Lather, Rinse, Repeat - Another Comeback Falls Short

this sucks

held the Bulls to 87 points, I’d say the defense is still somewhat solid. But there is no scoring. We need to get some scoring.

Thats about it. DENG OWNS PIERCE. I like pierce but it seemed him was forcing his offense which was killing out late run. Pietrus was looking good so pierce should have passed the ball! to me it seemed like he was playing some hero ball. Sad.

What’s this stuff about DA being fired? That’s garbage. Its not his fault our players are getting old.

It’s obvious this team is not championship worthy. Question is, what to do now?

..and let go of kg/ray ray/ for cap space nxt year..

Will danny continue to be content to leave it to doc to rearrange the chairs on the deck of the titanic?

Kg was going to bully Noah but he ran out of gas

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEaqbv3WuF0

I would simply because of the age factor

the lack of any real training camp is killing us. we had lots of good looks that didn’t fall. given that we’re older, we simply don’t have our legs under us yet. it stinks, but its not like the offensive execution is bad. my guess is the team will start playing much better by the end of this month. the lockout didn’t hurt us, but the lack of any real prep time for the season is killing the team right now.

I thought pietrus was good on both sides of the ball and in my opinion I would have kept pierce put towards the end and went with rondo, allen, pietrus, kg and bass

The bottom line is you can’t be asking bill Walton to play starters role and minutes on the 86 Celtics, you know what I mean?

Well there isn’t much else to say after this latest debacle.

After a day of rest, playing at home once again and the Celtics come out with yet another PUTRID start to the game, scoring only 13 points in the first quarter and 33 for the first half.

How can a team led by one of the best coaches in the NBA, and having 3 HALL OF FAMERS and a current all star in the starting lineup come out in such lethargic fashion night after night?

Not sure what the latest excuses will be after tonight but there isn’t much else for the team to say right now. It’s getting tiresome hearing from Doc and the players about what they need to do without any semblance of executing those things.

The Celtics have morphed into a pathetic offensive team which is hard to fathom given the talent on the roster.

And this was an easier part of the schedule during this compressed season. Playing at home with plenty of rest/practice time feeds right into the veteran make up of the Celtics. If this is the best we can expect under favorable conditions then it’s going to be a long and painful season…

Their time will come and it will be soon in the next one or two games.

All they need is a strong start. They need to come out of the gates hard. Allen and Rondo are our best players right now.

Pierce is the most notable problem player-wise. He’s slow on D, and his shots are not falling. He can’t depend on fouls to give him some momentum because the refs aren’t giving them to him. Get back to Ubuntu and the shots will eventually fall. Either he’s still hurting or he’s out of shape or both.

Not so sure about JO either, although he has had flashes of his old self but very few and far between.

I think taking KG out at the time in the 4th was a bad decision, as his shots were finally falling.

Pietrus, Bass and Dooling can all be effective off the bench.

Our offense was strongest when our D was at its best. That 3rd quarter comeback was not a flash in the pan one time deal. If we start games like we come out in the third quarter you’ll see the elite squad we expect to see and we’ll get those wins. It starts on the defensive end.

Moore and Johnson need to play. Give them more time! As good as Bradley is defensively, Moore and Johnson can help us offensively.

Call me an optimist but the fan in me doesn’t believe it’s time to give it up this early in the season. This is training camp, summer league and preseason right now, regardless of the fact it’s the season. Things will pick up soon, I can feel it.

let’s see, tomorrow is the end of a back-to-back series so most likely a loss. 4-7
After that, OKC. Very good team. a loss 4-8.
After Toronto: even after beating them twice in the preseason, I’m can’t see predicting a win here. how sad is that.

-Blur

Hard to believe this is a team comprised of 3 future hall of famers and an additional all star with a top NBA head coach.

In a nutshell the Boston Celtics of this season are a team that can’t start games well and also fails miserably in crunch time against good opposition. They manage to play well for spurts but once the opposing team turns it on the Celtics wilt.

Tonight there was an 8 1/2 minute stretch with no baskets - for a professional basketball team that is inexcusable. To score 25 first half points in one game and follow it up with a pitiful 33 the next game is horrific. Hard to fathom that with the offensive talent starting games for the Celtics that they are producing scoring at a level which would make one think it’s a group of D leaguers on the floor.

One bad quarter, one bad game, one bad start, one bad late game failure can be explained away as a fluke. To see the same things happening night after night shows there is something much more serious at work here…

Rondo and Ray. The rest = NBDL. The Celtics are starting to become the laughing stock of the league…. to the extent they laugh at old guys, anyway.

Strange thing…. I haven’t seen Garnett jump and take a rebound down with two hands yet. Every attempt is one-handed. What is that about?

Anyway, to talk about this team and “championship” in the same breath is now officially ridiculous. Sure, things might improve…. but it’s hard to see how.

These games have been over before halftime. Every time a guy happens to accidentally wander into a rebound it may as well be a MIRACLE and we lay enough bricks to renovate the Statehouse. This team needs to stop watching Rondo and STEP UP.

By the time the second half rolls around we have already put ourselves in such a sorry spot that we need to mount some kind of mythological comeback to even come close. FIX THE FIRST HALF, no more 25 or 30 point embarrassments.

Lastly and I know people have differing opinions but I happen to believe Chris Wilcox can be a presence around the rim and we need that desperately. He played well tonight, I say give him a few more minutes because he helped the team in our second half run.

Okay so we lost to the best team in the leauge right now. Playing with the bet player. And has been having thier best start in 15 years. We clawed back from a 20 pt deficit. You think if the big 3 got traded we couldve kept the game close with who? OJ Mayo and who else? Cmon have some loyalty to guys who gave you banner 17. Its not like KG still has a 10 year contract with the Cs. He and ray have about a hundred games left in thier careers and you “fans” suddenly dont want them cos thier old? Sheesh. Oh and please tell me what are we gonna get in return for the big 3 im just really puzzled if you think they are really that bad what makes you think we can get a dwight howard for them? Oh yeah if your gonna bring up Red again for not trading guys when he shouldve how many championships did he give Boston again?

He keeps using old legs. Lots of young players just sitting in there.

is ignoring the last 4 years of excellent coaching after only 10 games this year. more importantly… who is out there that you think is better?

Look like long johns with knee pads patched on or superhero outfits that someone forgot to take off

Well this is the 2nd time. Good thing though is he is obviously trying to be aggressive and show flashes of energy.

However aside from the usual rebounding woes, it was another display of our weak inside defense. The Bulls were penetrating the paint at will!

Starting Garnett at center was a new one. But no…. he can’t play center. Boston was certainly punished for even thinking KG can control the middle.

I am more worried about KG. He seems to have no confidence at all out there. He has this facial expression of doubt on the court. Could he be second-guessing his ablilities at this point?

I love seeing Rondo be Rondo!

In my opinion the regular season will be a hyper-extended training camp for the Celtics before the playoffs. I am sure Doc is applying very hard practices and it is a difficult thing to make shots with muscle sores. They will play better and that’s for sure.

That said, I do not see the Celtics winning a playoffs series against the Heat or Chicago even in a great shape. The same situation with defensive rebounding. They are just too old and will not start jumping higher. Simple as that. We desperately need more toughness at the center position and I think Danny should look in this way considering making potential trades.

I had to stop watching after the first half, mostly because I could not take JVG’s endless babble, more specifically his riding on Lebron’s jockstrap. I didn’t realize Lebron was playing in this game but for reasons unknown, he seemed to be a favorite topic of the worst announcer in professional sports.

And of course painful for other reasons. It’s like Rondo is playing at fast speed and 4 other guys stand and watch. When I checked the stats at the end of the 3rd and Rondo was the leader in points, rebounds, assists and steals, I knew this wasn’t a team…YET. What’s next? Rondo has to lead in blocks too?

I liked Bass starting for no other reason than to shake up the cob webs and dust that is all over this team. But it didn’t help.

The third quarter, at least from the stats and description I read, proved we can still dominate in spurts. What was said in the locker room? Was it Rondo’s anger over the charging call and technical. Something kicked it but there wasn’t enough gas left. We had dug our hole too deep.

Is PP more hurt than we know? He was good to go the first few games. Now it’s like there are lead weights on his shoes. This is not the PP we have ever seen unless he’s hurt. He was timid (or winded) on his drives. The balls he usually slams home with authority were missed half-hearted lay ups. Maybe it is lack of conditioning but I’m a little scared at what I see.

It’s going to be a long season, Celtics fans. Hope everyone has the fridge stocked with your favorite alcoholic beverage!

I saw this coming. I said we were too old to be considered a contender to start the season. Losing Jeff Green was a huge blow because he was one of the few elite athletes on a roster devoid of elite athletes in a league that is owned by athletes.

This team to me is the inverse of the 2006-07, Paul Pierce and the not ready for prime time players. Now we’re Rajon Rondo and the past their prime players. I’m just don’t surprised or alarmed by this at all. It is what it is.

This is year five of a 3 year plan. What do you guys expect. Those calling for Doc and Danny’s heads are way off base to me. This was going to happen the moment we tied ourselves to the again BIg Three. It actually took a couple of years longer to happen then most thought it would when we first put them together thanks mostly to the development of Rondo.

It’s not a lack of effort. They’re busting their humps out there. They’re just too slow, so they don’t get to lose balls and their defensive rotations are a step slow. They have no lift, so they don’t get enough rebounds and cannot protect the paint. They have relied up being a jump shooting team for the past several seasons but now the jumpers aren’t falling with nearly enough consistency.

Enjoy the last couple of months of a team that has brought Celtics fans so much and restored the pride to a once proud franchise after 2 decades of futility. Some of these guys wont be here after the dead line.

It is now time for Doc and Danny to prove their worth and see if they can rebuild this thing. They have EARNED the right. It wont happen over night so fans better be patient or they are going to be miserable and have no one to blame but themselves for it.

lol.

KG, Truth, and Ray are OLD (by NBA standards)……once you reach their age you can go into STEEP decline at ANY moment.

I doubt any team with take KG’s or Truth’s contract so we may have to cut one of them and trade Ray for good prospects or picks to a playoff contender at the deadline.

Bottom line: we need to get younger and Ainge knows that. He is one of the best GM’s in the league. Don’t panic; some people expected this.

Garnett and Pierce should have spent a little less time grandstanding for photo ops with that idiot Billy Hunter and a little more time in the gym.

They look completely flat and slow.

All espn talks about is, Kobe with his 40 points and Miami with there problems. Right now it’s tuff, they gotta get through this short season. Everything will be fine! I’m piss also like u guys. The pressure is on Miami Chicago and Fakers. Relax! I still believe….,,

I thought Avery Bradley made D Rose work harder than he had to against Rondo. Should have given him more mins alongside Rondo and/or w Ray. Wilcox came in and in about 5 mins upped the activity level in front court a lot. Never saw him again. Deng does kill Pierce. Has for a few years. Would have been nice to have Jeff Green. If Pierce is hurt/old then Danny getting Pietrus will pan out. too early to tell. J O’Neal was atrocious most of the game and active in the frenzied comeback. But, still, I’d grade him a D. KG just isn’t in synch. I believe he will find it and I support Doc staying the course there. But, clearly, neither Pierce or KG are up to 30 min nights.
Doc – old player that he is – believes that if my starters are doing this, my bench will do worse. That is so NBA coach conventional. But, he needs to create a 2nd team of high energy wanna-be’s – as Bradley is showing and Stiemsma showed – and PLAY THEM into a unit. That is where I don’t think Doc has the chops. But, he’s earned the chance to fail.

We got beat by probably the NBA champions last night. They are good at each position, especially if Brewer is that solid. And D. Rose is fantastic. Many don’t like Noah but he has good hands and high energy. I’d take him any day.

Just wondering, if they are able to “turn it on” in spurts in nearly every game so far, coming back from large deficits, if there is a chemistry/lack of ubuntu/trust issue? Yes, everyone’s older and there is no man in the middle defending the rim but it seems like there’s something else brewing. Also, I thought I heard one of the announcers during the Mavs game say something about Pierce having Achilles issue? I know achilles and heel are tied together but having a bruised heel is way different from having achilles problems—see o’neal, shaq. If Pierce is injured as opposed to being out of shape, he needs to sit. Would like to see JJJ get 10 minutes a game to see what he can do. Easy to coach and play GM from 5k miles away.