What SEAL Training Can Tell you about Rondo and Bosh
by Green17 on May 9, 2011 10:44 AM EDT
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PrintThere are a dozen types that fail: the weight-lifting meatheads who think that the size of their biceps is an indication of their strength, the kids covered in tattoos announcing to the world how tough they are, the preening leaders who don't want to get dirty, and the look-at-me former athletes who have always been told they are stars but have never have been pushed beyond the envelope of their talent to the core of their character. In short, those who fail are the ones who focus on show.
Almost all the men who survived possessed one common quality. Even in great pain, faced with the test of their lives, they had the ability to step outside of their own pain, put aside their own fear and ask: How can I help the guy next to me? They had more than the "fist" of courage and physical strength. They also had a heart large enough to think about others, to dedicate themselves to a higher purpose.
I'm certainly not trying to trivialize the sacrifice, hard work and dedication of our military by comparing SEALs to guys who play a game for our enjoyment (so please don't make those comments), but the two passages above struck a familiar chord and to me, highlighted the juxtaposition of Elbow Game and Bosh going out Like a Bosh with a sore neck and..."jitters." It will be interesting to see how Bosh plays tonight and more importantly how much the crowd gets on him...
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I just hope that the boys play with same intensity that they showed on Saturday.
If they do, they win big. It’s that simple.
by longlivethe80's on May 9, 2011 10:56 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
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They should’ve played with that intensity more consistently in the first two games. Now we just spotted them a two game lead and gave them confidence. I don’t see us stealing a game on their floor, but that would be awesome.
I think it’s a a little too late and a 7th game would be going to Heat. The C’s aren’t handling them well at all
Enough confidence to get the C’s to play from behind now. I don’t see the C’s coming out of a 0-2 hole. Not many NBA teams have won coming from 0-2
You aren’t making much of an argument unless you have a response now…but probably not
Are you one of the JERKy boys?
Miami was shooting better than they had all season, on their own court, getting favorable calls, with the Celtics not playing up to par, not playing Celtic ball. And the games were still close.
It is still entirely feasable to take this in 6. Miami is a front running Faux-tough team, they will crumble with a game 4 victory and coming out strong in game 5.
by Warrior Spirit on May 9, 2011 2:33 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
They didn't have shaq
Now that Shaq is here, Baby doesn’t have to play center at all (or at least for very long). This makes the team VERY different, and for you sit up here and say that they didn’t have any intensity is just preposterous. The heat came out on a roll, playing their best games of their careers. Save the rhetoric and gimme a break. Calling people out like that sheesh…
Believe
Guess what. Shaq didn’t make a diff tonight
by vgarcia890 on May 9, 2011 9:57 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Shaq only played 3 minutes you doof
Believe
by Green Oracle on May 9, 2011 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Exactly
I believe you just made his point for him. Shaq has made NO difference in this series save maybe a brief emotional boost in game 3. He is unable to move at all, and Miami immediately figured out all they have to do is take it at him and he’ll be forced to foul because he can not move at all.
I, too, was hopeful Shaq could be a difference maker. Unfortunately, at this point in his career, that is merely wishful thinking.
by King Coebra on May 11, 2011 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions
Maybe, but remember, we've been down 2-1 before...
I’m confident that we can still win this. If KG plays anywhere close to he did in Game 2, the Heat are toast.
All the negativity in this town sucks. It sucks, and it stinks, and it sucks. - Rick Pitino
Ok, I think I can agree with this. We have been down this road before but still starting 0-2 in the hole is just difficult and the stats don’t support it. It’s very difficult to come back from.
I would’ve been much more confident if we split the first two games. And we had that chance, but….we didn’t capitalize
What is that?
You should come over and spar with me, I’ll even let you wear my gear…
How does that relate or help at all?
by Warrior Spirit on May 9, 2011 2:37 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
The fact that they started out 0-2 is meaningless now...
The only thing that matters is that they are down 1-2. As Roy Hobbs said, the C’s have been in this position before. If they win tonight, then the 0-2 start is even more meaningless. Personally, I could care less about the stats right now. What worries me is that Rondo (already a limited player) suffered a major injury on Saturday. He showed the heart of a warrior in coming back, but as we all know, the adrenaline and emotion of the game carried him through. After a day of rest, I am willing to bet that his arm is causing him much more pain. That is why I said that I hope the C’s come out with the same intensity they showed on Saturday; in particular the second half. If they bring that fire, I think they’ll not only win tonight, but win the entire series as well. If they don’t, I do not think they can match miami’s youth and talent. You have to remember that Delonte and Shaq are not at 100%.
by longlivethe80's on May 9, 2011 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree with this.
We really need for the rest of the team to emotionally ‘pick up’ for Rondo. Even if Rondo plays, I just can’t believe he’ll be as effective unless the rest of the team plays with fire and intensity and makes it impossible for the Heat to game Rondo’s missing arm.
I hope they avoid doing any retribution, instead focusing on winning. Winning the game is by far the most important thing here.
Any retribution that happens needs to be well-planned (to avoid suspension of any key players) and should be late in the game – that way you maximize the ’wait for it … wait for it …" in their heads.
NBA Officiating - Corrupt? Incompetent? Which is worse? Does it matter? It sucks.
Yes, now that my anger at Wade has relaxed a bit
I do not wish for retribution to possibly encroach upon suspension for any rotation player. I do hope they play him, hard, tight, physical, inuendo aside, keep it legal just piss him off even more. Body him up, get under his skin. He is liable to play angry or frustrated today, using that to our advantage could be more effective than a good slam anyway.
by Warrior Spirit on May 9, 2011 5:47 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
did bill buckner have the heart of a lion when the ball went thru his legs?
how about pedro in the 7th in 2003?
Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk
playing hurt doesn't always help your team -
that’s all i’m sayin’ ~
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Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk
whod you rather have
injured rondo
injured west
or arroyo who hasnt played a playoff game with the celtics
What worries me is Miami will have had a couple of days to prepare to play against an injured Rondo and West.
I don’t know if that time to prepare will make any difference at all. But I would have Arroyo ready to go if he’s needed.
And of course, Rondo’s left side may now be stiffer than that of the Tin Woodsman.
not my responsibility to answer -
- obviously they’re going with rondo / west -
however, what if rondo & west fail or hurt themselves further, and arroyo comes off the bench providing a great spark to a comeback which falls short -
Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk
Maybe Arroyo might provide something that neither West nor Rondo can provide...
I don’t know….something like a deep knowledge of what the other team is going to run????
by longlivethe80's on May 9, 2011 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Pretty sure even you know what they are going to run. Not too complicated.
by Warrior Spirit on May 9, 2011 3:41 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Even if Bosh plays acceptably
in the rest of this series, the Heat are in trouble should they move on. Would you really want Bosh anywhere near the ball in the 4th quarter of a close late series playoff game? It’s only going to get harder the further they go into the playoffs (hopefully this will be their last series this year of course). Lebron’s in the same boat to a certain extent but at least he’s been all the way to the finals.
funny thing is
bosh has as much talent as KG but NO heart. Zero.
that is the big difference. If we are to win this series that positions needs to be doninated by the Celtics.
lets get even tonight.
as much talent
as garnett is able to have on the dregs of his tank. Bosh is a marshmellow. or toothpicks glued together with marshmellow. byah.
i do agree, that the celtics go much further in the playoffs when garnett is winning his matchup. let’s get a victory tonight, c’s.
What are you smoking?
As much talent as KG?!
by Warrior Spirit on May 9, 2011 2:40 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Bosh is one Weird dude
Boston wins tonite and all of a sudden the heaties have a must win game on Wed
Sorry
I can’t stand military metaphors when talking about sports. It trivializes sports.
by thereallargejames on May 9, 2011 1:27 PM EDT reply actions
Interestingly, I had seen that Wall Street Journal article over the weekend.
It was a solid article, and was passed about my family for reasons having nothing to do with sports.
Another must win
Celtics have to win tonight or all the toughness and thrills from Game 3 will not mean much. Celtics womt come back from 3-1 deficit so its now or never. Dont want to go out in Round 2 just like the Lakers…
Rivers went on to dismiss the idea that this in any way resembles last season's sleepwalking through the final months of the regular season (when star players were shut down due to injuries, leading to multiple late-season losses).
"Nothing like this," said Rivers. "Last year I shut them down. They were injured. They’re not injured. They’re not playing well."
by warnerjohn on May 9, 2011 2:40 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Bosh should never have said what he said. He looks like a woman.
KG should smell blood with Bosh and go after him with a vengence. If they have to yank Bosh off him, who does Bosh cover? Pierce? There’s a beatdown waiting to happen if Paul can keep from dribbling off his damn feet.
Put Bosh on Rondo? No heart vs all heart. I’ll take heart over talent anyday.
4 HOURS 2 MINUTES UNITL 2-2
Wouldn't that be
more like 7 hours 2 minutes? I assume they actually have to play the game first.
I BELIEVE!!!!
I hate the Heat. I hate Miami. I’m extremely pissed and amped up and I’m assuming a victory. I have to. We all have to assume victory. If not, we’re done. We can definitely win this if we square it up. I don’t think we come back from down 3-1.
Speaking of Heart vs. No Heart...
When do we get to see that Rondo on James matchup that we saw a few months ago. That was fun…
by GreenInNYC on May 9, 2011 3:28 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Oh
You mean how rondo muging the crap out of James? Yeah that was fun. If they do try that matchup again, lebron is gonna go immediately to the post. Lucky for the C’s, Lebrons post game is still a work in progress. Rondo is not strong enough or big enough to handle him, especially with one arm.
by Heatallica on May 9, 2011 5:57 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Oh
You mean how rondo muging the crap out of James? Yeah that was fun. If they do try that matchup again, lebron is gonna go immediately to the post. Lucky for the C’s, Lebrons post game is still a work in progress. Rondo is not strong enough or big enough to handle him, especially with one arm.
by Heatallica on May 9, 2011 5:57 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Oh
You mean how rondo muging the crap out of James? Yeah that was fun. If they do try that matchup again, lebron is gonna go immediately to the post. Lucky for the C’s, Lebrons post game is still a work in progress. Rondo is not strong enough or big enough to handle him, especially with one arm.
by Heatallica on May 9, 2011 5:57 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Hey, it's Monday and I'm feeling kind of blah so I went to
Silver Screen and Roll and read last nights second quarter thread. Wow, now I feel great. What a bunch of losers even raging on Magic. I’ve got some news for them Magic is far far greater than Kobe.
Oh, and some Bulls fan comes on and says F*ck Rondo. Like anyone on their team could come back and pull off what Rondo did. Keep dreaming.
One other thing:
From the KG Abdul Jabbar post, I emailed the NBA about Wade running amok and compared the NBA to the WWE. After I submitted the email, a message flashed up that “We will respond to your letter.”
As of yet, I haven’t heard anything. It’s so blatant I don’t think they know how to even lie their way out of it.
there are rumours they are going to upgrade wades foul on rondo
to a flagrant 1 i believe.
They should, it certainly qualifies.
by Warrior Spirit on May 9, 2011 5:50 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
If you`re Jeff Green, and you saw what Rondo did...
This is the perfect time to realize that there are few things Celtic fans admire as much as heart.
He has a golden opportunity to “leave it all on the court” tonight and play the game of his life….win the crowd over, make people forget about the Perk trade.
Hope KG or the Captain point this out to him.
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