Navigation: Jump to content areas:


Pro Quality. Fan Perspective.
Login-facebook
Around SBN: UFC 146 Results: Junior dos Santos TKO's Frank Mir

Staff Exit Interviews, Edition 1: Tom Bellinger

The season is over, the playoffs are done, and there is a new (non-Celtic) champion in the land. We here at CelticsBlog decided it was a good time to look back on the season that was 2010-2011, in a time that is far enough removed from the Playoffs to reflect without too much bitterness, but far enough away from 2011-2012 to keep us focused on the year that was. These are the Staff Exit Interviews.

Question 1: Forgetting for a second how the Finals actually turned out, how are you feeling about the Celtics loss in the second round?

Well, to be honest I still feel pretty angry about it. It wouldn't be fair to say I didn't see it coming. I thought the Celtics losing against the Heat was a possibility, just like I thought the Celtics losing to the Cavs last year in the playoffs was a possibility. But I just didn't...expect it.

When the Celtics were down 0-2, I could rationalize it. There is a reason the saying goes "A Playoff Series Doesn't Start Until A Team Loses At Home" (or wins on the road, depending on who is saying the adage). The Heat taking the first two games is perfectly reasonable. The Celtics took Game 3 in convincing fashion, and I was reinforced in my own beliefs about the green. 'This is going to go six games, and it started tonight', I remember thinking. Rajon Rondo was a hero, Kevin Garnett was a monster, and the Heat looked like who we thought they were.

Then the Celtics dropped Game 4, and I thought, "uh oh."

But it wasn't like I was really that disheartened. I didn't even really think the Celtics were 'on the ropes'. I thought they were in a bad spot, sure. I thought they had a steeper hill to climb than I would've liked, yeah, but I didn't feel like they were done. Not even with Rondo's left arm apparently useless, not even with Shaq done for the year (and apparently his career). It probably looked grim to others, but not really to me.

It was a time for true champions to grit their teeth and persevere, and that's fully what I expected the Celtics to do walking into Game 5.

Star-divide

I watched Game 5 in a bar in Portland, Maine called Foreplay. My brother works in the Old Port district, and he advised me that Foreplay would be just the right combination of blue-collar and Boston faithful that I would want..plus they had a good beer selection, and big TV's.

When I walked in there were maybe three other people at the bar, one bartender, and a few guys playing air hockey or fooseball or something on the other side of the room. I thought something was amiss when I heard the bartender cheer after a Dwyane Wade jumper. I should've known something was amiss when my Guinness was sour, and the Harpoon IPA I ordered next was just shy of skunky. I sat and watched Game 5 with the only bartender in New England who bet on the Heat, in a bar where nobody else really gave a crap about the Celtics, and it was fitting.

How do I feel about the Celtics loss to the Heat? Frustrated, annoyed, angry, even betrayed. You might say 'well it just happens, teams lose'. You might say 'We'll get em next year', but this wasn't like that. These Celtics didn't lose. They lost in 2009, but Kevin Garnett, their emotional and defensive leader was injured, and they still pushed the Eastern Conference Champs to 7 games with Glen Davis being the Celtics' most offensively gifted front-court player. I could swallow that, because I knew KG was coming back next season, and they still had all the pieces intact from their dominating 2007-2008 campaign.

The Celtics lost in a close seven game series to Los Angeles in the Finals in 2010. I could swallow that because even without their enforcer for Game 7, the Celtics still kept it close, and Perk would be back  the next season.

But this year was different. LeBron James, Wade, and Bosh took the Celtics in FIVE GAMES. The entitled, self-anointed champions made it look freaking easy. The NBA isn't real-life to a true fan. There isn't anything really all that rational about it..if we were all rational, we'd all be cynical front-runners whose allegiance goes to the team that 'plays the best basketball', and not really care which team won, as long as it was a good one.

But we're not rational when it comes to the Celtics, we're fans, and the Bad Guys got to win. And this wasn't like say..Empire Strikes Back, where everything looked lost, but you knew Luke and Leia were totally going to come back and avenge Han Solo and stuff. The Bad Guys won, and really they're only going to get better, while the Celtics are really only going to get older.

So how do I feel about the loss to the Heat this year? I dunno man, I'm coming to terms with it. Next question.

Question 2: What single event most defined the 2010-2011 season for you?

The Perkins trade. Its not even really close. People have gone over the motives, the possible outcomes and ramifications, and the fallout more than enough in the past few months. I don't need to go into any of that..but when I think back about the 2010-2011 season, I'll think of it as the year the Heat beat the Celtics in the playoffs, and the year the Celtics traded away one of their 'unbeaten starting five'.

Question 3: What was the single greatest positive you took from the 2011 season?

Well, let's figure out what it wasn't. It wasn't that the Celtics youth movement has promise. Jeff Green looks woefully under-qualified to be a significant starter on a top tier team, Rajon Rondo's play was more up and down than a sea-saw, and Avery Bradley was a bigger tease than the Legend Of Zelda Movie.

I'd say still that it was Kevin Garnett. KG should be just about done. One of these years, he's gonna show up for training camp, and you're just going to know within the first month that he's got nothing left..but after watching him this year and in the playoffs, I've talked myself into knowing that its not going to be next season. Kevin Garnett is almost done, but he ain't done yet.

Question 4: What was the single greatest disappointment of the 2011 season?

Shaquille O'Neal, but not because of anything that was really his fault (unless he could've conditioned more, but I'm not going to speculate there). Shaq was the single greatest surprise during the first part of the season where the Celtics were basically steamrolling through the league, and looking like the favorites for 2011 (along with the Lakers).

But the promise of Shaq had some disturbing fallout. It was one of the factors (as in the assumption that Shaq would be able to play significant minutes in the 2011 postseason) that enabled Danny Ainge to trade Kendrick Perkins, and based on Shaq's repeated five-year-plan, he was allegedly coming back to reprise his role in 2012.

Now, with Shaq retired, Jermaine O'Neal in who knows what state of health, and Nenad Krstic Back In The USSR (okay, that's not a huge loss), the Celtics are without a real viable, healthy option as a starting center heading into next season. While Jermaine O'Neal played well enough during the playoffs and late last season, I'm not encouraged heading into next year.

But if Shaq could've gotten healthy for the playoffs, and played 60 games next season, I think we'd all be drinking a different color of smoothie.

Question 5: Let's talk Finals. Did you enjoy seeing the Heat fall flat? Why?

I listened to Game 6 of the Finals on Sirius Radio (do we get free stuff for plugging them? Dibs!) and after it was all over I put on Facebook: "On the (crappy) side...this ain't the celtics celebrating. on the bright side, it isn't all the miami 'fans' that seemed to pop up since mid-may. good for dirk, and kidd."

And that's basically still how I feel about it. Was there an element of schadenfreude from me after the buzzer sounded (and during LeBron's ridiculous posturing and pouting the next day)? Sure. I'm glad Dallas won for their own sake too. Dirk has always been on of my favorite players, and Rick Carlisle grew up about 10 miles away from me. Plus, I've never harbored the annoyance or anger towards Mark Cuban that others seem to, so basically its a good thing that Dallas won for me.

But let's not get it twisted...it did not lighten the blow of the Celtics' own loss. The Heat just absolutely manhandled the Celtics after Rondo went down, but I firmly believe that the Celtics healthy could've beaten the Mavericks, and the Heat.

I guess the fact that Dirk Nowitzki, with his cast of 'too olds', 'too smalls', and 'washed ups' could rise to the occasion and beat the Heat in some ways just twists the dagger because Paul Pierce with his cast of 'too olds', 'too smalls', and 'washed ups' could not. Yeah I was happy Dirk Nowitzki and the rest got a ring, but I'm more frustrated that Pierce and company did not.

Last Question: If you could sum up the 2010-2011 Celtics' NBA season in 10 words or less, what would they be?

The best laid plans of Danny Ainge, oft go awry.

Comment 35 comments  |  1 recs  | 

Do you like this story?

Comments

Display:

I tend to agree

in other years we lost, this year we got beat, that is fundamentally jarring as a fan

Faith and Sports - an essay by Jeff Clark

by Jeff Clark on Jun 20, 2011 7:21 AM EDT reply actions  

Takeways

#1. PP and Ray in tandam can’t contain younger, quicker, physically dominant backcourts (ie Wade/Bron). Or significantly assert themselves offensively vs same. Nor confident that young Jeff Green is the answer. Wafer isnt.

#2. For whatever reason, KG and Rr cant/wont pick up the slack. KG because he doesnt work inside out like Dirk. Rondo? dude is the sphinx, hard to figure, but some combo of no outside game, injuries, mental stuff. Anyhow, like Simmons said he put stuff on the table but takes stuff off the table too, so its a wash. Sell?

#3. Club could seriously use a shot-swatter like Chandler/Camby or a post scorer like Aldridge/big Al. What we dont need are more undersized Leon Ryan Baby Goodys. Not that Im hopeful that DA can resist.

"Celtics bring order and structure to a chaotic world"

by Tenacious D on Jun 20, 2011 7:29 AM EDT reply actions  

I was also optimistic even though they were down 2-0

And of course after it became 2-1. I really thought they would keep the momentum going, make it a long series, force the heat into pressure situations and figure out what to exploit. Basically what the Mavs did, but obviously it didn’t work out this year. Liked the answer to the last question, things definitely went awry even if Ainge and some hardcore Ainge supporters won’t admit it. Hopefully Danny can make it up to us by drafting well.

by kg2128 on Jun 20, 2011 8:40 AM EDT reply actions  

The C's were too old and not playing tough enough or well enough together.

We were already seeing a rerun of last year’s playoffs, with the Big Three too exhausted to last through the 4th.

But none of that mattered: our most important player was so injured he was playing with one arm. Whether or not it was tied behind his back, the C’s weren’t beating the Heat or Chicago or Dallas without a healthy Rondo.

by clover on Jun 20, 2011 9:18 AM EDT reply actions  

Stopping bringing facts into the conversation......

some people would rather use heart and emotion as determining factors as to why the Celtics lost. In much the same way, there are some who would suggest that Dirk willed his team to a championship. But, they can’t explain why he couldn’t will them out of the 1st round of the playoffs with HCA far too often.

Btw, Carlisle was the true MVP of that series. By starting Barea in game 4 and subsequently forcing Lebron and Wade to shoot more jumpers by committing to a zone defense, Carlisle gave his team the blueprint to beat the Heat. They just went out and executed.

by 17wasEZ on Jun 20, 2011 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Disagree

If you call never getting out of the first round in 3 years ‘a top tier’ performance, than I guess you’re right.

"Shaq is like paradise, man," Garnett said. "You ever wash your sheets and then go outside and hang them out, and the sun dries them? You ever smell the sheets? That’s what Shaq is, Shaq is like,"
Follow me on twitter

by Tom Bellinger on Jun 20, 2011 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ainge's moves are best for the team moving forward

I know that the Perk trade was predicated on Shaq being healthy. The team was virtually unbeatable when Shaq was healthy and Rondo was having the best year of his career when Shaq played. The odds seemed very low that Shaq would not be able to return so Ainge did the smart thing. He got a potentially solid player in Green (give him some time) and a draft choice in the low teens in a good draft year (2012) to begin the rebuilding process while believing the present team could still be competitive. He also set up the team to have major cap space in 2012. Ainge is rebuilding on the run which is hard to do but because he is such a good GM with vision (see trading a bunch of potential for Ray and KG) that he can pull it off. So in 2012, he will have cap space, two first round draft choices, Rondo, Paul and the possibilities of signing KG and Ray to friendly contracts. Of course, he can use any/all of the above to also make a trade. The last thing Anige or the fans in Boston want is to revisit Lottery Land. Ainge has proven he can be trusted.

by ramana on Jun 20, 2011 9:30 AM EDT reply actions  

Ah

Being a Clippers fan, I hope that the pick is not that low. We are hoping to make the playoffs next year ( lol I know right-The Clippers, and our goal is to win at least 45 games, probably putting our pick in the high teens.

Of course, that could all fall through due to injury, but I wouldnt sleep on that pick being a great one yet.

by NewCavsfan on Jun 20, 2011 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, Danny traded Perk because he's planning to land Dwight.

Instead of letting Perk walk this summer and get nothing in return, he traded him for a guy (Green) that has athleticism and speed. Something the Celtics desperately need. And he knew this team could still compete with JO/Nenad/Shaq, unfortunately, they were injured. He also planned on the future Big 3 of Rondo, Green and Howard. Yes, the Perk trade blew the season, but it’s a great move going forward. With Pierce, Allen and Garnett aging, he’ll try to get another Big 3 in Boston (It could be a Big 6 if we get Dwight before the current Big 3 retire).

by Celtics own the refs on Jun 20, 2011 9:42 AM EDT reply actions  

Are you basing this on any semblance of evidence or are you just presenting your opinion as fact?

by IsItTheShoes on Jun 20, 2011 9:53 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Great Post

I just wanted to add my very humble opinion about the Heat. This is as good as they are ever going to be. Wade is 29, oft injured and can’t string together two monster performances in a row. By the time playoffs roll around next year, he will be 30. His prime is ending. Perhaps quicker than most pundits think as he seems to slow down for a few games after he has to play hard. LeBron and Bosh are in their primes, and we can see where their upside is. They have 3-4 more years of improvements, but the improvements will be minor and will not make up for the diminishing skills of Wade.

You can count me in that camp that Miami’s window is also closing, and as they are presently constructed they don’t have the financial flexibility to change their fate.

by RickyD Fan on Jun 20, 2011 10:00 AM EDT reply actions  

hope you are right but you probably are not

The Heat are going to be strong for the next several years. The only piece
they are missing is a decent center. They are beatable however – no reason to
fear them yet.

by McCracker on Jun 20, 2011 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

More than usual, we needed to be lucky.

Well before the season started, everyone knew we were near the end of The Window. The one hope was that we might squeak by with some luck. There was no way of knowing what Perkins would be able to deliver come the playoffs. But the O’Neal brothers came in and we rolled the dice. Daniels went down, Shaq stayed down, and that pretty much was it – with Rondo’s dislocated elbow being the final blow as we crashed to the mat. Sometimes luck isn’t with you.

by no kidding on Jun 20, 2011 10:14 AM EDT reply actions  

My Thoughts

As to the finals I just think the Heat, as a game plan, wore us down physically by continually attacking the basket and we were unable to stop that. I also think the Heat, late in games were forced by us to take difficult shots which they continued to make. At the same time we weren’t able to score, alot of which was due to good Miami defense at the end of games. A few made shots by us and a few missed by Miami could have given a totally different picture.

I didn’t like us going into the playoffs. I still thought that if Shaq could play like he did at the start of the season we could have gone to the finals. But I thought injuries which lead to lack of continuity on the court and to fatique, especially of KG were they main reasons we lost. The screwed up play at the end of game four (I believe) which could have given us the win as opposed to going into overtime (when we wouldn’t have a chance) was a sign of all the physical to mental fatique. That is a play that worked for us all year and we screwed it up badly. Some credit should be given to James for making Pierce get the ball further out than was wanted, but there was plenty of time for him to get in the right place to get the play going.

Another reason I think we lost was the poor play of BBD. He looked hurt or tired or both, but he gave us nothing. Also, I thought DWest played great, but was never near 100%.

The trade didn’t help or hurt. Although I love Perk and I think we could have played better with him because of his team defense and his knowledge of the plays, I don’t think he would have made a difference in the light of all else going on. I thought the trade hurt us in that players find it hard to adjust to this team so late in the season, especially because of their schedule and lack of practice time. We got off to a good start with the new guys who probably just played when they got here. Kristic looked great. But, then as they started getting used to our system, which was totally different from where they came from, they started to think and that is bad. They never did get into a real groove, especially Kristic who also got himself injured.

As to Jeff Green, I wouldn’t judge him on what we saw. He has skills and he’s just coming in at a time when he is really ready to learn how to play winning basketball. I think he will be quite good for us in the future, especially with a training camp under his belt and the mentoring by our vets.

I hated the trade, but thought it had to be done. When Marquis got hurt, that totaled our bench, especially with Davis forced to play starter minutes. With fatique a problem, I thought it more important to bring in someone to help the bench (Green) than to have Perk who was just overcoming an injury and got injured again. It usually takes the next season for a player with that injury to come back. Also, Kristic showed early signs that he could make up for some of Perk’s absence with his offense and rebounding (which he didn’t show before), but that didn’t work out.

Tommy Heinsohn said at the start of the season that we could have won the championship with the team we had on paper IF we stayed healty. I think that’s the story in a nutshell.

Going forward I see problems. We really don’t have a reliable Center and I think we only have 7 players under contract (and that’s including Green). I don’t think BBD will be back. The draft looks terrible and there aren’t many free agents who could have a great impact on the team. Plus, we still don’t have lots of money to spend. Danny will need to find an impact player we can afford and will have to fill in the bench with minimum contract players as he’s done since 2008. That’s going to be tough to do.

"I don't come to play, I come to WIN"--Larry Bird
"Criminally Negligent Officiating"--Tommy Heinsohn

by TrueGreen on Jun 20, 2011 10:24 AM EDT reply actions  

your thoughts= REALISM

Something you dont see real often on here. “Another reason I think we lost was the poor play of BBD. He looked hurt or tired or both, but he gave us nothing.” I think he is just too out of shape I have compared pictures of him from 2010, the start of last season, and what he looked like when the playoffs started. I think his main problem was weight.

“Going forward I see problems. We really don’t have a reliable Center and I think we only have 7 players under contract (and that’s including Green).”
 Between Pierce, Allen, Rondo, Jermaine, KG, and Bradley you are already looking at $64,377,513. Add in Green’s $5,908,641 qualifying offer, and no one should expect Ainge to bring in anyone who is going to make a huge impact. Like you said problems. I want Tyson Chandler on the roster next season, but thats just not possible.

What do you think about Chris Douglas-Roberts? He is young athletic, and would come cheap. I know the 4 and 5 are problem spots but another young wing player couldnt hurt if brought in for 0.9 million a season. As far as the 4 and 5 spots go it will be vets brought in to fill them up. So if they could get another young wing player that could run with Rondo, and Green wouldnt it be a good idea? Rondo at the point, Roberts at the 2, and Green at the 3 looks good to me.

by CoachBullins on Jun 20, 2011 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

In Answer

1. Chris Douglas-Roberts—I don’t know him.
2. On Big Baby: I’m not sure weight was the problem. He came to training camp in great shape and looked like he really worked on his game. He was great at the start of the season when the team was “intact”. Then I think he missed a few games because of a knee problem. I also read that he has a “weight clause” in his contract. I also think he may have started thinking “free agent contract”. Scoring = money, Defense doesn’t (maybe in his mind). So he may have had his own agenda going the second half of the season. I really just don’t know what happened to him. My guess is that he had to play more minutes and more of them at center and that fatigue could have been the problem. He just looked like he couldn’t get an inch off the ground and that’s why I thought he may have been injured.

"I don't come to play, I come to WIN"--Larry Bird
"Criminally Negligent Officiating"--Tommy Heinsohn

by TrueGreen on Jun 20, 2011 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was disappointed to by their second round exit

So many things went wrong during the BOS VS MIA series. The Celtics had a few things against them; no HC, injured Shaq, Rondo, Jermaine, Kristic and West, big baby playing poorly, inconsistency from the Celtics bench, bad weak side defense against Wade and Lebron and the refs.

I think had the Celtics won games 4 and 5, because both games they led during the 4 quarter the series would of turn in their favor, but sadly the C’s couldn’t close out both games. I think had the Celtics played the way they did in the Knicks series they could of made it pass the Heat and to the conference finals. But the Heat lost anyways! lol

by C'sFanfrmNy on Jun 20, 2011 11:38 AM EDT reply actions  

Agree mostly with True Green's post...and...

1. Danny knew Perk was not coming back after this year and, was injured at the time of the trade and MIGHT not have been back this year. And Perk did not play well for OKC. Not just the fourth quarter either….just not well period.

2. Davis hurt us the most. I’m so glad he will be gone. I hate his attitude of “I’ve the ball…it’s my ball…I’m gonna keep it and I’m gonna shoot it regardless of who or how many are tryin’ to guard me”.

3. Of course it really hurt us to have RR hurt. That was Wade’s best play of the entire playoffs…putting RR down. BUT, we were also hurt by D West’s injury! Losing your point guard, 2nd best defender and 3td best rebounder, and then his replacement’s injury was the killer.

4. I guess I’m the only one who watched all of Green’s games and plays since the trade. Yes he didn’t play like LeBum, but he wasn’t that bad either. He was vastly better then Davis.

5. Yes PP and RA didn’t do a whole lot offensively, but they had GREAT athletes defending them. We knew going in that Paul and Ra were going to be outgunned and we needed to win the1, 4 and 5 spots. We didn’t.

by Dipper on Jun 20, 2011 12:03 PM EDT reply actions  

On Green

I think I heard or read that in Green’s time here he was the best scorer off the bench that we’ve had since ‘08, that’s number of points and includes Eddie House. Not sure if this is true or not. There’s no question he needs to improve his game. Buit he seems to have the skills and attitude to want to do it. He also needs to build his upper body strength. This would help him in all aspects of his game, especially near the basket.

"I don't come to play, I come to WIN"--Larry Bird
"Criminally Negligent Officiating"--Tommy Heinsohn

by TrueGreen on Jun 20, 2011 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

on points 1 and 4

Point 1: pure speculation on your part. C’s could offer only a limited amount of money during the season. they could offer more when the season ended. There was no way Perk was going to accept that tiny contract and Danny knew it. I’m pretty sure that if Danny offered a competitive contract to Perk after the season, he had a very good chance to sign Perk. Perk loved being a Celtic and made no secret about it.

Point 4: really? you’re the ONLY one that watched Green games and play during the season? and how to do arrive at that conclusion—>because people found him very underwhelming and that’s a contradiction of your opinion? oh please.

by slamtheking on Jun 20, 2011 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

It is what it is

It sucks and still stings to think about the three vets, Pierce, Allen, and KG going out like that, and knowing their time on the court is coming to an end sooner than later makes it suck that much more. I can only hope a miracle happens and there are no real injuries next season. Its been great watching our four starters over the last few years. I just hope KG and Ray sign for small dollars and stay on till 2014 and help the team get to a good point before they hang it up. These guys gave us hope, and # 17 after so many hopeless years. They made the team relevant again, and seems like the Celtics will be relevant for years to come. Its on Rondo now! I have said it before and several said he cant do it, but its time for Rondo to turn around point to his back and say hop on guys I will get us there. I have put last season in the rear view, and I am hoping the future is bright. I’m going to keep the faith no matter what. Our starting four can still get it done with the kind of help they need, retire with one more ring, and give Boston # 18. I’m staying loyal to the group that made Celtic basketball matter again.

by CoachBullins on Jun 20, 2011 12:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Eyes on Dwight the whole time?

I am starting to think that Ainge had Dwight Howard in his plans before
the Perkins trade. Ainge was looking towards the future: Shaq filling in along
with J.O. for 2011, a potential lockout for 2012, and Howard a free agent in 2012.

Ainge did not want to lock up cap space with Perkins so Howard could be signed.

Howard mentioned last week that he would be working out with Doc and Rondo
this summer so we CAN get our hopes up about Howard becoming a Celtic.
If Howard does come to Boston next year then the Perkins trade will be forgotten
forever.

 “The best is yet to come and won’t that be nice.”

by McCracker on Jun 20, 2011 12:20 PM EDT reply actions  

what Ainge was thinking

I am only guessing, but I think Ainge was thinking about how to continue
keeping Boston at the top for years to come when he traded Perkins.

Perkins still was not fully recovered from his knee injury and Ainge was
not going to gamble big money on a player that might not ever be 100% again.

Ainge, dreaming of D. Howard, was saving money for a couple of wing players
(Rondo and Green) to complement Howard.

by McCracker on Jun 20, 2011 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ainge And Ownership

I don’t think Danny “fears” anything that ownership thinks. Ownership does what Danny suggests to them. Danny only suggests spending money for value. As to not being able to pay Perk in the future, I’m not sure this was really a consideration (it was in the media and on this blog). From what I understand the C’s were only able to offer him an extension at a very low salary, which I’m sure they knew he could not accept. OKC seems to have been in the financial situation where they could offer more. For the amount OKC paid Perk, I think Danny could have and would have matched it. I’m also not sure if Danny was worried about Perk physically. He has had alot of injuries and we really don’t know the extent of his knee injury.

As to sentimental towards Perk, we all were, including Danny. I heard Danny talk about this on some show. He told Perk about the trade before Perk heard it from somewhere else and he said they were BOTH crying.

"I don't come to play, I come to WIN"--Larry Bird
"Criminally Negligent Officiating"--Tommy Heinsohn

by TrueGreen on Jun 20, 2011 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just To Add

How effective would Perk be for the Celtics after the “Big Three” retire or lose their games. The same could be said for Rondo. We need to be ready to pounce when these players retire and have lots of money available in case impact players are to be had. Rondo and Green would essentially be the building blocks for the future, but they will need high calibre players with them. I don’t know if Perk’s future salary would have played a role in this.

"I don't come to play, I come to WIN"--Larry Bird
"Criminally Negligent Officiating"--Tommy Heinsohn

by TrueGreen on Jun 20, 2011 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

The money will not be there to sign Howard and bring in good enough help to go along.

There is already $29,421,145 tied up in the 2012-2013 season Give Howard some thing like 18 million per season, and you are looking at over 47 million for just 4 players. Factor in the new CBA that will not be good for the team money wise, and there is no way Danny could bring in good enough players to reach the finish line. Realisticly getting Howard dosent look, there is no point in bringing in a big name without enough money to put enough talent around him to win it all. Howard couldnt lead Orlando to a title, and he will not be able to lead Boston to one. He is a great center but his skill is all he has to offer. I dont see the drive or killer instinct of a champion in him. I dont want to see the team spend years trying to build around Howard like Orlando has done, and it just never be enough.

by CoachBullins on Jun 20, 2011 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bob Ryan made...

…similar comments about the bench when Danny acquired KG; then came Posey, House and PJ Brown. Roll players will always be available, you just need the right bait (Howard) to attract the correct bench players.

by Little D on Jun 20, 2011 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

teams win championships not players

Were Moses Malone and Dr. J. without the killer instinct before pairing together
to form one of the best teams ever? Howard, teamed with Rondo, Pierce and
a few other good players could be good enough to win a championship.

You may be right on the other point – there may not be enough money to
sign Howard. We don’t know what the new CBA is either.

by McCracker on Jun 20, 2011 1:39 PM EDT reply actions  

I get the very strange feeling that Dwight will stay in Orlando

Which is highly ironic. I mean, his team is awful, yet he clearly has some loyalty to them and to the fans, so I personally dont think he will cast aside the Magic so quickly.

I am not sure if there are any decent cheap centers available. Nazr Mohammed is, if you call him a center, but the only two really big centers out there are Chandler and Deandre, and I think both are resigning.

by NewCavsfan on Jun 20, 2011 5:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Comments For This Post Are Closed


User Tools

CelticsBlog is a growing interactive community dedicated to providing fresh, comprehensive coverage of the Boston Celtics.

FanPosts

Community blog posts and discussion.

Recent FanPosts

Mchale_small
Can the C's Cool Down the Heat?
Small
Fourth Quarter of Game 7: A Glimpse of the Future with Rondo?
Small
Is Rondo out of his mind? Or just on some other level?
Celticslogo_small
The All Idiot Team
Giflogocolorsmall_small
Just Like Old Times...
Images_small
What Philly Fans Are Saying
Ray_breaks_record_3_small
Last chance
Small
If this is it....
Small
Any Havlicek Signs in Martins Ferry, OH?
Small
MVP's in Game7

+ New FanPost All FanPosts >


CEO

Shamrock-blk-trans_small Jeff Clark

Authors/Editors

Hoosiers-dvdcover_small Roy_Hobbs

300h_small Wide Load

Big_4_small Jimmy Toscano

Leon_powe_small Green17

Ud_small Tom Bellinger

Grawful3_small Kiorrik

Authors/Mods

1_koolaid_avi_small FLCeltsFan

Po3_small Master Po

Images_small Bent

Green_avatar_small Fafnir

Small Tom Halzack

N23879518902_8484_small Jon Duke - CSL

Small jose3030

5bill_small Jack Jemsek

Small wjsy

Small Ryan Desmarais

250_small Brendan O'Hare

1119816_small JoshZavadil

Small TLayman

Small Anthony_Bruzzese

Small theoriginalhagrid

Sheed_small evansclinchy

Moderators

Photo_14_small Steve Weinman

Too_much_coffe_man_small Edgar

Small Chris72

Small thirstyboots18

Small CfanMissippi