The NBA’s New Downtown Man: Ray Allen
Ray Allen's career total for threes made now stands at 2,552, and he only needs 8 more threes to tie Reggie Miller's all-time record. At his current average of 2.5 threes per game, he could very well break the record four games from now against the Lakers at home on Feb 10th. But then, Ray has been known to make as many as 10 threes in a game, so who knows - if he really goes off - it could happen against Dallas this Friday, or Sunday against the Magic or in Charlotte on Monday. But I think against LA in Boston would be perfect, given the rivalry that Ray has had with Kobe Bryant after they each entered the NBA draft in 1996.
You don't hear the term "from downtown" that often anymore, but you would if Johnny Most was still broadcasting games featuring Ray Allen. According to ESPN, the phrase "from downtown" was coined by Johnny Most in the 1960s, which precedes the NBA establishing the three point shot in 1979. "From downtown" was popularized by other NBA announcers in the early 1980s, but please let me know if you think this is Johnny Most's term or not, because I can't trust Hunter S. Thompson's recollection of such facts.
Ray may have the notoriety as the Celtics premier 3-point shooter, especially since he's shooting a career high 45.8% from downtown this season. However, not to be ignored, Paul Pierce and his respectable 42.0% 3-point shooting tweeted on Monday:
"I think me and Ray Allen need to have a shootout in this years 3pt contest what y'all think come on NBA make it happen"
Indeed, whereas Ray Allen is set to smash Reggie Miller's all-time NBA regular season record within a week, Paul Pierce holds the record for threes made as a Celtics' at 1,538 - and Antoine Walker at 2nd isn't even close with 937 threes. Interestingly, Ray Allen is projected to pass Larry Bird's 3rd place 649 threes made in 6 or so games. What is remarkable is that Larry took 13 seasons to garner his total, and Ray is only in his 4th season as a Celtics. Bird wasn't a volume 3-point shooter by any means, but he has his place as being one of the best clutch shooters despite only having a career 37.6% 3-point shooting average.
What Team Should Claim Allen's Legacy?
The question I ask is, just how endeared are the Celtics fans to Ray Allen and on the flip-side, Ray Allen to the Boston Celtics? Since Ray Allen is a UConn alum and lives in Connecticut, he claims New England as his home. The fact is, even though he picked up and moved frequently growing up as an "Army brat", he apparently loved the Celtics as a kid. Check out this darling photo of kid Ray in Jo Jo White's No. 10 Celtics jersey http://bossip.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/ray-allen.jpg?w=324.
Ray played a lot of ball for the Milwaukee Bucks and the Seattle Supersonics, and his three point record will stand as a result of making a vast majority of them with the Bucks and Supersonics (75 percent of his career total). He made most of his threes with MIL (see below) where he accumulated the most regular season minutes by far (46% of career minutes). He was most productive with Seattle when he was an All-Star for 4 consecutive seasons and averaged 24.6 per game compared to his average of 19.6 with MIL and 17.3 points per game with Boston.
Ray's Boston Celtics legacy seem more akin to icing on the cake. With each productive 80 game season he has this late in his career, he embodies that fine wine in the eyes of the Celtics that seems to improve with age. Jeff mentioned how the trade to get Ray and Big Baby for Jeff Green, Delonte West and Wally Szczerbiak seemed questionable at the time. Ray was on the "heels" of an uncertain ankle surgery, but proved to have some lasting value making that trade a no-brainer.
Last year, a plethora of Celtics fans rumblings of "trade Ray" came to a crescendo as the trade deadline approached. Personally, I thought such talk was unconscionable. But at the time, Garnett was limping, Sheed was frustrating and it seemed that the Celtics Big Three's best days were over. In that scenario, Ray presented the only viable trade chip for the Celtics toward building for the future.
Fortunately, Ray has maintained his "poetry in motion" this season. With the way the Celtics are sharing the ball and finding Ray at an increased clip, it is sheer joy indeed. To emphasize how special this season where he's shooting a career high 45.8% from 3 point, Ray has career 3-point shot percentages of 40.6% with MIL, 38.6% with SEA, and 40.1% with the Celtics.
Interestingly, Ray has also stepped up his game his 2-point field goal percentage while with the Celtics. It was steady at around 47.5% while with MIL and SEA. With the Celtics, his mid-range and close-in game has increased to a whopping 52.9%. Consequently, Ray's legacy of fine shooting cannot be restricted to just his 3-point acumen. Ray's ability to dunk has even gotten some notoriety - see this clip from Ball Don't Lie.
So indeed, Ray is defying the odds and just seems to be getting better at the ripe old age of 35.
The Celtics' Playoff Experience
The defining factor for Ray as a Celtics guy has no doubt been his playoff experience. He has logged the most playoff minutes, points and championships while with the Celtics versus his previous teams. You get a sense of when it comes to his playoff experience, how his Celtics career blows away anything he sniffed with MIL or SEA by the charts below.

Ray Allen has 253 career threes for playoffs, and should vault past Chauncey Billups and Robert Horry this year, given he has averaged about 50 threes for each of the Celtic's last three playoff runs. At that point, he will be battling Kobe Bryant, who currently has 263 playoff threes, in pursuit of Reggie Miller's career playoff record of 320.
In closing, I offer the slo-mo presentation of Ray's Finals single-game record of 8 three-pointers made against LA in game 2 last June as an ode to Sugar Ray's sweetness with the Celtics. Those still playing the game, this qualifies as an instructional video as well, as Ray's form is consistently perfect:
Stats courtesy of www.basketball.reference
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Love the picture of Ray as a kid in his Celtics jersey.
As for which team claims his legacy, assuming he retires w/the Celtics (and I sure hope he does) and of course factoring in pure homerism, I would go with the Celtics. If Seattle still had a team, I might have to think about it a little longer, but I would still end up with the same conclusion.
The reason I wouldn’t give it to Milwaukee despite the overwhelming numbers is that his individual success didn’t translate to much in the way of team success. Every player’s goal is to get a championship ring. The only team Ray did that with has been the Celtics. While he may not have been the #1 player on the team as he may have been in Seattle, he was clearly a major part of their success, and they could not have done it without him.
So…sorry Bucks and Supersonics (RIP). All your Ray Allen are belong to us.
"There's no place like it, and it's ours." - Stephen King on Fenway Park
by 808BostonSportsFan on Feb 3, 2011 8:30 AM EST reply actions
when ever i think back at ray, i see him as a sonic
i had almost forgotten he was a buck
"Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die."
im gonna be all up on you like a spider monkey!
i can just see delonte west winning a game of poker against lebron, throwing down the cards he yells, "who's your daddy!"...."oh, sorry man"
by remembering9ergods on Feb 3, 2011 8:47 AM EST up reply actions
Same here
But since there are no Sonics, they can’t claim him.
"There's no place like it, and it's ours." - Stephen King on Fenway Park
by 808BostonSportsFan on Feb 3, 2011 8:56 AM EST up reply actions
i think it depends on how long ray plays, if we win some more rings, etc....
if when rays deal is up, it’s obvious he can still play at a high level and wants to keep playing he may get re-signed. KG to for that matter. i know ainge says rebuild but what if one or both are willing to stay as backups or as a limited minutes starter on the cheap? ray doesnt look like he’s slowing down anytime soon. id like to see ray stay until pierces deals up.
"Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die."
im gonna be all up on you like a spider monkey!
i can just see delonte west winning a game of poker against lebron, throwing down the cards he yells, "who's your daddy!"...."oh, sorry man"
by remembering9ergods on Feb 3, 2011 8:46 AM EST reply actions
I too hope to see him off our bench for a couple years. He can stay around as long as he likes in that role IMO.
That would also make him vault past Toine as the 2nd most 3 for a Celtic. And give hime a wide birth past Reggie for the career made mark.
by Warrior Spirit on Feb 3, 2011 9:45 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
14 PPG in Boston?!
This must be a typo. Ray Allen is averaging about 17 ppg in Celtics uniform.
Legacy depends on how old you are
Ray Allen is the Dennis Johnson of this generation. I grew up with the Larry Bird Celtics. All I will remember is the DJ that played for the Celtics. Anyone ten years or more older than me will remember the DJ in Seattle. the Finals MVP, and from what I heard, the Dr. J stopper.
Anyone aged 15 and below today will remember Ray as a Celtic and nothing more. If they don’t retire his number right after he retires, it will be retired sooner or later, much like we lobbied for DJ’s number to be retired.
Let’s just hope they don’t have to lobby for his induction into the HOF.
I dont think any lobbying will be required fir either honor.
by Warrior Spirit on Feb 3, 2011 9:33 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
He'll be a first ballot entry into the HOF.
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Loved the Little Ray picture...lol
Bird wasn’t a volume 3-point shooter by any means, but he has his place as being one of the best clutch shooters despite only having a career 37.6% 3-point shooting average.
True enough. Bird actually didn’t really like the three point shot as it first entered the game. But he used it with discretion, especially as a deflater for the opponent at strategic times in the game.
As far as the lower pct. I think that could, in large part, be attributed to more physicality allowed on the perimeter at that time. Correct me if I am wrong but, I think the rules got better for shooters as the years went on. Now you can’t touch a shooter at the arc without it be called..and i like it that way. It opens the game up.
But I think Bird and all early three point shooters had to play against more physical defenders all over the floor. He would probably be deadly today.
But Sweet Baby Ray is sweet, no doubt. Special player that we got to watch actually improve with age with this special team and his work ethic.
I would love to see Ray go into the Hall as a Celtic, especially if he finishes his career here.
Would have to agree with this
by Warrior Spirit on Feb 3, 2011 9:40 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Thanks Tom
What? No appreciation of the wine analogies? You disappoint me ;)
Good point on how the shooters are protected more in the Ray Allen era vs. the rough and tumble 80s – watched the McNasty and McFilthy calls by Johnny Most while researching this article – it could be brutal at times.
Any recollection of “from downtown” being coined by Johnny Most or not?
I thought downtown...
came from Petula Clark
I came pretty darn close
to putting in Billy Joel’s Uptown Girl which also references “and now she’s looking for her downtown man, that’s what I am”.
Dammit – it’s a great song – so here’s the youtube link:
As someone who actually was a Seattle SuperSonics fan a long time ago
(and became a Celtic fan via the Bill Russell and later Dennis Johnson connections) my earliest recollections of the ‘downtown’ phrase for long-range jump shooting was in reference to former Seattle guard “Downtown” Freddie Brown whose signature shot was from deep in the corner (both before and after the advent of the 3PT line).
Like Ray today, Brown was also an excellent free throw shooter. Not as complete a player on defense as Ray. Although Freddie was the Sonics’ team captain during its championship run, his starting spot was taken by … Dennis Johnson who became one of my favorite players of all time.
When the Celtics traded for Ray Allen from the Sonics I was so excited I could barely talk about anything else for weeks. I kept having to convince the more skeptical of my fellow Celtic fans that this was an awesome deal and not to worry about his ankles. That they were going to love him because he defines ‘classy player’.
To date that - "Downtown Freddie Brown" had that nickname as early as 1972.
I don’t know how early Johnny Most might have used that term.
former Seattle guard "Downtown" Freddie Brown
That was my first thought as soon as the topic of “downtown” was raised.
by spinetingler on Feb 3, 2011 10:25 PM EST up reply actions
I thought it was..
largely understood the phrase “from downtown” originated in the game NBA Jam along with other classics as “He’s heating up,” ""Boomshakalaka," and “He’s on fire.” :)
from Downtown and he’s on fire were both phrases I heard all the time in the 80’s, i think he’s heating up also stems from that era as a precursor to on fire. Boom shakalaka is from a crappy early 90s rap song. NBA Jam didnt come up with anything new, but it was fun.
by Warrior Spirit on Feb 3, 2011 9:39 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Boom shakalaka
actually came from the Sly and the Family Stone song in the 60s.
Simply put

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by tito (eight and oh) on Feb 3, 2011 9:55 AM EST reply actions
All things worthwhile originated with Johnny Most.
by BouncingBuckeye on Feb 3, 2011 10:07 AM EST reply actions
That clip was amazing...
Great post, glad we get to witness the greatest shooter of all time take the record in Celtic Green.
We are all blessed to be watching these guys, let’s never forget that.
"Phil is obviously a good coach. You don't win that many games without being a damn good coach, ... Remember one thing: He's been very fortunate. He picks his spots. That's all I can say." - Red Auerbach
Honestly...
…i only became a real C’s fanatic when we got Ray Allen & Garnett!
2 very excellent players that i was a fan of but just didn’t like their previous teams.
Watching this video made me miss that Rondo headband hehehe
That video is amazing
Can’t even put it into words. I could watch something like that for hours…Can’t wait for the playoffs!!!!
speaking of downtown and seattle, does anyone remember downtown freddy brown, a great player and shooter when dj was in seattle and when silas played there?
of course
a few of those sonics teams were some of the best ever on NBA history
They rolled out Gus Williams, DJ and Fred Brown at guard. I mean Im not sure what to compare that to but that is a step up from the Chaney, Jo JO and Westphal early 70’s celts since Paul was in his infancy and Chaney never could shoot though he may have been the greatest defensiveguard in NBA history
very very well
I posted to that effect up above.
I cut my earliest NBA fan teeth on the Bill Russell-coached Sonics and the team that Wilkens coached to the finals twice (78 & 79 for the title) were fantastic teams.
I watched Freddie’s entire career up close. Great player.
Not taking anything away from Sonics, but...
The NBA was “weak” in the late `70`s.
This was just prior to Bird-Magic, and it didn`t take a “great” team to win the crown. Still, the Sonics were the best in a weak field…DJ, Gus, Sikma were the “back-bone” of the Sonics.
In `87, I happened to be there when Seattle upset Dallas & Houston. The entire town went nuts! It`s a shame Seattle no longer has a team.
Agreed
Seattle not having a team seems ludicrous, nothing against OKC, but Seattle loved their Supersonics and they had some great teams. What a pity that there a crappy owners that fans have to deal with – Shinn formerly of the Charlotte Hornets is one of them
#20 should be retired without w
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by bopna on Feb 3, 2011 11:32 AM EST via mobile reply actions
I am hoping he breaks the record before the laker game
My main hope will be for the Celts to beat the lakers. I think the record will have potential for the Celts to lose focus and how would we feel if he broke the record but the Celts lost the game?
That would be too much for me I think.
I could watch highlights of this guy all day
been a fan of him forever…can’t wait for him to get the record…and stay hungry after that all the way to June.
I could watch the first scene over and over
The LA defender attacking Ray on his first shot does some sort of windmill in slo-mo as result of trying to go forward to defend and wave his arms in reverse to slow down and not collide with Ray.

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