Insider rumor states Quisy's agent confirms Boston will be on the list of teams Daniels would play for next year.
"When the time comes, he's going to look at and explore all his options," Bartelstein told CSNNE.com. "But Boston is certainly a team he knows well, has a great amount of respect for and really enjoyed his time there."
So the question is, would you use the LLE to get him back?
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Seriously?
He played much better last year. But I don’t want a repeat of last season with him getting hurt and putting the team in a desperate position. I guess if Green is re-signed, we’re safe. But we need big guys, lots of big guys.
simul justus et peccator
It was a freaking injury.
There’s no reason to think it will repeat.
Just one of those things that happened, he got caught in just the right spot, and twisted in just the right way. You hear stories like that all the time, guy get’s in a fender bender accident, and the whiplash happens to twist his spine in a freak way, minor accident, major consequences.
Freak occurrence, minor bump, major consequences. He had the surgery to correct it, and there’s no reason to think history will repeat itself.
The question really comes down to, can he help the team, and is there a need for him. I would argue yes, he’s a very versatile player who can do a lot for any team. He’s able to play 3 different positions on both ends of the court. You just don’t get players like that everyday.
"Phil is obviously a good coach. You don't win that many games without being a damn good coach, ... Remember one thing: He's been very fortunate. He picks his spots. That's all I can say." - Red Auerbach
04 + 07 = 11
freak* injury, dang typo.
"Phil is obviously a good coach. You don't win that many games without being a damn good coach, ... Remember one thing: He's been very fortunate. He picks his spots. That's all I can say." - Red Auerbach
04 + 07 = 11
But he has these "freak" injuries every single season
he’s averaged 56 games played per season. I like him, he’s a good player, but he’s not reliable health wise.
by KY Celts fan on Jun 10, 2011 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions
True, but the question is if it's worth a chance.
I mean we can all agree in this team, since there’s no gaping hole on the wing/point anymore with West/Green here now, he’s not a badly needed asset. But at the right price, he’s a guy who can provide you incredible versatility.
A 6’6 player who can play at point is a huge asset to have any any team. He can cause havoc on opposing 1/2 guard, and pairing him with Delonte gives you two capable ball handlers on the court, and an absolutely devastating defensive back court. I think there are a ton of upside scenarios there, and worth the risk of seeing if he can actually manage to stay healthy for a season.
"Phil is obviously a good coach. You don't win that many games without being a damn good coach, ... Remember one thing: He's been very fortunate. He picks his spots. That's all I can say." - Red Auerbach
04 + 07 = 11
I concur that Daniels is worth thinking about.
He’s the rare bird who can play all three perimeter positions (PG, SG & SF) and not hurt you at any of them. That’s pretty valuable on a roster.
The key is to not get into a situation where we have to depend on his (or any single bench player’s) health.
Another way to look at it though is to figure that if we let any one of DWest, Wafer or Pavs go, then there is room on the roster for Quis.
A bench of Green, DWest, Quis, Wafer & Bradley gives you pretty solid coverage over the 1-2-3 positions.
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That's the trouble. He and DWest are both injury prone.
The C’s really can’t afford the high-risk DWest and Daniels AND untested Bradley.
If I Remember Correctly
He had a similar injury before. I think I read he was born with Spinal Stenosis. Not sure if the spinal canal or the exit opening of a nerve that has closed down. I also think I read he had surgery for this current injury. I like what Marquis does for this team, but I don’t think he should risk his health and future. As a fan I’d love to see him back. But as a person I don’t want to see him risk his health. Just to add—-If Marquis didn’t get injured I don’t think that late season trade would have been made. (just my opinion).
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Quis should consider his health
it was normal hard contact that took him down and he’s always been injury prone in his career, he should consider retirement and stay healthy for the rest of his life
depends
if he passes a physical and both sides are sure he can handle an NBA season, I’d take him back for the right $. I don’t think the LLE is the right $ though—I think vet min is appropriate considering his fragility.
In terms of skillset, a bench of West, Quisy, Green at the 1-3 spots is exceptionally solid. Bradley could develop 1 more year. Bring back Wafer if possible at the min. If Danny accomplishes that, I’d even accept bringing BBD back (for the right price) and have Danny really put his all into getting big men for this team. With two good big men for the bench, C’s are still contenders because the bench would give the starters some real rest during the season.
Since im banned from forums
Im glad ya’ll put this on here the answer is No dude is too injury prone nd I would rather go young and athletic im hoping we target JR Smith
I am just suprised that Quisy has a "list"
I mean, he should be happy if any team takes him at this point.
He played 100 games as a Celtic....gave us zero memorable moments!
Daniels is a “non-entity”
That’s not a fair statement. He wasn’t about doing ‘memorable’ things, he defended his position very well and was a more than solid back-up for pierce when he was healthy. Given his versatility at the 1-3 spots I’d have him back in a second.
by IsItTheShoes on Jun 10, 2011 8:53 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Quis was very valuable Celtic
Take away the Game 6 blowout win by LA….Doc let him play a total of SEVEN SECONDS during the entire 2010 Finals!
Didn’t watch him play this season before his injury?
by IsItTheShoes on Jun 11, 2011 6:43 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Titel 18 ...LOL...nice
I like Quisy…but “generally” a narrowing of the spine or similar type condition that ends up causing temporary paralysis DOES NOT GO AWAY….I am betting he does not end up passing a physical. I feel bad that this has happened to him but this sure seems to me be a repeatable and ongoing risk.
Is it Soup Yet?
He was a very "marginal-borderline" NBA player when healthy
Who would even consider signing him now?
No, he wasn't.
Not at all really. He struggled in Boston a bit, but before that he was a starter in Indiana, and a good one at that. Before that he broke out in Dallas and turned heads as a guy coming off the bench.
Actually, when he signed for an LLE in Boston, most people in the NBA thought it was the steal of the off-season, and that he was a borderline MLE type player.
But that’s ok, believe whatever you want.
"Phil is obviously a good coach. You don't win that many games without being a damn good coach, ... Remember one thing: He's been very fortunate. He picks his spots. That's all I can say." - Red Auerbach
04 + 07 = 11
Like I said.
He struggled in Boston. He clearly lost his confidence that year after the injury, and Tony Allen was playing very, very well.
But going by his body of work, and the fact that he was one of the most reliable bench contributors last year up until the injury, different story.
"Phil is obviously a good coach. You don't win that many games without being a damn good coach, ... Remember one thing: He's been very fortunate. He picks his spots. That's all I can say." - Red Auerbach
04 + 07 = 11
You could do a lot worse than having Daniels as your 8th or 9th rotation guy.
by IsItTheShoes on Jun 11, 2011 10:02 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
At quisy’s price and position, is there anyone else available who would be better value? From what you said, apparently there’s a dozen.
by IsItTheShoes on Jun 12, 2011 7:49 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I won't argue with that.
His health risks are a serious concern. I too am doubtful of his future career.
However, your assessments about his skills as a player (when healthy) – I could not disagree more.
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It won't happen
Quis is probably going to look for more then 1 year and no way we offer him 2.
Pass
I’d pass.
Give him a nice ovation when he comes to Boston with another team probably in street cloths due to his yearly long layoff. Nice role player but about as fragile as anyone in the NBA not named Greg Oden(whom I would take a chance on btw).
We need to be more athletic at the positions he plays anyway.
Is this it?
This is the best we can do with the LLE/MLE? I’d rather just save the money.
Daniels has a knack for running into people at high speed & crashing.
yes
I’d rather the devil I know than the devil I don’t!
when Quis is right he’s a PLUS
"Take it to the hoop, there's a dance involved." - DJ Tommy
if he signs for a delonte-like deal
why not? quite honestly, i can’t see anybody giving him more than that, given his injury history. as long as the doctors say he’s recovered from the spinal injury, yeah, i’d definitely sign him.
Bring him back
He’s good for our team
by CBleedsGreeN on Jun 10, 2011 9:15 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Bring him back!
He has a ‘list’? What teams do you think he would want to play for? I can see Boston as the only place he’d wanna play..
by farias on Jun 10, 2011 10:42 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
he has a lot of positive history with Indiana and Dallas as well.
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As 10th guy of the bench? behind Green/Pierce in SF and behind Allen/West in SG, sure worth the look.
by thatswhatshesaid23 on Jun 11, 2011 5:14 AM EDT reply actions
While Daniels and his agent would only take that if that were the best opportunity they could get...
they’re obviously not going to rule out the Celtics at this point or in the press.
First of all, that assumes the LLE still exists
He’s not the first guy I’d sign with the LLE, but if we missed on all those, maybe.
But I would be surprised if any team offered him more than the vet min. He’s coming off an injury where people were thankful that paralysis was not the ultimate result. He’ll need a season at the vet min to prove he’s healthy, and at that price the C’s should bring him back. I suppose if you’re allowed to split the LLE between multiple players, and you have a few dollars left after giving most of it to another player, then giving him the remaining dollars to seal the deal would be okay too.
Fair point.
You could very well be right. Given the injury risk, there might not be a team willing to risk more than the minimum. So if he serious about wanting to okay in Boston again, fair chance he would pick q minimum deal here over anywhere else. I would without question bring him back on a min deal, that’s a no brainer.
"Phil is obviously a good coach. You don't win that many games without being a damn good coach, ... Remember one thing: He's been very fortunate. He picks his spots. That's all I can say." - Red Auerbach
04 + 07 = 11
by Sizzlack on Jun 11, 2011 11:25 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
That's not entirely clear just yet.
I suspect that’s true, but at this point in time, we have 6 guys on the roster for next year. We will almost certainly extend Green so that makes 7. We then need to find 8 more bodies by the end of the summer.
I would agree that Quis is not on the high priority list, but nothing is completely clear yet.
Yes, shoring up the 4 & 5 positions has to be the top priority. But once that is done, we’ll need to backup the 1 & 2 spots and could still use a 3rd level depth at the 3. I suspect we’ll get all those elsewhere, but you never know until folks sign.
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James Jones would help …… Marcus Thornton and DeAndre Jordan ……That’s IT ….
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