Report: Russian Team Has Offered Krstic Contract
by Jeff Clark on May 31, 2011 6:41 PM EDT
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From Russia with love for Krstic? - Boston Celtics Blog - ESPN Boston
CSKA Moscow are reportedly interested in signing Boston Celtics’ Serbian centre Nenad Krstic (27 years old, 213 cm). According to Serbian website Sportske.net, the Russian club has offered the player a long-term contract.
With the lockout looming, this wouldn't really surprise me at all. In fact, I'm sure a lot of free agents are going to be getting contract offers from teams overseas. If the players are smart, however, they'll work out options releasing them from deals if/when the NBA resumes after the lockout.
Bonus Krstic link: OKC Thunder End of Season Profiles; Nenad Krstic
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to paraphrase a quote from Teddy KGB in the movie "Rounders" - in heavy Russian Accent
“pay the man his money”
(not us …the Russians)
Is it Soup Yet?
malkavich i believe
"Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die."
im gonna be all up on you like a spider monkey!
by remembering9ergods on May 31, 2011 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree
that there will be players looking to play overseas and many will do so if they can get a release back to the NBA. If they can’t get a contracted release, I don’t see many going overseas.
With Krstic, I wouldn’t be surprised if he goes back to Europe and stays there in light of his lack of playing time/confidence from Doc.
Eh, well Doc gave him plenty of playing time when there were tons of injuries.
Krstic has to know that if he gets a training camp under his belt, that he can be valuable to to Celtics on many nights. Just not every night.
not good
If Nenad signs overseas its a big blow to the Celtics. Who is going to play center?
Jermaine? Shaq? Even if both Jermaine and Shaq decide to play next year, chances are both will probably miss games. We need Krstic to stay big time.
well
if the NBA limits players contracts by tiers like ive been hearing then below average to average players could potentially make more playing overseas too. wouldnt shock me to see a bunch head to europe
"Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die."
im gonna be all up on you like a spider monkey!
by remembering9ergods on May 31, 2011 7:23 PM EDT reply actions
lol
the CM measurement makes him seem small lol
“how tall are you?”
“213 centimeters” lol
Losing Kristic hurts depending on what path the C's choose to take next year....
If they seek to be competitive and make a final push with the big 3, since they lack depth at center, having Krstic on the roster would of helped especially with Shaq and Jermaines future status in question with the C’s.
But if the goal next year is to start to slowly or drastically rebuild the C’s (e.g. if Ainge trades 1 or more of the big 3 ) then losing Krstic would not be a big deal and not hurt the C’s long term since Kristic is a older player who would not be part of the C’s future rebuilding plans anyway.
Krstic is younger than he looks
He is 27, one day older than Delonte West.
I just think that if the C’s goal is to get real young and rebuild for the future they would probably want to go after and spend $$$ on a younger, more talented center who would have more upside and long term promise then Krstic…who I think is a decent center at the moment.
I don't think it's an either/or situation
Krstic signed to an affordable contract would be very trade-able. And he’s not an impediment to bringing in a younger center. Heck, you might want to have Krstic plus a younger, more talented center with more upside to man the position next season, given questions about Jermaine O’Neal’s health and willingness to return. Considering the team chemistry issues, I also think there is value in bringing back a center who has at least some familiarity with the Celtics system.
Valid points.
If Krstic is willing to take a 1-year deal, you pay him every dollar of the 125% extension the Celtics can give him. Yes, he would be overpaid at the 7mil+ they’d be paying him, but the only one concerned with that would be Wyc, and he’s never shied away from ponying up the cash before, hit em with the Hammer-Wallet Wyc!
But it would be a great scenario for the Celtics, and Krstic as well, who will make considerably more money next year than he’s really worth. The Celtics keep long term flexibility intact, acquire a valuable sign and trade contract since it’d be expiring, and get themselves a solid Center for next year who has some experience in the system.
This is what we call a win-win.
"Phil is obviously a good coach. You don't win that many games without being a damn good coach, ... Remember one thing: He's been very fortunate. He picks his spots. That's all I can say." - Red Auerbach
04 + 07 = 11
i don't want him
if we want to be players in the free agent pool of 2012 we can’t afford to take on any long term contracts, this guy would probably ask for mid level type of money and he isn’t worth it to us, if we are making one final push with the big 3 we should target one year contracts with guys like grant hill and at center pray that JO comes back, we need JO pretty bad.. kristic, no thanks!
Good point.....
If we are looking at what is best long term for the C’s… signing Krstic long term for mid level type $$$ would hamper the C’s shot at going after younger, more talented players which the C’s will need to acquire as they seek to rebuild.
The thing is
JO won’t be able to hold the fort at the 5 position for the whole season. Shaq can’t back him up as well. Losing him would mean we don’t have bodies at the center position that would be durable. He isn’t really injury-prone (last time he was injured before this season was during the 07-08 season), and he’s got an offensive game. And, he’s also a 7-footer.
Yup! More practice time with hopefully Delonte, Green and a couple of others...
could make a huge difference against most other 2nd teams in the NBA.
Yes because solid 7fters with mid range games are so easy to find.
Clearly.
"Phil is obviously a good coach. You don't win that many games without being a damn good coach, ... Remember one thing: He's been very fortunate. He picks his spots. That's all I can say." - Red Auerbach
04 + 07 = 11
I am with you on this
One more soft player the Celts got in the Perk deal that this team does not need. It would be nice to have a center that actually plays center and can rebound and play defense. No more big guys who want to play like guards.
Name one we can get next year.
Go ahead.
"Phil is obviously a good coach. You don't win that many games without being a damn good coach, ... Remember one thing: He's been very fortunate. He picks his spots. That's all I can say." - Red Auerbach
04 + 07 = 11
Honestly, next year does not matterin my opinion
The team needs to be building/retooling for 3/4 years down the road.
This team isn't done yet.
So unless we’re going to have conversations about what to do to make this team better next year, there’s nothing to talk about.
"Phil is obviously a good coach. You don't win that many games without being a damn good coach, ... Remember one thing: He's been very fortunate. He picks his spots. That's all I can say." - Red Auerbach
04 + 07 = 11
Given it`s current roster...this not a title contending team
Boston`s key players are far too old. Period.
No supporting cast is going to significantly prop them up.
Things will get even uglier in 2011-12.
However, once KG and Allen are off the books one year from now, they will have serious money to spend.
Doc was resigned for one reason : Ainge thinks Rivers can recruit top veteran free agents.
He is viewed as a coach players want to play for.
Then feel free not to watch, I will.
But I’ll respectfully disagree.
Thank you and have a nice day.
"Phil is obviously a good coach. You don't win that many games without being a damn good coach, ... Remember one thing: He's been very fortunate. He picks his spots. That's all I can say." - Red Auerbach
04 + 07 = 11
Agree with you 100 percent. The days of "real" contending for this team are over
Sure, they will have some great games and put a scare into some people, but they are not touching the Heat next year or in the near future.
There is a lot of truth in that post
but I think so much (if not all) of us are still going to be obsessed with the team even though they’re past being elite contenders.
Says who?
God I love when people’s opinions are presented as fact.
"Phil is obviously a good coach. You don't win that many games without being a damn good coach, ... Remember one thing: He's been very fortunate. He picks his spots. That's all I can say." - Red Auerbach
04 + 07 = 11
I think that what he's saying is the C's are not
in that same bracket as we were for the past years. That bracket, is of course, the cream of the crop. The teams that you’re expecting to be in the Finals. And the thing is, people really only expect you to get there if you’ve just been there.
Two finals, but two 2nd-round exits as well. The more recent one, even though it did have a crippling injury just like the other one, coupled with the fact that everyone says we’re older YET AGAIN, make people think that we’re just not there anymore.
But of course, a fact here is that there is no doubt that the Celtics are going to be a competitive team.
Every year people say, they're too old.
And every year, when healthy, they prove they are as good as any other.
The Big 3 just had collectively one of their best years of their entire careers. At or better than their careers numbers in every single category.
Yes, KG ran out of gas after Game 3. No, he cannot play 38 minutes a game and dominant night in and night out. I’m not arguing that. But, as he proved in that Game 3, when he’s rested and healthy, he’s as good as ever, and can flat out dominant stretches of a game, or series. The same can be said for Pierce, and Allen.
So I’m sorry if I don’t but the “they’re too old to compete” stuff.
In my opinion (see how easy that is?) if Rondo doesn’t get hurt, they can, and would have won that series. Even without him, they were extremely close to winning both games 4 and 5. So excuse me if I don’t buy into this whole “too old” stuff, it won’t be easy, but winning championships never is.
"Phil is obviously a good coach. You don't win that many games without being a damn good coach, ... Remember one thing: He's been very fortunate. He picks his spots. That's all I can say." - Red Auerbach
04 + 07 = 11
I don't think people here in Celticland ever really buy the "too old" stuff anymore.
It got old a long time ago. I don’t believe it as well, but what I’m merely saying is that people think that the older age along with how the team exited the playoffs this year is indicative of not being at the top of the heap anymore. Teams that lose in the 2nd round of the previous year aren’t instantly labeled as elite contenders for the following year.
But hey, we lost in in the 2nd round back in ‘09, and we got back to the finals the next year. Everybody had already written the C’s off as too old (and even older with Sheed) but we made it. I think this coming year might be closer to that.
See ya next summer.
NBA Officiating - Corrupt? Incompetent? Which is worse? Does it matter? It sucks.
Krstic is valuable to us right now as a back up center.
Unless someone else comes along who is better and affordable, we should make an effort to keep him. But with some predicting the cancellation of the entire season, as well as better money and long term job security, he may opt for the job security. Too bad for us because the pickings are slim and the new cap is likely to prevent us from a major signing.
by JPV on Jun 1, 2011 8:28 AM EDT up reply actions
If he does go, shame we can't get some value out of him
of course if he gets paid in Euros, take the money, US dollars aren’t worth what they’re used to
The Celtics still have Krstic's Bird rights
Whether or not the next CBA will have Bird rights, I can’t say.
Well, we don't know the next CBA.
But either way, they have his non-bird rights, not bird rights. Player has to have 3 years with a team to have full bird rights.
They can pay him even if they’re capped, but only at a max of a 125% raise, no more.
Granted, he made 6mil last year, so I doubt he’d get a bigger offer than that anyway. If he’s willing to take a one year deal, I bet the Celtics would pay him every dollar of that.
"Phil is obviously a good coach. You don't win that many games without being a damn good coach, ... Remember one thing: He's been very fortunate. He picks his spots. That's all I can say." - Red Auerbach
04 + 07 = 11
the probable theme of this offseason for the C's
and I’m taking this from Wyc’s statement that the team is willing to spend, is that we’re going to see a lot of “big” 1-year contracts from the C’s.
No chance of going big
They can’t even go big if they wanted to because they’re over the cap. The most they’ll be able to offer is mid-level exception money and that might not even exist in the new CBA. Then it’ll be the bi-annual exception and league minimums.
Besides the mid-level exception, their best chance of acquiring a good player is through sign-and-trades of Davis and/or Green and I wouldn’t expect too much from that.
They can use the Bird/Non-Bird exceptions to keep players.
So the “Big” deals would be basically drastically over paying a player in order to entice him to play on a 1-year deal.
Take a 6mil player, pay him 8, but only 1 year guaranteed. You can do that with the bird rights contracts (assuming they stay in the new CBA) even if you’re capped.
"Phil is obviously a good coach. You don't win that many games without being a damn good coach, ... Remember one thing: He's been very fortunate. He picks his spots. That's all I can say." - Red Auerbach
04 + 07 = 11
They have his Bird rights
A team inherits the Bird rights of a player it trades for, unless the player is on a one-year contract.
I stand corrected.
You are right:
http://members.cox.net/lmcoon/salarycap.htm#Q26
"Phil is obviously a good coach. You don't win that many games without being a damn good coach, ... Remember one thing: He's been very fortunate. He picks his spots. That's all I can say." - Red Auerbach
04 + 07 = 11
Bet the Celtics would offer 2 years...
Why not? That would sow up about 15-25 minutes per night at the 5 on most nights. After next season, he could be part of many offers with an expiring contract. Heck, he could probably be pretty effective on the Heat if they offered him the midlevel. Howard and Illgauskas will probably retire if Miami wins the title.
Nads has game
Just take Brigadier General Jack T. Ripper says, “Watch out for your precious bodily fluids.”
by thereallargejames on May 31, 2011 10:55 PM EDT reply actions
Not too upset
Eh, not a big loss, if he goes. If he was going to be a big factor or had to be, it wouldn’t be good for the Celtics. They need better rebounders and rim protectors than Krstic. I’d be kind of surprised if he signs with a Russian club. I thought he had a bad experience the last time he played there, to the point that he left mid-season and signed with Oklahoma. Part of the issue if I remember correctly was that he wasn’t getting paid. I don’t know why he would want to go through that again, unless the money is too much to turn down and he wants to play a bigger role.
I don't disagree that we need better rebounders and rim protectors
but you have to know that we need people at the Center position as well. Right now, he’s the only “viable” one we have with JO and Shaq facing injuries and probable retirement. We can’t really expect to get that lucky in free agency and get a better center, albeit, two better centers than Krstic is.
They should have other options
They needed a viable center in the playoffs too and he didn’t get or deserved much playing time. Doc said that if Krstic returns, he expects him to be better because he’ll be more acclimated to the system. That might be the case but he also has a track record of not being very good. Whether the Celtics need a center or not (and they do need size) Krstic is hardly going to be much of a factor. He’s more of just a big body and if he heads overseas or signs with another NBA team, he will be replaceable. Someone like Chris Johnson could have more of an impact than Krstic.
Instead of Krstic, I wish Ainge would have pressed for Aldrich to be in the deal, assuming he didn’t. I know Aldrich didn’t do much his rookie season but he was a fine player at Kansas and has the potential to be a fine rebounder and shotblocker off the bench. Maybe Ainge didn’t like him or wanted the immediate help Krstic could provide. It would just be nice to have someone like Aldrich’s size and youth on this team right now.
I guess what I'm saying is that before we say that he's no great loss
we need to be sure we have people we can get for the 5 position first (which is a hard guarantee, and quite complicated as well). He didn’t get much playing time in the playoffs due to him recovering from his injury and Doc opting to go with Baby thinking he would crack out of his slump. I like CJ as much as the next guy, but we know that his bulk isn’t enough to defend big guys.
Aldrich, however, is intriguing. Youth and size = Celtics’ lack
Good luck to him
Always seemed to do his best in the green.
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