by no kidding on Feb 26, 2011 8:29 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah, I've followed Green and I'm real excited that we got him

he’s a great young talent – but I also got to watch Bias in both H.S. and College. It is just not a fair comparison. Bias was Lebron before there was a Lebron. He would have been dominant.

Green is gonna be a great fit for the Celtics now. That’s all that matters.

"We will take it easy, and walk on down our road at our pace with our focus ahead, and your focus on us." - Warrior Spirit, on what Celtics' Ubuntu is.

by mmmmm on Feb 26, 2011 10:34 PM EST up reply actions  

When

he was drafted by Seattle street and smith compared him to Antoine

by calc on Feb 27, 2011 9:55 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

very excited to see green play for us

kids got alot of talents and being around, playing with and practicing with kg, ray, shaq and piece can only make him and krstic better, IMO.

wonder if we will us a faster lineup when we play the uptempo teams now too, as green has decent wheels.

"Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die."

im gonna be all up on you like a spider monkey!

by remembering9ergods on Feb 26, 2011 3:41 PM EST reply actions  

i agree also that the move was done to help build towards the rondo years

when ray and KG are gone or just KG cuz ray may stay a few more years we should have a younger, more athletic team. it will be interesting to see who danny targets in the next 2 drafts. especially with alot of tall, versitile bigs this year.

"Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die."

im gonna be all up on you like a spider monkey!

by remembering9ergods on Feb 26, 2011 3:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Jeff Green

I hope he completely goes off tonight and puts all this talk of the C’’s messing up their title window to bed. Can’t turn on the radio, tv , internet without hearing about it. Time to end it tonight.

Lots of peepers watching this game which otherwise would have been a check the box-score in the morning game.

by winbos on Feb 26, 2011 3:41 PM EST reply actions  

Fortunately, Green is familiar with the Clippers.

He just scored 22 in 28 minutes on them last week!

"We will take it easy, and walk on down our road at our pace with our focus ahead, and your focus on us." - Warrior Spirit, on what Celtics' Ubuntu is.

by mmmmm on Feb 26, 2011 10:35 PM EST up reply actions  

The bench is not all that funky right now. Yes, we’re a bit short on bodies, but everyone who’s coming off the bench is solid: that would be Green, Davis, West and Wafer.

I am pleasantly surprised with Wafer, who, after a shaky start of the season, has worked himself into a respectable defender, and is figuring out how to be useful on the offense. Funny to sya, but I’m much comfortable with him coming off the bench, rather than Robinson, who has regressed significantly this season.

by kozlodoev on Feb 26, 2011 4:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, the bench looks very, very solid now.

If we can add one more reliable 7 footer, it will be an incredible bench.

"We will take it easy, and walk on down our road at our pace with our focus ahead, and your focus on us." - Warrior Spirit, on what Celtics' Ubuntu is.

by mmmmm on Feb 26, 2011 10:37 PM EST up reply actions  

along with maybe a 2 guard who plays some nice defense, think of how good the bench would be then

Its all about 18

by celticsox937 on Feb 26, 2011 10:39 PM EST up reply actions  

like the pic

shows that he’s willing to play defense.

"Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die."

im gonna be all up on you like a spider monkey!

by remembering9ergods on Feb 26, 2011 3:44 PM EST up reply actions  

yup, that's why I picked it

of course you could argue that he’s fouling there

Faith and Sports - an essay by Jeff Clark

by Jeff Clark on Feb 26, 2011 3:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Haha, but what does he look like?

I guess I could google and find that out.

by mmbaby on Feb 26, 2011 4:52 PM EST up reply actions  

LOL - I prefer to think that the 'hand was part of the ball' when he made contact

so, no foul.

:-D

"We will take it easy, and walk on down our road at our pace with our focus ahead, and your focus on us." - Warrior Spirit, on what Celtics' Ubuntu is.

by mmmmm on Feb 26, 2011 10:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Welcome to the Celtics Family!!

I’m ready to cheer for Jeff and Nenad as much as I do with the other Celtics. Play hard, play smart, focus on only one thing (helping your team win), and never forget you’re a Celtic!!

- JoeB

by joeb on Feb 26, 2011 4:14 PM EST reply actions  

In Danny We Trust (fingers crossed)

Perk is a hard one to lose because we watched him go from absolutely terrible – hands of stone, defensive 3 sec machine, too slow gatherer, and foul a minute – into a big championship piece. Danny saw what we saw and could rightly take a lot of credit for it. So I’m sure it was not easy for him. Danny is a good guy as well as a GM. I give him a lot of credit for this.

No Perk for 3 weeks re-cuping his knee could mean a faster drop in the standings than working in Green/Kristic right away. As we all know home court matters and losing games now matters. My guess after all I’ve listened to is that 1. Danny felt he couldn’t sign Perk and BBD, 2. Pierce absolutely, positively must get help on James and others. 3. Danny has lots of faith in two O’Neals being ready. 4. Perk has peaked (not my opinion but I’m guessing the Cs opinion)

And Green is someone to get excited about instead of an Anthony Parker, Rip Hamilton rent-a-veteran. Green beat us with a three this year (or was it last year) and Kristic is maybe not as good as Gortat but is not terrible either.

by Wildblu1 on Feb 26, 2011 4:17 PM EST reply actions  

Cheaper Rudy Gay

Green is 24, not 25 like i read in various topics, has a lot of potential and need to develop his shooting behind the ark. He is quite similar to Rudy Gay (who played in Nba one year more), not Rudy Gay, but he can be similar to him. I think Celtics really needed a player like Green (fantastic duo with Rondo)…Obviously i didn’t want to give Perk… But we have to be realistic…

by Jack_Frost on Feb 26, 2011 4:18 PM EST reply actions  

see when you guys say Jeff

I’m always going to do a double take now

so chose your words carefully! :)

Faith and Sports - an essay by Jeff Clark

by Jeff Clark on Feb 26, 2011 4:33 PM EST reply actions  

You didn’t realize Forsberg was spying on you? :)

by kozlodoev on Feb 26, 2011 4:39 PM EST up reply actions  

I Don't Trust Anyone Named Jeff

Just kidding Jeff. : )

Anyway, I am in the minority in the world that really like this trade for the Celtics. When Seattle asked Danny to pick Green in the fifth spot for the trade to occur, it didn’t make sense to me. They were picking two people in the top five to play the same position. I figured Green would get the short end of the stick, of which he did. But I do think he’s going to fit really well into the rotation and be a huge assist for Rondo and the team.

I was never happy about Nate, and figured from comments that Perk made he would be difficult to pay. So getting who we did, plus a 1st round pick seems like a steal to me.

I see the Celtics as better now than a week ago. And I’m guessing that BBD might get paid this off-season.

by amenhotep04 on Feb 26, 2011 4:52 PM EST reply actions  

Yup, Davis might be the hidden beneficiary of all this — also, have in mind that we’re cutting a year in salary on the Robinson — Krstic as well.

I am sure everyone hates to see Perkins go. But the trade is not as lopsided as it’s being made out to be.

by kozlodoev on Feb 26, 2011 4:57 PM EST up reply actions  

davis

id be surprised to see him get more than $6m a year being as he’s vertically challenge, doesnt rebound well and is undersized. even though, he’s decent on offense and defense, i just dont see any teams who would be willing to start him also, so he stays a bench guy, IMO, limiting his payday

"Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die."

im gonna be all up on you like a spider monkey!

by remembering9ergods on Feb 26, 2011 5:01 PM EST up reply actions  

He meant getting paid by the Celtics (even if it’s just $6 million). As opposed to letting him to to sign Perkins. At least that’s what I thought.

by kozlodoev on Feb 26, 2011 5:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Hey, Amen, haven't seen you in awhile. What is this, spring break?

I remember you being down on Nate in the off-season, and I told you he would probably work out just fine. (Wrong again.)

Now on this situation, I’ve been okay with the trading of Perkins. It hurt, but it made sense. (However, I just can’t get over this dumping of Erden for apparently nothing.) (And please, don’t anybody jump in to tell me one more time about how we need to clear room on the roster.)

by no kidding on Feb 26, 2011 8:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Perk will be missed

BUT im excited to see our new FAMILY MEMBERS play. im also excited to see what else is coming our way. We got younger and healthier, granted some touching up needs to be done and defense needs to be buned in the new guys brains, but I think with our core basically being in tact and adding young, healthy, hungry guys to the veteran squad, and with doc running the show, I feel good. Miss u perk, but this is a business….we all need to remember that.

by Kgwillkillyou on Feb 26, 2011 5:03 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Nice sales pitch! I'm not buying it!

Whatever happens tonight and beyond, I will still support the Celtics. BUT, there’s nothing in this world to convince me trading Perk for Green and Krstic was a smart, logical trade. Keep in mind Perk was a upcoming, young, gifted center in the NBA. You know how hard it is to find such a center these days? It’s like finding a needle in a haystack. Trading Perkins is a huge void inside the painted area. Do you really, truly, honestly think Shaq, Jermaine will be ready, healthy to take on the Magic, Bulls and the Heat in the playoff? Especially the Heat.. The Heat will take advantage of this Boston mistake. They will penetrate, drive the lane at ease. There is nobody on the Celtics that can guard Wade & LeBron off the dribble. The two O’Neal’s are not fast enough to react to the Wade, LeBron penetration to the basket. Perk was the bulldog around the basket. I don’t see anybody on the Celtics roster who can fill Perks shoes inside the paint. Sorry for being harsh but I cannot stop being very skeptical about this trade. Krstic, Green and the two O’Neals better get up, shape up and prove themselves. Sacrificing Perk shall not be taken lightly…….

by hepkat56 on Feb 26, 2011 5:53 PM EST reply actions  

How Many Times Did the Cs beat the Heat Without Perk?

I agree the need for a big man or men is paramount to compete against the teams you mention, but Paul and Ray need help too. And it looks like Danny’s got another move waiting. I like Perk, but I’m amazed at how people’s love of him have made it appear as though this guy is the second best center in Celtic history. I’ve liked Perk since we drafted him, and used to love watching him play in Vegas during the Summer. He’s smart, hard working, and has a great attitude . . . but he’s replaceable. And if you remember, there was talk after the two O’Neal’s were signed about the future of Perk in Boston. This shouldn’t come as a surprise. But I do agree, the proof will be in the pudding. If the Cs don’t win it all this year, there will be some finger pointing.

by amenhotep04 on Feb 26, 2011 6:26 PM EST up reply actions  

They beat Miami twice without Perk

And this trade was made precisely for Miami, so that Rondo (???!!?!!?!?) wouldn’t have to guard LeBron when PP needed a rest and/or got 4 cheap fouls.

by egotistical ma on Feb 26, 2011 6:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Celtics beat Miami twice without Perk.

Now with Jeff Green and Krstic, it is even easier to beat Miami because we have the BIG FOUR in KG, Rajon Rondo, Paul Pierce and Ray Allen and of course a great bench with BBD, Wafer, West and two/three more to come

by TSV on Feb 26, 2011 6:49 PM EST up reply actions  

OOPS

I missed Shaq and JO

by TSV on Feb 26, 2011 6:54 PM EST reply actions  

Who is Jeff Green ?....

At least to me he is the long, strong, athletic back up small forward I have wanted the C’s to acquire since Posey left Boston.

Green will provide strong offense off the bench to help the bench avoid scoring droughts we have seen in the past from them and with his length and nice wing span he will also help the Celtics on the defensive end of the court especially when the C’s are matched up with longer, stronger, athletic wing players like Lebron and Kobe etc.

Green is also a versatile player that can also play the 4 position at times, where he can cause problems for some of the bigger, slower opposing 4’s with his length and speed.

Green is also still young and has upside so he will not only help the C’s short term this year but also for years to come and just may be Pierces successor.
He should be a fun player to watch and it begins tonight.

by fordescort on Feb 26, 2011 7:26 PM EST reply actions  

love him or leave him-green is ours and i will root for him. i hated to see delonte, powe, and big al go- and we got delonte back, maybe powe- and who knows about perk. i will root for okc and i always liked durant. i was hoping we’d get durant when we had the early pick.

by nazzbo on Feb 26, 2011 7:27 PM EST reply actions  

yeah i wanted durant to but it worked out well for us.

"Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die."

im gonna be all up on you like a spider monkey!

by remembering9ergods on Feb 26, 2011 8:05 PM EST up reply actions  

“This is a 6-foot-9 power forward whose Player Efficiency Rating has never reached league average, who grabs a lower percentage of defensive rebounds than Pierce, and whose presence on the court has consistently turned the Thunder into a porous defensive team.”

Sounds perfect…apparently defense and rebounding are not priorities for DA anymore.

by MaxAMillion on Feb 26, 2011 7:45 PM EST reply actions  

“apparently defense and rebounding are not priorities for DA anymore.”

or maybe ainge and danny think he can improve his defense here at his natural SF position….

"Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die."

im gonna be all up on you like a spider monkey!

by remembering9ergods on Feb 26, 2011 8:06 PM EST reply actions  

Not only will Jeff Green be playing at his natural SF position, he will be going against the backup SF of opposing teams with the Celtics instead of the starting PF of opposing teams with the Thunder. He should be expected to do better both defensively and offensively.

by Elvischannel on Feb 26, 2011 8:45 PM EST reply actions  

Who is Jeff Green?

Doc has 25 games left to figure it out

by Banner 18 on Feb 27, 2011 10:15 AM EST reply actions  

Stats......

Throw the stats out the window Green and Krstic improve the Celtics …. The Clodhopper Perkins and the midget man Nate were good but not like these two……. I was at the game both looked very good …..

by juanpan on Feb 27, 2011 11:34 AM EST reply actions  

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