How to Handle this Season
I'm getting tired of Celtics fans who are denial who continue to say, "we'll get it together".. it's not going to happen, if you are really watching the games, the celtics have complete garbage wins against washington, the nets (without D Will and Hump4free, and detroit.. their defense is autrocious and so is their rebounding.. guys are just driving in the lane and getting layups on these guys.. we need to use this season to figure out what some of the new acquisitions can do and if that means tanking the season then so be it.. my personal concern is that there is a foundation in place after this season to rebuild and not have to wait 20 years for them to become a contender again... being in denial and playing on borrowed time is just going to perpetuate a even longer wait to greatness...
Doc Rivers - I agree with the other posts that Doc Rivers rotations sucked and have always sucked. I've never liked Doc Rivers and I wanted to cry when he signed a long term deal. The 2008 team that Danny put together was stacked, any decent coach could have coached that team to the championship and I give more credit to Tom Thibideou (Sp?) for designing the defense than sorry ass Doc.. Doc has lost his players they just dont listen to him.. I'm sorry to say but I would love to see Doc fired but it won't happen with Ainge as teh GM, they are tied at the hip, maybe it's time to Fire Ainge and Doc and bring in that Portland GM who got let go a few years ago.. is he still available?
Kevin Garnett - nobody wants to admit it, but he was PRAYING for a lockout, the guy just doesnt want to play this season.. he even complained about the compressed schedule.. I have never liked KG and I agree that this guy is overrated.. even when he plays like complete crap, he's constantly running his mouth.. I have no idea how Garnett won defensive player of the year.. on offense he plays "Scared" he never goes inside and he's afraid to mix it up..all he does is shoot jumpers...
Ray Allen - I dont care for Ray anymore either.. he lacks concentration quite often and makes lazy passes and is a complete liability on defense.. sure he's still a solid shooter/scorer i guess after they run about three different screens and he runs a mile in circles to get open... i say trade this guy if he can bring in a first round draft pick..
Pierce - he's also playing like he wanted a lockout.. he just looks lazy on the floor and then celebrates when he hits on three pointer..after missing a ton of other shots and getting scored on....
Jermaine Oneal - this guy is a complete bum and should have retired 2 or 3 years ago.. people forget he came out of high school just like garnett.. too much wear and tear... the guy is finished.. the fact that Doc was hyping him up before the season started makes me lose even more respect for doc..
Rondo - I'll admit i've been cold and hot on rondo, but he looks like the only starter who is actually trying this season.. he's going inside , sacrificing his body and he's playing solid defense.. build the new franchise around him, i'm a believer now..
Marquis Daniels - I dont like this guy, i never have, he plays lazy and looks asleep half the time, he can't finish at the rim either.. people say he plays great Defense but i dont know, against the premier guys he seems to get exposed.. i'd rather have Deshawn Stevenson..
Brandon Bass - give this guy more minutes and see what he can do.. i'm totally fine with starting him, maybe his defense will pickup where he is a liability right now, but we need to see if he should be a future celtic..
Stiesma - plays with some passion and nastiness, I say start him the rest of the year, he seems to be an outstanding shotblocker and a guy who can actually hit a consistent jumper, something that perkins coudl never do..could be part of the future foundation..
Pietrus - looks promising so far, give him more minutes
We need to sign some major free agent next season who is nasty and likes to mix it up.. give me Josh Smith, Kevin Love, even someone like Stephen jackson... we have guys who are playing scared, except for rondo.. pierce was a solid scorer who would go inside but he is just checked out now.. stop making excuses for him with this bogus heal thing.. look at Kobe, he's constantly playing hurt and still just as effective..
Be respectful and keep it clean. Thanks.
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Season almost OVER.......
Need to get rid of KG, PP and JO for whatever we can get. Maybe Robin Lopez and Andray Blatche to start and give the young Celtics a chance to play for something.
Keep PP
He has almost no value to anyone else plus he deserves to retire a celtic. Trade Allen for a young player Garnett for a bad contract and a pick and Jo for a pick
by JuJuan some moore on Jan 14, 2012 1:06 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Trade Ray and KG?
Haven’t you watched the games? Ray is maybe our best player now. And we need KG too, he’ll wake up.
Ray plays on the level of a 25 year old now.
I don't follow rules, I let the rules follow me.
Duh
Thats why ray has value. We can’t win the title so we might as well trade him to a contender for a pick or something
by JuJuan some moore on Jan 14, 2012 9:08 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
You sound...
exactly like my brother Stormshadow. You live in CT? LOL
I admit that the Big 3 as we knew them are done. Of the 3, I think Pierce still has plenty in him. He is out of shape and he also expected the lockout to continue as he was one of the vets that did not want this contract. I am sure he just needs to get in shape.
Ray is a scorer and is a D liability. I am hoping they can sign him again but as a player off the bench and maybe tutor some of the young guns on the team. Problem with him is that he is a creature of habit and I am not sure he can handle coming off the bench.
KG-play him off the bench until he either is traded or shows that he wants to remain a Celtic and live off the bench.
I would like to see Doc shake the lineup right now. He is known for being a good teacher to the young guys but is also known for his loyalty to the vets. Last night he started Bass but stated he had been thinking about this move since camp. He waited too long.
At this time I think the C’s can be more competitive without a trade if the lineups looked like this: Start- Rondo, Truth, Allen, Steamer, and Wilcox; 2nd unit KG, JO, Dooling(Bradley), Pietrus, and Bass. Since there is “adversity” with this team, they may as well deal with a little more and let the chips fly where they may until some sort of a trade can be done without losing Rondo or (IMHO) Steamer.
worst
that line up couldn’t beat the nets wilcoxs a bum stems is too skinny and cant move laterally pp is part of the problem wont change anything. those line ups are still garbage we have no bench anyways. pavs, marq, wilcox, bradley, are waste. moore should be ahead of bradley
Doc must GO
Who’s fault is it for being outta shape, KG well cry coming off the bench and Doc well listen to him like the bum that he is.
players and lockout
the OP raises an interesting pint about the lockout – I wonder if there are players that were invested in the politics of the lockout, that may have pretty much tuned out the league in protest. In other words players who feel disrespected and therefore have consciously or unconsciously “hung it up” so to speak.
The Over the hill 3
Won their ring now time to relax that’s the way there playing, slow and old.

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