In Danny We Trust?
As the seconds trickled off of the clock inside the TD Garden in Boston on Friday night it became heavily apparent that the wheels are beginning to lose their bolts on the Celtics bandwagon. The season is still young, but the 4-6 Celtics have shown little competence in situations where it has mattered most (crunch time situations, lead trimmed down to just a few), and are beginning to play consistently bad enough to make fans wonder if it's already time for something to be done with the roster. The question remains to be answered, but the immediate answer is simple: in Danny Ainge we trust.
For years Danny Ainge tried to position Boston as a team poised to return to the glory days -- years of winning seasons, conference domination, and NBA titles. And for all intents and purposes, Danny Ainge was successful in doing this in Boston. He brought in Kevin Garnett and Ray Allen to surround Rajon Rondo and Paul Pierce, and the Celtics brought its 17th NBA Championship back to Boston in 2008. The C's even returned to the Finals in 2009-2010 and came within a quarter of winning "Banner 18", but fell short due to some untimely injuries and struggles. Ainge consistently has given Doc Rivers and his coaching staff the type of players he needs to get the Celtics to work the way that made them successful in years past.
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And then there was 2011. Ainge shipped Kendrick Perkins and Nate Robinson to Oklahoma City for Jeff Green. Celtics fans were beside themselves. So was Rajon Rondo (and assumedly many other players on the Celtics roster). Ainge backed up his decision to move Perkins, and he stood behind his choice wholeheartedly. Then gain, why wouldn't he. What else is he going to say? "I made a mistake as a leader of this organization." No. Ainge had full confidence in the fact that as the C's core group began to age that the C's would need to become younger and more athletic in order to compete with the rest of the league. His mindset is righteous. It makes sense. But injuries and other woes plagued the 2011 team, and they lost to Miami in the second round of the playoffs.So here we are -- the lockout shortened, 66-games-in-124-days 2011-2012 season. The Celtics are 4-6 and are struggling. When I think about it, though, I don't believe it is the fact that the C's are struggling that frustrates Boston fans. Struggles have become a norm as the "Big Three" have begun aging quite rapidly. What is alarming is the way the Celtics are struggling. The C's are struggling in areas and in ways that are completely uncharacteristic of past Celtics squads. Granted, the past Celtics squads never had to deal with only having two weeks of training camp, two preseason games, and an overwhelmingly long lockout that delayed the start of the season.
Still, scoring in pivotal moments has not been something that has plagued Boston in years past. It's a trait that goes hand-in-hand with being a good and elite team in the NBA. If you are to be considered a top team in the league, then you most likely have the propensity to score in the clutch. The Celtics so far have had numerous chances this season to capitalize on these opportunities, and just about every single time they have failed. On Christmas Day the C's fought back against the Knicks, but there was no one who was quite able to score to put the C's over the hump. Against the Heat the C's had to fight all the way back into the game, but they just couldn't finish the deal after Keyon Dooling welcomed himself to Boston and cut the Miami deficit to 3 in the fourth quarter. Indiana provided another scenario comparable to these other games, but again, Boston couldn't score enough to finish the job. On Friday night, Boston trailed by 20 points at one point and time. The Garden was silent. But a huge run (and a seemingly random surge of energy) pushed the Celtics to within one point of the mighty Chicago Bulls. In the end it just wasn't enough. The C's crumbled, the offense grew stagnant, and the loss column gained another number.
With these problems have been the usual questions.
- Should Doc sit Pierce until he's completely healthy (given that health is the issue with Paul)?
- Should Danny blow things up, and go ahead and focus on rebuilding Boston from the ground up?
- Are the offensive woes simply a byproduct of the fact that Paul Pierce seems out of shape at a very inopportune time during the C's schedule?
- Are we finally just too old?
All of these questions are valid. As a fan it is your right to be concerned. Pierce does seem out of shape. Danny does need to consider his options, but he's already said that he will be doing this if the pattern of losing continues. Honestly, if health were an issue with Pierce I don't think he'd be playing. Regardless of the fact that the season is shortened, Doc has always been a firm believer in the "long term success over short term success" line of thinking (see: Rivers sitting numerous players for quite a few games last year to attempt to have a healthy team in time for the playoffs.). And lastly, yes, the team is looking very old. At the same time, older players are going to (always) need more time to get into shape and into a rhythm as their bodies adjust to the rigors of this shortened season. If there truly is anything valuable left in the tank for this core of Hall-of-Fame guys, then we will begin to see the tide begin to turn for Boston in the coming weeks.
These uncertainties pose many questions, and Celtics fans all across the nation will be questioning this team and the front office for weeks to come. Danny Ainge has options. He can decide to make a few roster moves, and he could see if anyone else in the NBA would trade some budding stars or promising youth for NBA legends like Garnett or Allen. Or he could try to move Rondo as he has in the past. The problem is simply that there doesn't seem to be many viable trade options for Rajon. (Note: This is not my endorsement of a Rajon Rondo trade. I'm simply stating what could be some of Danny's bevy of options.)
Ainge also has a chance to land a future star in this year's draft. Boston has a top-10 protected pick from the Clippers in what seems to look like a very deep draft class. Does Ainge want to lock in a few of the vets after this season, move around the bench, and shape another team around an 18 or 19 year old? Maybe so. Regardless of his decisions, though, Boston fans have only a few choices as the Celtics sit at 4-6. This team is going to get better as the season progresses, and players return to game-shape (and are finally healthy).
This season more than any other is the time for Boston fans to appreciate each and every victory, and trust in their fearless leader. Danny Ainge has done everything within his power up to this point to make the Celtics competitive with three aging stars as the leaders of the team. Now, as those aging stars begin to walk out of the limelight it is time to renew trust in the man who helped assemble the squad that produced two NBA Finals trips and one NBA Championship. Times may be rough, the goings may be tough, but at the end of the day -- in Danny we trust.
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I think things are set up for big changes next year. So I don’t expect the 2012/13 Celtics to look a lot like this year’s team. So there’s a difference between trusting Danny with the team, and being happy about how things are going this year.
When Doc signed his new contract, that told me there was a long term plan in place. Looking at things for this year, I was expecting we’d be right around .500, and possibly even be a lottery team. While I don’t think Danny was trying to put us there, given the options leading into this year, it just seemed like a transition year.
I trust Danny, but sometimes there’s a bad year or two thrown in the mix.
So there’s a difference between trusting Danny with the team, and being happy about how things are going this year.
+1
by G$ on Jan 14, 2012 1:08 PM EST up reply actions
I'm sorry
but wasnt the title of the article used last year for another articale or am i imaging things? :)
Haha.
It very well may have been. I just joined on recently, and didn’t think to search. My apologies! Sincerely sorry about that.
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by JoshZavadil on Jan 14, 2012 11:51 AM EST up reply actions
pretty sure I've used the "Lather, Rinse, Repeat" line a few times
there’s nothing new under the sun
Faith and Sports - an essay by Jeff Clark
I see no reason why Ainge can't build another championship contender
He already tore down one team with no real championship aspirations and brought us a championship, and he’s more experienced now. I see no reason why he can’t do it again. The problem, as last time, will be with an impatient fan base while we necessarily suck for a couple of years. Those with poor future time orientation will view that period as failure on Ainge’s part (and probably demand his head), when in fact, sometimes moving in the right direction comes cleverly disguised as a poorer record (but with assets being gathered).
Time for a new start
Fire Danny
by KingCeltics on Jan 14, 2012 12:08 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Absolutely!
The guy has proven he cannot evaluate talent long-term or run a team competently. He HAS to go! It has been time since he made the worst trade in the history of the league Feb. 24, 2011. You can’t show sentimentality to someone in sports, especially not when he ruins your team’s future/championship hopes!
by chicagomaroon on Jan 14, 2012 1:46 PM EST up reply actions
HA!
Fantastic picture.
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by JoshZavadil on Jan 14, 2012 12:30 PM EST up reply actions
So here's a question
Can Ainge waive Pierce before his last season’s contract kicks in (it’s only $4-5M guaranteed before the preceding June 30th of that season), and then sign him to a minimum deal? I guess teams could bid on him like with Billups? But let’s say he did clear waivers, would he be able to resign with us?
in 1996 we could have drafted Kobe Bryant. We prefered to draft Antoine Walker. Would things have been different?
This summer's free agents are RESTRICTED
We need to stop talking as if we’ll just throw money at anyone and we’ll be able to sign them. See what happened during this season’s free agency. Most RFAs resigned with their teams.
Very true.
However, a move made in-season could position an RFA to be on the C’s long term. For instance, someone like Hibbert (an RFA, I believe…no, I don’t even consider Indiana even remotely open to giving him up) would join Boston in a trade and be inclined to stay once we are allowed to match his offers. There are a good few RFA’s that are solid players, and a good few solid players that are UFA’s, too. Regardless, this FA class isn’t going to be near as fantastic as people are making it out to be, IMO.
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Should Doc sit Pierce until he’s completely healthy (given that health is the issue with Paul)?
Should Danny blow things up, and go ahead and focus on rebuilding Boston from the ground up?
Are the offensive woes simply a byproduct of the fact that Paul Pierce seems out of shape at a very inopportune time during the C’s schedule?
Are we finally just too old?
At this point who knows? Right now It’s difficult to watch a full 48 minutes of Celtics basketball. That’s hard for me to admit, because within the 4 years I’ve never seen this squad play so poor.
The first two quarters they play with no energy, then come the second half and the Celts come out guns blazing, but by then it’s too late.
Anyone who thinks Ainge should continue to be the GM is delusional
Yes, he made the trade in 07. He started the Celtics dynasty again, but it was also ended by his own hand. He’s GOT to go. Period.
Year 5 of a 3 year window
What, you thought this would go on indefinitely with our aging 3? After a couple of years, with the benefit of hindsight, I think the consensus will be that Ainge did the right thing in not overpaying for Perkins (though the return was suboptimal), but let’s not pretend that Perk is Dwight Howard.
the thing is
he might have extended the big 3 era too long BUT he did put us in a position to rebuild with everyones contracts coming off at the same time. i dont think he ended the dynasty at his own hand. you cant really retool on the fly and sustain a championship level in the NBA
Convinced....
NO. I’m not 100% convinced Danny AInge can do it again but he has EARNED the right to try. I have confidence in him for sure. He may not be the best GM in the NBA but I also don’t see anyone who is clearly better then he is either. A few years ago everyone thought Joe Dumars was the second coming of Red Auerbach. How has that worked out in Detroit?
He’s got guts. He’s not afraid to make moves that his fan base is opposed to. He’s a gambler. He’s got a good eye for talent. He’s got a great coach and an ownership that has proven it is willing to pay for a winner.
It is going to take time. We wont be signing any high profile FA’s IMO so he will need to once again accumulate assets and wheel and deal his way to a better roster. Celtic fans are going to have to do something they aren’t very good at….be patient.
+1
When i think of the 90’s teams, i cringe
Changing of the guard is happening in front of our eyes...
Guys like Garnett, Pierce, Allen, Kobe, Duncan, Nash, Hill, Nowitzki, Carter, Camby, Terry, Battier, Davis, Manui, O’Neal are all getting older and starting regress. Younger teams are emerging and older teams are on the decline. This happens all the time in the NBA.
It’s unfortunate the Celtics might be regressing before our eyes or maybe not? Maybe they’re just in an early season slump? Either way the Celts organization will have to get younger after the 2012 season.
I don’t care anymore. As long as the Celtics make it to the playoffs that’s all I care about. I wanna sound optimistic and believe they’ll get out this slump. Maybe they’ll win tonight and possible build confidence and get a little win streak going.
Celtics need to wake up and start playing like a team with confidence and not amateurs.
Hah
You really think they can beat the Thunder on Monday? Can’t wait to see Kendrick Perkins at the free throw line, hearing cheers!
A Mug-Wumps View
Knack for: 2nd rounders with talent (Gnomes, Davis); vet min role players (House, Pose)
Soft-spots: defense oriented combo guards who cant shoot (Kevin Martin vs Tony Allen); waterbug point guards (Seb, Nate); aging big men with the spring out of their step (Shed-Shaq, JO)
Temptations: swings for fences. Hits= Kevin/Ray, Rondo. Misses=Walker,Ricky-D, Perk
"Celtics bring order and structure to a chaotic world"
Perk
I admit I lost a lot of faith in DA with the Perk trade. We were doing so well. I would rather have tried to win that year and lose Perk in FA than any other option. He outsmarted himself. That being said, I think he deserves two more years to see if he can rebuild.
Celts need to look in the mirror
When they stroll out onto the court, full of confidence, at the start of the game, THAT IS THE FIRST MISTAKE.
This team should not be confident. They act like they are big dogs, and if they walk onto the court, good things will surely happen. Because they are who they are.
Wrong.
And they regularly get crushed at the start of the game.
They are old, slow, and shots don’t fall when the legs are not there.
Wake up. You cannot win the old way. You are not the same team as a few years ago.
Like most teams in NBA, this Celtic team can only win if they work harder and play smarter. They must think of themselves as underdogs, and try to overachieve.
If they do, they could sneak into the playoffs. And, maybe, by then, they will become a different and better team.
Wilcox should be cut immediately. Get someone with a physical presence and some hustle.
Put Bass back to playing 2nd teamers. He cannot run with the big dogs.
Find a back up point guard who can lead a running attack. And RUN.
Put KG back at the 4. This center stuff is embarrassing to watch.
I do not mind a bad year. Happens. But if we have a bad team, at least be a bad team that scraps and wins more games than its talent might lead you to think.
This team lacks talent.
i dont know who to trust
after the perk debacle how can i trust him it seems this team was never the same after that trade, if he can pull off getting dwight howard i may trust him but as of right now i dont trust anyone period,
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