Game 12: Where Hopefully Perk Learns 'You Can't Go Home Again'
Oklahoma City Thunder at Boston Celtics, Jan 16, 2012 8:00 PM EST
Oklahoma City Thunder (11-2) at Boston Celtics (4-7)
Time: 8:00 PM EST. Monday, January 16, 2012
Game #'s: Game 12, Home Game 7
Venue: TD Garden, Boston, MA
Officials: Ron Garretson, Pat Fraher, Derek Richardson
TV: TNT, NBAC Radio: WEEI, WWLS
The Line: The Celtics have dropped four straight. The Thunder
are probably the best team in basketball right now, and this will
be Perkins' first game back in Boston since 'the mistake'. The
two teams split their two meetings last season.
Game Thread | Chat Room
Please play this song while reading the preview. The hip bongo drums and smooth 70's pop-rock set the tone.
Let's get it out of the way right now. I miss the ever-lovin' crap out of Kendrick Perkins. No knock on the guys we have now, I don't want to talk about the particulars of the trade, but I miss Perkins.
He misses Boston too, but we're big boys now and we need to move on.
And, he has. He's moved on to a legitimate title contender this year, a team many have called the favorites to win the chip, and that team is currently only a half game out on the best record in the league at a pretty 11-2. However, their schedule so far hasn't hit any of the traditional powerhouses from last season besides Dallas twice, and they split those two games.
So what's that tell us? It tells us that Dallas is very good at winning the games they're supposed to win (which I've always believed to be a mark of an elite squad), and they're a little iffy-er on the games that maybe they're supposed to have a tough time with. Pretty standard for a contending squad.
And, considering the Celtics' current state, its a pretty fair bet that they're going to get blown out tonight.
But throw common sense out the window for a second (how do you know you're likely about to say something that will in hindsight seem stupid? You say things like 'throw common sense out the window for a second'), and look at this for the opportunity that it is.
The Celtics need a jump-start. They need a proving ground. They've beaten bad teams already. It's all they've beaten. If they went on a six-game winning streak against sub-.500 teams, I wouldn't take them anymore seriously than I do now, and I doubt they'd take themselves anymore seriously either.
They need a big win. Well guess what?
Tonight they're playing the best team in basketball, at home, on national television.
If they lose, big deal. Everyone already expects them to lose. Big if they win, well..that's a different story.
Click on the jump for probably starting lineups, match-up of the game, and a hypothetical conversation between Danny Ainge and Kendrick Perkins.
As always, probably starting lineups brought to you by Florida's Finest, FLCeltsFan!
Probable Starters
Point Guard
vs 
Rajon Rondo 14.7 PPG, 4.9 RPG, 10.1 APG
Russell Westbrook 18.9 PPG, 4.8 RPG, 5.5 APG
Shooting Guard
vs 
Ray Allen 17.5 PPG, 3.1 RPG, 2.4 APG
Thabo Sefolosha 5.0 PPG, 2.1 RPG, 0.7 APG
Small Forward
vs 
Paul Pierce 14.6 PPG, 5.0 RPG, 3.9 APG
Kevin Durant 25.8 PPG, 6.8 RPG, 3.9 APG
Power Forward
vs 
Kevin Garnett 13.5 PPG, 7.1 RPG, 2.4 APG
Serge Ibaka 6.8 PPG, 5.8 RPG, 0.7 APG
Center
vs 
Jermaine O'Neal 5.0 PPG, 4.9 RPG, 1.7 BPG,
Kendrick Perkins 5.7 PPG, 6.0 RPG, 1.2 BPG

Celtics Reserves
Brandon Bass
Marquis Daniels
Keyon Dooling
Greg Siemsma
E'Twaun Moore
JaJuan Johnson
Sasha Pavlovic
Avery Bradley
Mickael Pietrus
Injured
Chris Wilcox (groin) out
Keyon Dooling (knee) probable 
Thunder Reserves
Reggie Jackson
Nick Collison
James Harden
Nazr Mohammed
Daequan Cook
Cole Aldrich
Royal Ivey
Lazar Hayward
Injured
Eric Maynor (ACL) out
Ryan Reid (Nasal Surgery) out
Match-Up Of The Night: Russell Westbrook V Rajon Rondo
Paul Pierce is old now. He doesn't take it personally when other strong SF's come along, and frankly Durant is the better player now, and its not even close. Kevin Garnett likely doesn't see Ibaka as a peer yet, and shouldn't. Harden and Ray Allen...I'll get to later. But Rondo and Westbrook is a juicy, juicy match-up. Rajon Rondo can be a bit mercurial when it comes to these types of match-ups. Its a fallacy to think Rondo alone could 'shut Westbrook down', or that Westbrook could do so to Rondo. The rules the NBA has in place, the quickness and skill levels of both players involved, it requires a team effort to limit either player.
So the real question is: Will Rondo take the presence of this false prophet of the point as personal insult enough to drop a triple double on his face, or will Westbrook take advantage of the currently soft-serve Celtics D to make Rondo seem irrelevant?
Keys To The Game For The Good Guys
1) I Don't Want To Be A Tool Or Anything, But Your Emotional Reunion Is Getting In The Way Of Our Statement Game.....: We're fans. We can be emotional, sentimental, irrational, and nostalgic during basketball games. We watch them, we don't play them. Everybody misses Perkins, but the Celtics need to keep their tears on the inside. They're old, they might need the moisture.
2) James Harden Is A Freakin Warlock!: Anytime the Thunder are on TV (and the Celtics aren't), I'm watching them for two reasons. 1) Kendrick Perkins. 2) James Harden. Remember Brandon Roy? Not the bad-knees, say-stupid-things-to-the-press Brandon Roy, but like, 2008 Brandon Roy? That guy way awesome. James Harden isn't that good (yet) but he is a top-5 shooting guard in the NBA right now, he's got an awesome beard, and if he doesn't take Thabo Sefolosha's inexplicable starting role soon, he will also be the sixth man of the year. He is Manu Ginobli 2.0, and his skill-set resembles Manu's. He's on my fantasy team (cha-ching!), but I won't take it personal if the Celtics make him eat his beard tonight.
3) Good Ball Movement+Smart Shot Selection=WIN!: The Celtics are nowhere near as athletic as the Thunder. Everywhere besides point (and even that's pretty debatable) the Thunder hold the athletic advantage. The Celtics, aside from Rondo, are not going to be breaking anyone's ankles tonight. Because of that they've got to play smarter, and they've got to be more efficient. They've got to move the ball well to get those open shots, and they've got to take em and make em when the chance arrives. Ideally, they've got to end up scoring more points than the Thunder over 48 minutes of gametime. That's what I'm getting at here.
Conversations I Believe Happened: Danny Ainge And Kendrick Perkins
Kendrick Perkins (KP): Hey Danny, what's up?
Danny Ainge (DA): Awesome!
KP: Huh?
DA: Oh, you asked 'what's up'.....oh, nothin'. Another day, another dollar right? You look great by the way.
KP: Oh...um...thanks?
DA: Yeah we're doing great since you left. Just great. Brandon Bass is doing great, and we got this guy Greg who is like just...awesome. And you know we're just testing the waters, gettin' back out there. Totally awesome.
KP: Cool man. I gotta go get ready.
DA: Yup, yup, gotta get ready for the ol' roundball. Did you know that basketball players used to be called 'cagers'? I miss your scent. Okay buddy, see-ya!
KP: What'd you just say?
DA: Cagers, because there used to be this rope or wire divide that used to separate basketball players from the crowd....
KP: No, after that.
DA: See-ya?
KP: No....before tha...actually, nevermind. Later.
DA: Alright bro-sef! I'll catch you later! Text me!
.....
DA: Bro-sef? Catch you later? What the heck was I thinking? Stupid, STUPID! GET IT TOGETHER, AINGE!
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it actually took me the exact length of this song to read this article
nice work Tom!
~Aaron
Anybody else think this game's gonna get ugly quick?
by Pietrus & Cream on Jan 16, 2012 3:41 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Thought the same thing too.
Right now the Celtics have enough stamina to either play good defense or good offensive but not both. Hopefully it’s conditioning like Doc said and not just father time catching up to the core like the majority of this board is leaning towards.
Hoping we’ll see the bad Perk(getting into early foul trouble or getting a technical) and not the good Perk(blocking shots and scowling) because it’s going to be near impossible to beat OKC as it is without him having a good game too.
Hoping for the best tonight....
Let’s go C’s!
Welcome back Perk, we’ve been talking about you since you left, hope it isn’t awkward.
by green18, 19, 20... on Jan 16, 2012 4:28 PM EST reply actions
Straw suitable for grasping
Neither Perk or Serge are big-time scorers, so while I expect them to gather the caroms, they might (said grasping) not kill on put-pucks. Well, its something….
"Celtics bring order and structure to a chaotic world"
is the game at 7 or 8 pm EST?
I see different listings depending on the websites
thx for points out the typo
"Shaq is like paradise, man," Garnett said. "You ever wash your sheets and then go outside and hang them out, and the sun dries them? You ever smell the sheets? That’s what Shaq is, Shaq is like,"
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by Tom Bellinger on Jan 16, 2012 4:56 PM EST up reply actions
Kinda off topic...
But I like your profile picture Tom.
I was a big underdog fan and loved watching those old underdog cartoons when I was a kid…lol
Funny thing, it’s a leftover from the 06/07 season. Just never changed it when we were ‘over dogs’
"Shaq is like paradise, man," Garnett said. "You ever wash your sheets and then go outside and hang them out, and the sun dries them? You ever smell the sheets? That’s what Shaq is, Shaq is like,"
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by Tom Bellinger on Jan 16, 2012 8:03 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Should be a interesting game...
C’s need the win so I hope they can get the job done tonight.
On a side note I hope Perk gets a nice warm welcome from the crowd.
Also I think with Wilcox out with the inured calf and Steimsma probably going to get solid minutes tonight I think it will also be interesting to see how J.O and especially the Steamer match up against Perk.
Sadly, I dont expect a win but
If we were to win I am curious what u guys would then think of our team?
by Kgwillkillyou on Jan 16, 2012 6:14 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Maybe it will shut some of the hypocrites up.
Ive given up on some fans here in the blog. All they post is negative BS. When your team is down thats the last thing you need.
by The green mamba on Jan 16, 2012 7:20 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Im predicting a win tonight
I think we will have a nice run coming up, and it seems like there may be some urgency with in the team.
Jeezus can we somehow start making shots again?
I’m just so sick of looking at our FG% for these games and seeing a number in the 30s! If we miss another 5 bunny layups I may just shoot myself.
Gimme some decent shot making and please, can our 5s please actually make their defensive help count for something? (I’m talking to YOU, Brandon!).
NBA Officiating - Corrupt? Incompetent? Which is worse? Does it matter? It sucks.
I think ...
attempting a game plan of trying to get more field goal attempts in the paint via a strong up tempo transition offense and a 1/2 court setup offense by both the wing players and the bigs plus less reliance on a perimeter offense would help get the C’s easier and higher % baskets, which would then help improve there overall shooting % .
Couldn't agree more
and I know Doc feels the same way since that is what his offensive schemes are predicated on.
Unfortunately, we still continue to miss even easy close-in shots. It’s not the outside shots that are killing us. We are shooting over 44% from beyond the arc – which is fantastic. And we shot 43% from out there again tonight.
But when people wonder why we are coming up short in these tough games, look no further than the fact that, once again, we shot less than 40% overall – which means that WITHIN the arc we shot really crappy.
We actually have been getting the ball inside, but we keep missing bunnies. Argh. This is frustrating.
NBA Officiating - Corrupt? Incompetent? Which is worse? Does it matter? It sucks.
I predict a loss.
OKC usually has fast starts. Hopefully Boston doesn’t get blown out in the opening quarter. Just keep it close. And maybe end game breaks would favor the Cs.
Not going to ty to over analyze things.
Im just gonna sit and watch the C’s play the Thunder if we lose we lose if we win we win. Its simple as that. Im just gonna be a fan and try to cheer my team on win or lose.
by The green mamba on Jan 16, 2012 7:11 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Mistake? please get over it!
So annoying when I read the usually great articles on this front page.
There always has to be some kind of grudge or notion that the Perkins trade was a mistake for our team.
Jeff Green isn’t here now because of circumstances beyond our control, but please remember we picked up the best player in the trade AND a first round draft pick for an overpaid, overrated offensively limited and INJURED player.
Anyway, back to the game…the key to beating to the Thunder is to make Durant and Westbrook shoot contested from the outside because they have almost zero threat inside the paint. The combo of Ibaka and Perkins can’t score a basket to save their mothers.
It’s what every team will do come playoff time and I’m wondering if Doc will try it tonight.
Go after their weakness- that is their inside presence offensively.
It was a mistake.
Perkins wasnt expected to score they just wanted to be tough inside. Look where that trade left us. We have been soft inside anybody can just waltz inside and score. When we had perk you knew you were in for a hurting if you even looked at him wrong. Besides we needed a Center not a Combo forward.
by The green mamba on Jan 16, 2012 7:32 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
In hindsight, Perkins trade was a big mistake. There is no grudge there, it’s fact.
"Shaq is like paradise, man," Garnett said. "You ever wash your sheets and then go outside and hang them out, and the sun dries them? You ever smell the sheets? That’s what Shaq is, Shaq is like,"
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by Tom Bellinger on Jan 16, 2012 7:40 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
please explain how it was a mistake?
Do you think an injured Perkins or Perkins on one leg was going to change anything last year?
It’s arguable that JO coming back from his injury was much better in the playoffs than Perk would ever be.
We then have to shell out at least 8-9 million for this guy and proceed to lose Pierce, KG and Ray over the next few seasons. Leaving us with a core of Perkins,Rondo, JJJ and Moore.
No thanks.
We got the best player AND a first round pick.
People overrate Perkins so much. He was a fantastic role player but nothing more.
What has he done for Oklahoma? Lost 25 pounds but he still sucks and his lift is still nothing close to what it was.
Cling to the past all you want but when you get the best player AND a first round pick in a stacked draft AND a nice serviceable center in Nenad Krstic you are hands down the winner of the trade.
This has been hashed out a million times over. It’s not a matter of opinion. Danny Ainge too a shot, and I don’t begrudge him that but it didn’t turn out so well. We should have gotten a lotto pick this year or next year and at least one full year w Jeff green, and a half season rental of nenad. What we got was a half season of Jeff green, a half season of nenad, and a pick likely in the early to mid 20s.
We would have been better off letting Perkins expire and taking the trade exception. Better odds of beating Miami, better odds of retaining the 1st or 2nd seed, better chemistry among our starters and on the team.
I don’t blame Danny for swinging for the fences, but don’t tell me the foul ball he popped up was a homerun. In hindsight, it clearly is not. WAsnt even a single.
"Shaq is like paradise, man," Garnett said. "You ever wash your sheets and then go outside and hang them out, and the sun dries them? You ever smell the sheets? That’s what Shaq is, Shaq is like,"
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by Tom Bellinger on Jan 16, 2012 8:13 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
And just loom at the David west debacle. Could’ve used the KP exception there no problem. I’m not saying they had to resign him.
"Shaq is like paradise, man," Garnett said. "You ever wash your sheets and then go outside and hang them out, and the sun dries them? You ever smell the sheets? That’s what Shaq is, Shaq is like,"
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by Tom Bellinger on Jan 16, 2012 8:16 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Also
sry for all teh typos. Commenting from your phone is hard work.
"Shaq is like paradise, man," Garnett said. "You ever wash your sheets and then go outside and hang them out, and the sun dries them? You ever smell the sheets? That’s what Shaq is, Shaq is like,"
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by Tom Bellinger on Jan 16, 2012 8:29 PM EST up reply actions
I agree it's not a matter of opinion...
The trade was the right move.
And I also agree this has been hashed out a million times, each time 2 contingents emerged:
1) Rational analytical types who understand that Perk was both worthless to us last year (bum knees and 30 lbs overweight) and going to skip town this year - so therefore, completely worthless to the Celtics PERIOD.
2) Perkin’s Believers who believe that Kendrick would have won us a championship, stopped global warming and prevented the Italian Cruise Ship disaster…
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Jake Shuttlesworth: It's biblical.
Jesus Shuttlesworth: Yeah, no kidding.
by jakeshuttlesworth on Jan 16, 2012 9:24 PM EST up reply actions
It´s not a matter of opinion
Trading Perkins was a good move. What we´ve got in return was sub-optimal, though.
Tom, I'm a team player....
So I listened to the song while reading and, darn, the other poster is right. It finished when I got to the end of the article. “Bad songs for slow readers?”
I say that I’m a team player because I’ve kind of hated hearing that song for so long because it was sooooo ubiquitous for years. But….
I like the ‘listen along’ idea so when I finally do write another article (yeah right). I’m going to have everyone listen to….Oh Susanna oh Don’t You Cry For Me.
Anyway, I like Perk, too.
Notice how I didn’t say anything about the Celtics?
Haha nice!
"Shaq is like paradise, man," Garnett said. "You ever wash your sheets and then go outside and hang them out, and the sun dries them? You ever smell the sheets? That’s what Shaq is, Shaq is like,"
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by Tom Bellinger on Jan 16, 2012 7:41 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Really?
Bout hmmm a fella names Sam Bowie? Or even Joe Smith? Theres a long list. I dont think people expect much from Perk. He just plays his role well.
by The green mamba on Jan 16, 2012 7:49 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
...
Nobody considers Perkins an all-star, thanks to his lack of offense. But he’s a menace on defense down-low, smart basketball IQ and as well as bringing a lot of toughness to a team
Lets go Celtics!
Team needs a win tonight
by Pietrus & Cream on Jan 16, 2012 8:03 PM EST via mobile reply actions
On cue, of course, he posts a double-double.
Just noting the irony.
NBA Officiating - Corrupt? Incompetent? Which is worse? Does it matter? It sucks.
Killing it again Tom
I’m crying alone in the dark now (on the inside).
When Perk was asked what he thought of Howard winning the gold medal this summer, he responded: "What’s his impression of me after I won a ring?"
Hey guys!
I must have missed it, but any idea why the Celtics are wearing their away jerseys?
www.welcometoloudcity.com
Was wondering the same thing!
by Pietrus & Cream on Jan 16, 2012 8:28 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
+1
"There's no place like it, and it's ours." - Stephen King on Fenway Park
by 808BostonSportsFan on Jan 16, 2012 8:34 PM EST up reply actions
Wish we had Jeff Green to help slow down his buddy Durant.
by Pietrus & Cream on Jan 16, 2012 8:26 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I know you’ve probably heard it a million times before, but cheers on the name. Who knew you could flip ‘pietrus’ into something hilarious.
"Shaq is like paradise, man," Garnett said. "You ever wash your sheets and then go outside and hang them out, and the sun dries them? You ever smell the sheets? That’s what Shaq is, Shaq is like,"
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by Tom Bellinger on Jan 16, 2012 8:32 PM EST up reply actions
Haha thanks! you're actually the first to say something.
I’m new here to this blog so that might be the case!
by Pietrus & Cream on Jan 16, 2012 8:44 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
+1
Thought the same. Very creative
by Kgwillkillyou on Jan 16, 2012 9:22 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Finally!
"There's no place like it, and it's ours." - Stephen King on Fenway Park
by 808BostonSportsFan on Jan 16, 2012 8:35 PM EST reply actions
Crowd coming alive again.
"There's no place like it, and it's ours." - Stephen King on Fenway Park
by 808BostonSportsFan on Jan 16, 2012 8:44 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
we go on a scoring run...
but only to watch the other team score and increase the lead! That’s frustrating
Why does it seem like Garnett is punting the season
I know it’s probably not the case, but he doesn’t seem as fiery and intense so far this season as years past. Anyone seeing that?
Ever since that incident in New York he seems a little reserved.
by The green mamba on Jan 16, 2012 9:10 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Why am I drawing a blank
What “incident” in ny?
by Kgwillkillyou on Jan 16, 2012 9:17 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
When KG did his best Sprewell impression
and tried to choke Bill Walker…
Jesus Shuttlesworth: I hate my name. What kind of name is Jesus anyway?
Jake Shuttlesworth: It's biblical.
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by jakeshuttlesworth on Jan 16, 2012 9:35 PM EST up reply actions
This is infuriating.
"There's no place like it, and it's ours." - Stephen King on Fenway Park
by 808BostonSportsFan on Jan 16, 2012 9:05 PM EST reply actions
We are not doing too bad
A lot better than I thought….so far
by Kgwillkillyou on Jan 16, 2012 9:21 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I wanted to come over and thank you guys
Over 500 Purdue fans purchased tickets through a group event that I set up with the Pacers to welcome home JaJuan Johnson and E’Twaun Moore. The Celtics let them come out and meet our entire group after the game for a brief Q&A session.
A futile crusade to prevent mass ignorance
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That's really cool to hear.
500? wow.
Moore missed some tough shots, but showed energy 2nite.
by Tom Halzack on Jan 16, 2012 11:20 PM EST up reply actions
The turnovers are killing us.
"There's no place like it, and it's ours." - Stephen King on Fenway Park
by 808BostonSportsFan on Jan 16, 2012 9:41 PM EST reply actions
burn out quarter coming up
least I am seeing more energy.
"I’m going to probably fade to black,’’ he said. "To be honest, I’m not a showman guy. I’m going to fade to black. I don’t know what I will do. I’m an idealist. I have a high drive and I’m very determined. Fade to black, man, like evaporate.’’
by TheBigFive on Jan 16, 2012 9:48 PM EST via mobile reply actions
we probably played one of the better games
damn the thunder are good.
Well the good thing is the Cs are making me lots of money and the bad, my fav team losing :(
"I’m going to probably fade to black,’’ he said. "To be honest, I’m not a showman guy. I’m going to fade to black. I don’t know what I will do. I’m an idealist. I have a high drive and I’m very determined. Fade to black, man, like evaporate.’’
by TheBigFive on Jan 16, 2012 10:18 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Why can we not get ahead?
We can make a run, close the gap, tie the score; but only to fall back behind, and fall back big. The turnovers and sloppy passes are killing our chances of winning this game!!!
hey guys !
please don’t expect the c’s to win this one. the thunder are an elite team now.
you know how the c’s fair vs elite teams, right?
let's just wait for the next crappy team to play boston...
we MIGHT win that game…
Can paul or ray guard ANYONE?
Every time someone makes a big shot, its over ray or paul….everytime
by Kgwillkillyou on Jan 16, 2012 10:22 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Another decent effort
Cant stop the rian. that is all.
Durant
is a bad mo-fo.
Stone-cold clutch.
westbrook too..
when he can keep his conposure this guy can score from anywhere
"I’m going to probably fade to black,’’ he said. "To be honest, I’m not a showman guy. I’m going to fade to black. I don’t know what I will do. I’m an idealist. I have a high drive and I’m very determined. Fade to black, man, like evaporate.’’
by TheBigFive on Jan 16, 2012 10:43 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Lol there was a guy here who said make them take contested jumpers. Thats what we did. The only problem they kept draining them. I counted 4 3s in the last two minutes or so. They just played a flat out great game. We played decent just got outplayed by durant and Westbrook.
by The green mamba on Jan 16, 2012 10:32 PM EST via mobile reply actions
we've been competitive
in every game this year except against New Orleans. It’s not lack of effort. Just something here and there that’s not gettin us over the hump. Hope it comes together.
Shooting.
We just keep missing easy shots that we ‘normally’ (i.e. – the last few years) make. Literally 5-10 shots a game that we ‘normally’ should be making are rimming out or otherwise missing. And this is happening mainly on close shots (within 9 feet). That’s killing us. Think about it – that’s literally 10-20 points.
We are shooting extremely well from beyond the arc, but are in a terrible funk in close – and that’s where you want to be taking the bulk of your shots so to miss those is not good. It’s not just any one or two players, either.
Gotta hope that they’ll shake this early season funk.
NBA Officiating - Corrupt? Incompetent? Which is worse? Does it matter? It sucks.
ROCKY 2
The C’s are living out the plot of Rocky 2. They will turn around, but only after 2 things. Conditioning and a major gut check. It’s coming…

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