Celtics Get Too Much Credit?

by DRJ1 on Feb 9, 2011 2:05 PM EST

We like to think our team knows what it's doing. We believe that there's a plan behind every move, all carefully calculated to achieve maximum success. I'm afraid that's just not so. I'm afraid they jump from crisis to crisis, putting out fires, all the while PRAYING that what they're doing will work out. No plans, not much credit due (for that, anyway).

You'd think that the team would look at a player like Quis and PLAN AHEAD for the possibility that he might get injured. (It's not like that would be something new for him.) You'd think.

The reality: there were no plans, and they are now scrambling to fill the obvious giant hole in the roster.

You'd think that Doc would recognize how absolutely VITAL Rondo is to this team, and would therefore do everything in his power to prevent (further) injury to RR. You'd think. Nope, again. Doc says he asked Rondo to INCREASE his inside aggression and get at least 10 FTs per game. That sounds just fine as a basketball move, but utterly CRAZY when you remember how Rondo ends up on the floor after absorbing most NBA fouls, and that every foul is another heightened injury risk for Rondo.

In case you think that's ok, remember that this team almost certainly CANNOT win a championship this year without Rondo.

You'd think that Doc, in his function as 'coach,' would try to stop KG from earning techs, unnecessary fouls, and bad PR (for fear the bad PR will affect the refs). Nope. Doc said recently, "Kevin has done nothing wrong," and that his critics would love to have KG on their teams (completely irrelevant, btw), etc. "Nothing wrong??" Wow.

You'd think that, having brought Avery back from DL, Doc would use him to try to stop Shaun Livingston after watching him shoot over Nate like he wasn't there. Nope. Avery warmed the bench as the team lost that game.

I used to think that the 09-10 season was PLANNED by Doc and Danny, as a way of preserving the team's health in the regular season so that they could make their run in the playoffs. I actually lauded them for being so clever. Uhhh... maybe not. Maybe.... it all.... just... happened. And Doc was more witness than architect.

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The guys know what there doing. So I trust them.

by MightyCeltics on Feb 9, 2011 4:02 PM EST reply actions

How many Techs does KG have. You act as if he is leading the league in them.KG has not done anything to warrant this much hype. He is loud and obnoxious on the court. Last time I checked it is not a federal crime. Both the Vhanning Frye and ref incident was overblown. The league office and the refs did not suspend him, I think that says it all. They dropped it why in the world can’t you? At this point it is ridiculous. Blame the media who have made this a big deal. KG breathes now and it is news. I’d also like to think the refs can see through the posturing of Phil or any other coach. l I hope where refs believe everything they read. If they do then there is not much that can be done.

by NoraG1 on Feb 9, 2011 6:49 PM EST reply actions

I meant ‘I hope the refs don’t belive everything they read.’

by NoraG1 on Feb 9, 2011 6:50 PM EST reply actions

Nora.. .let's discuss this calmly

… and look at just the following facts. Let me know where you think I’m wrong:

- Mavs game – final margin = 4 pts. KG’s tech makes end-of-game margin = 2 possessions, out of reach. Cs lose. (Note: NBA said later that he should have been hit with a flagrant-1, which would have made it even worse. KG was lucky it wasn’t called.)

- Suns game – KG is ejected altogether. Cs lose.

- Cats game – 4 pt margin near end. KG’s tech once again creates 2-possession margin there. Cs lose.

My contention is that KG’s (momentary) losses of control arguably cost the team 3 games. Further, if it continues, the refs might start turning against the Cs. And lastly, if all this continues into the playoffs, we might (emphasis on “might”) lose the championship as a result… because you never know.

We, the team, would be much better off if KG just controlled himself, and stopped earning unnecessary tech and fouls & irritating the refs. Now tell me — here, away from the noise of battle — what is wrong with this point of view?

by DRJ1 on Feb 9, 2011 8:18 PM EST up reply actions

Anyone else too

Anyone is welcome to argue/explain what is wrong with the above-stated case. (Yes, even m… just please stick to MAKING POINTS.)

by DRJ1 on Feb 9, 2011 8:42 PM EST up reply actions

I do make points and you refuse to consider them. :)

by NoraG1 on Feb 9, 2011 8:58 PM EST up reply actions

Just take the 'good' with the 'bad'

Wow, you act as if KG’s running into the stands.
The man has put atleast one banner (with another one on its way) in the rafters, fans in the seats and the team back on the map.
Yet you still complain. We should start calling you ‘buzz kill’

by thenation on Feb 9, 2011 8:44 PM EST up reply actions

People have asked that you reframe from using unnecessary and inappropriate caps

please honor these requests.

by thenation on Feb 9, 2011 8:52 PM EST up reply actions

Give me a break you can’ tell me that the techs cost the game. Heaven forbid C’s played better. There were turnovers as well, for one.

by NoraG1 on Feb 9, 2011 8:57 PM EST up reply actions

If you can tell me the C’s played perfectly except for KG T’s then you would have point. But it is not true.

by NoraG1 on Feb 9, 2011 8:59 PM EST up reply actions

+1

by thenation on Feb 9, 2011 9:03 PM EST up reply actions

Honestly I’m not worried at all that the C’s don’t always show up in games against weak teams. I know some people are. And I know some people feel like Boston really needs home court for the playoffs. But from what I’ve seen of this team in the games they really, really care about. Anyone they play in the playoffs better bring their A game. Otherwise it’ll be over at halftime.

Sometimes glass glitters more than diamonds because it has more to prove.

by Kungfuguy on Feb 9, 2011 8:21 PM EST reply actions