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According to two league sources, Perkins has already turned down a Celtics offer that is bound by the CBA’s current restrictions — a contract extension worth slightly less than $30 million over four years, which reflects the currently mandated contract limits of a 20-percent increase and a four-year maximum.
(Editor's Note: Our own Roy Hobbs did a little fact checking, the Herald may not be quite accurate in the facts, see the comments)

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Bite yer tongue.

SAVE THE PLANET. GO GREEN!

by CaliforniaGreen on Feb 6, 2011 6:07 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

This.

- Dirk van Boxtel, the wandering Celtic fan.
Twitter: @4Hoopz

by Kiorrik on Feb 6, 2011 7:10 AM EST up reply actions  

how so?

Given the Celtics payroll flexibility going forward, I think we’ll be one of the teams set-up quite well to compete. We’re really the only current elite team set-up to make future moves. Hopefully players will want to come here.

by KG's Knee on Feb 6, 2011 11:05 AM EST up reply actions  

Too early to worry about this. We are having a fantastic season. Enjoy it.

by itsgabriel on Feb 6, 2011 6:38 AM EST reply actions  

... and this.

- Dirk van Boxtel, the wandering Celtic fan.
Twitter: @4Hoopz

by Kiorrik on Feb 6, 2011 7:11 AM EST up reply actions  

+1

"The idea is not to block every shot. The idea is to make your opponent believe that you might block every shot." - Bill Russell

by Marjun Raposon on Feb 6, 2011 8:19 AM EST up reply actions  

May be early for us to worry.

But good on Danny for getting the max allowable (for now) offer out there. We don’t want Perk to feel unwanted.

by clover on Feb 6, 2011 8:45 AM EST up reply actions  

If we win Banner 18( I hope we win), perk get his second ring and maybe then will stay to be a Celtics for a life?

by Effect on Feb 6, 2011 7:24 AM EST reply actions  

no real surprise here

he’s looking to get as much money as he can

happy to hear the C’s were willing to extend him

Faith and Sports - an essay by Jeff Clark

by Jeff Clark on Feb 6, 2011 7:50 AM EST reply actions  

+1

the fact the C’s tried to extend him for as much as they currently could is a good signal to the fans that they value Perk and a good signal to Perk that he’s valued by the franchise.

Perk’s looking for a real payday and can’t blame him. He’d easily make $30 mill over 4 years in free agency and probably close to $10 mill per year. Anyone who thinks otherwise is deluding themselves over the current market for good young centers that play high quality defense.

by slamtheking on Feb 6, 2011 8:34 AM EST up reply actions  

There are no indication that this has been a max offer. The report says the offer is “bound” by the CBA, meaning that for all we know, it could have been a 2-year offer worth the MLE.

by kozlodoev on Feb 6, 2011 9:13 AM EST up reply actions  

Actually, I appear to be reading this incorrectly. Heh.

by kozlodoev on Feb 6, 2011 9:14 AM EST up reply actions  

Exactly.

Love to see Perk stay a Celtic for life. I think he’s still developing as a player too. As good as he is already, Perk’s still got more upside.

by Thruthelookingglass on Feb 6, 2011 9:21 AM EST up reply actions  

Perk may not be looking for as much as he can get--

—only not to cause the C’s to offer too little because he’s made his intentions to stay with the C’s obvious.

That’s kind of how the Captain played it this year: he didn’t let on how much he was decided to stay in Boston, made only a few general noises about the market and process—and let his agent handle things.

by clover on Feb 6, 2011 8:47 AM EST up reply actions  

was hoping you would do exactly this Roy as I thought it was wrong too.

Thanks.

When Perk was asked what he thought of Howard winning the gold medal this summer, he responded: "What’s his impression of me after I won a ring?"

by Green17 on Feb 6, 2011 9:37 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm assuming players coming off rookie scale contracts are treated differently

Rondo’s extension was way more than 110.5% of the last year of his rookie contract (more like 200%).

With Perk already on his 2nd contract, that would explain the limitations. No way Perk signs for that little money, he’ll prpbably make more than that even under the new CBA.

by KG's Knee on Feb 6, 2011 10:41 AM EST up reply actions  

Yep...

Players on rookie deals can earn up to the league maximum (for players of their experience) in their first year of an extension.

All the negativity in this town sucks. It sucks, and it stinks, and it sucks. - Rick Pitino

by Roy_Hobbs on Feb 6, 2011 10:49 AM EST up reply actions  

Nice.

The Once and Future King

by FlaGators on Feb 6, 2011 10:57 AM EST up reply actions  

homegrown hero

that’s what Perk represents to me… super kid need him to resign

by tommyfan on Feb 6, 2011 9:49 AM EST reply actions  

big baby and perk could get stupid contracts ie david lee, joakim noah, anderson varejao. perk has done everything asked and more, that contract extension was insulting. say bye-bye to big baby

by greenbeand on Feb 6, 2011 10:41 AM EST reply actions  

New CBA may hurt Davis

He’s a player only a few teams in the league have a need for, or for that matter, are capable of maximizing his abilities.

He’s a prototypical role player on a championship caliber team. These are exactly the type of players the owners have historically overspent for (and subsequently regretted), and will be looking to protect themselves from going forward.

by KG's Knee on Feb 6, 2011 10:46 AM EST up reply actions  

I don’t think David Lee got a “stupid contract.” 80 million over 6 years. For a guy that averages anywhere from a 16 to 20 ppg and 10-12 rbs a game. That’s not bad.

The Once and Future King

by FlaGators on Feb 6, 2011 11:00 AM EST up reply actions  

Now that I think about it

When Perk signed his current deal, he signed a very team-friendly deal. Granted he hadn’t really proven much at the time, other than the potential to be a very good defensive player (albeit nothing to sneeze at). Now that he has at the very least lived up to that potential, if not exceeded it, he’s due a good payday. Just think how much Bargnani from Toronto signed for. Perk is way more valuable.

by KG's Knee on Feb 6, 2011 11:01 AM EST reply actions  

I find it amazing and yet sad

Paid journalists can write articles without getting their facts straight. Especially when the facts are easily accessible.

by KG's Knee on Feb 6, 2011 11:08 AM EST reply actions  

lol

RE: CBS, NBC, ABC, MSNBC, CNN

Facts haven’t mattered to journalists for decades.

by Finkelskyhook on Feb 6, 2011 12:39 PM EST up reply actions  

I hope we keep Perk

He proved he has a warrior heart, he wants more money and there aren’t too many bigs in the league, wouldn’t surprise me if a shitty team offer him a good contract and he’ll going especially after winning his second championship, ie Possey. Hope DA keep him here.

by greenSanDiego on Feb 6, 2011 11:14 AM EST reply actions  

Historically, most of the albatross contracts

in the league have been given to bigs. If Perk wants a deal that is as much larger than the deals given to Curry, Dalembert, Bargnani, etc., as he is better than them, sayonara.

It’s the old “two wrongs don’t make a right” theory. He can’t use big stiffs as his contractual benchmark. Put Perk on any crap team and see how he looks.

He is a nice complementary player, and a rootable guy, but a wise GM will not overpay.

Thank gawd Miami has no cap room. Let’s hope the new CBA is management-friendly, which I betcha it will be.

"People don't understand, if you can't live the rest of your life off one year in the NBA, you can't live off 21." -- Keon Clark

by Eeyore III on Feb 6, 2011 11:49 AM EST reply actions  

Yes, Miami will definitely go after him.

But I don’t think there’s any chance in hell the Celtics would let him leave for just MLE type money, which is all Miami can offer.

With his Bird rights (assuming all these things stay consistent in the next CBA) I don’t doubt they’ll offer him 1-2mil more than Miami can, in the 7-8mil per year range, at least.

Only chance I see Perk leaving, is if some cap friendly team out there throws a real albatross contact at him, we’re talking 4 years, 45mil range. Which I just don’t see happening, and am praying it doesn’t.

"Phil is obviously a good coach. You don't win that many games without being a damn good coach, ... Remember one thing: He's been very fortunate. He picks his spots. That's all I can say." - Red Auerbach

by Sizzlack on Feb 7, 2011 11:26 AM EST up reply actions  

But I should mention...

In a world where Haywood gets a 50mil deal, anything is possible.

"Phil is obviously a good coach. You don't win that many games without being a damn good coach, ... Remember one thing: He's been very fortunate. He picks his spots. That's all I can say." - Red Auerbach

by Sizzlack on Feb 7, 2011 11:27 AM EST up reply actions  

Too bad

I was thinking about that number should be able to keep him.
Love Perk, one of my faves, but not sure he’s worth more than 35-36 over for years. Let’s see if he hits a wall or if he has really been paying attention to having Shaq around.
Though I would not doubt he could get a 45 mil contract somewhere, unless the new cba totally screws things up.

by Warrior Spirit on Feb 6, 2011 11:59 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

Well, Noah and Haywood got a 50mil deal.

So if they use that as a bench mark, it causes a real problem.

Noah is obviously a more complete player, he’s worth that 50mil. He has a much more polished offensive game, and can knock down short to mid range jump shots plus hit his freebies.

Haywood, is not worth anywhere near what he’s paid, so the scary thought is, if Perk’s agents look at that deal and say… well if this guy is getting 50mil, Perk should be too.

"Phil is obviously a good coach. You don't win that many games without being a damn good coach, ... Remember one thing: He's been very fortunate. He picks his spots. That's all I can say." - Red Auerbach

by Sizzlack on Feb 7, 2011 11:29 AM EST up reply actions  

Thanks, Roy.

I will assume (that dangerous word) that Perk will be re-signed as a Celtic until I hear definitively that he has signed with another team. No more wants, or considerings or proposals will ruin my season. Danny has been smart so far…(please keep my opinion of you high, Danny).

by thirstyboots18 on Feb 6, 2011 12:22 PM EST reply actions  

A prolonged lockout would change everything right...???

Can the NBA continue to pay these large amounts of money in a crumbling economy? I mean I am capitalist and I believe in the laws of supply and demand, but at some point millions and millions to play basketball has to somewhat subside does it not? Will there be that much demand to allow owners to pay these salaries?

But I want to keep Perk…so Wyc and Co….spend it like it’s 1999!!! err….2012

Is it Soup Yet?

by Master Po on Feb 6, 2011 2:00 PM EST reply actions  

Perk is probably hoping for "Rondo Money"...$11M per year

Unrealistic to expect a quick signing when the “negotiation dance” has barely begun…coupled with any athlete`s natural desire to at least test the FA market.

by Title 18 on Feb 6, 2011 2:27 PM EST reply actions  

Rondo is a flat out steal on his deal.

I think Perk falls into a more 7-9mil range.

I’d be comfortable giving him a 5 year, 40-45mil deal. It puts him just under Noah’s deal, which seems fair to me, Noah’s offensive game is far more polished.

"Phil is obviously a good coach. You don't win that many games without being a damn good coach, ... Remember one thing: He's been very fortunate. He picks his spots. That's all I can say." - Red Auerbach

by Sizzlack on Feb 7, 2011 11:32 AM EST up reply actions  

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