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Hollinger: It Isn't About Perk, KG and The Defense Has Regressed

Not the same.

Hollinger takes a moment to point out that the loss of Kendrick Perkins was more of a signpost than it was a catalyst of our team's downturn. More at fault has been the aging of Kevin Garnett - who Hollinger points out can't jump anymore.

NBA -- Kendrick Perkins trade not Boston Celtics' problem - ESPN

In a related story, Boston's defense has gone from spectacular to ordinary. The Celtics were second in the NBA in defensive efficiency last season; they entered Monday's game ranked 16th. So while their offense has been almost exactly the same as last season, they've fallen several notches defensively. That's why the focus on Paul Pierce's conditioning or Rajon Rondo's hey-where's-everybody-else solo transition forays or the lack of production from the bench misses the point right now. Boston's once-dominating defense is just ordinary now, and a big reason is because the anchor of that unit for the past half-decade simply isn't moving or jumping well enough to be a difference-maker.

Hurts to say, but KG isn't KG anymore. As a result, the Celtics aren't very scary anymore.

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His Offense has been putrid as well...

His jumpshots which used to be an automatic assist for Rondo is clanging almost consistently nowadays. His body language is awful.. He rarely grabs a rebound with two hands and reaches for the ball with one hand resulting in a tap to opposing team. When he tries to post up, he gets either blocked or is just not as effective anymore.

KG is falling off the cliff right in our very eyes yet Doc continues to play him over 30 min a game which IMO should be lessened to get more efficiency and production from him.

Hate to say it but opposing PF nowadays are salivating the thought of KG guarding them. He is not just old, worst, he is ordinary.

by bopna on Jan 17, 2012 8:55 AM EST reply actions  

thank god

“The Perkins trade may have been the tipping point, but Monday night underlined that the Celtics have far bigger problems than the absence of a popular role player.”

It’s about time somebody spelled it out that clearly. The Perk trade is just a scapegoat for our woes.

by Sam Lawrence on Jan 17, 2012 8:58 AM EST reply actions  

KG was nearly as bad in early spring 2 years ago. And then got it together for about the next 14 months

Im as down as anyone here but I wonder if he might have one more burst. I know some of you think its not effort and some agree with me that it is effort in the sense that they have trained themselves for years now to get by with as minimal of an effort as they can and they just aren’t good enough anymore to mess around like they do.

We will find out now or rather we will after the first 15 games. I suspect we will get to 7-8 then we just have to see where it goes.

by wahz on Jan 17, 2012 10:21 AM EST reply actions  

he's 100% right about KG.

our front court is a disaster. This makes it even more puzzling that doc doesn’t play johnson. If I’m Danny I trade both KG and Ray at the deadline if I can.

by Red2 on Jan 17, 2012 11:05 AM EST reply actions  

Why trade Ray?

He plays at a very good level right now.
Trading him would only make things worse.

I don't follow rules, I let the rules follow me.

by relja111 on Jan 17, 2012 11:48 AM EST up reply actions  

Sad, but true.

Watching KG struggle offensively and defensively was just horrific to witness as a hardcore basketball fan. I’ve watched KG play for 16 years and he dominated on both of ends, but now that he’s older he’s regressed.

I’ve been lying to myself for a couple of months about KG regressing. I though maybe he’s just out of shape or getting into shape, but watch him these past few games Garnett just doesn’t have it anymore and I think writers like Hollinger and Ziller are now having admit publicly.

It’s not just KG it’s Allen, Pierce and Jermaine they’re older and not capable of doing or making athletic plays on defense or offense. I just hope I’m wrong!

by C'sFanfrmNy on Jan 17, 2012 11:54 AM EST reply actions  

Um...Hollinger?

KG’s defense has been declining for the last 3 years since his knee injury. The difference was Perkins! His defense improved to the point he took the onus off KG on the defensive end and made KG appear to be not too far off from his previous form. So in trading the player who did that for KG, YES HOLLINGER, IT IS ABOUT PERK THAT THE DEFENSE HAS REGRESSED!

by chicagomaroon on Jan 17, 2012 12:45 PM EST reply actions  

Whole front line

I for one am glad to see another headline that said “Celts not interested in Sheed.” I like Sheed, but he has the same problem as our other elder statesmen. When they get older, they do not want to get beat up anymore. Playing inside is physically demanding and with the exception of JO, no one is playing down low with any consistency. KG and PP are neither taking or giving the hard fouls anymore. In the game with Chicago, I counted at least three times on an offensive set where not one Celtic was below the three point arc. Stepping out once in a while to keep the other defense guessing and honest is one thing. Living and dying with 15-20 footers, you will more often die. Last night against OKC there was what, 7 blocked lay-ups. No inside presence allows the opposing defense to just collapse into the paint.
I do not understand Doc’s “adjustments” either. The rotation changes continually, so it seems like no one is getting comfortable at all. Someone will come in and even if they have the hot hand, they get their four minutes or whatever, get jerked, and you don’t see them again for the rest of the game. I am a firm believer that if you have something that is working, you keep going back to it until the other team figures out how to stop it. It appears that there is a plan before the game and no matter if something is working or not working, you have got to stick to the plan. The whole idea is about making adjustments. So far the other teams are and we are not.
So is KG over the hill? Maybe, but he still has flashes of brilliance. But whipping him harder or keeping him on the floor more is not going to make those flashes appear more often. How about giving Johnson a chance? If winning meant KG being on the floor, I could understand leaving Johnson on the bench, but the percentages no longer lean in that direction. A loss would still be a loss, but it might just be a pleasant surprise.

by DENNEE on Jan 17, 2012 1:41 PM EST reply actions  

Doc needs to adapt

When the previous big three were aging, Chris Ford decided to bring Mchale off the bench. Kevin Gamble started at small forward. Bird was power forward, Chief was center. Dee Brown was shooting guard and Brian Shaw was pg.

Why can’t Doc be creative like this?

by vgarcia890 on Jan 17, 2012 2:34 PM EST reply actions  

Couldn't agree more

I cant for the life of me see why there hasnt been a more drastic change. Im not buying this BS about getting into game shape and learning and stuff. It’s tired. Clearly the Big 3 need to be role players. Someone needs to swallow there pride a little.

by cltc5 on Jan 17, 2012 10:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Adapting

There are two basic coaching philosophies in basketball. In one, you assess the talent you have, figure out their strengths and weaknesses, then make your game plan around it.
The other is you devise the plan, try to get guys you think can pull it off, and then expect the players to fit themselves into that preconceived mold. Doc is obviously of the second mindset. I will leave it to you to decide which is the better method.
Yes, these guys are professional athletes. Yes, when Doc played, he was actually a two guard who learned how to be an effective point. But just because he was able to successfully reshape his game does not mean that everyone can do it. Players are often unable or unwilling to change their game. Sometimes coaches are too.

by DENNEE on Jan 18, 2012 12:27 AM EST up reply actions  

Won't change results

“Adapting” won’t change the reality that we aren’t a top tier team anymore.

by guava_wrench on Jan 18, 2012 12:42 AM EST up reply actions  

Celtics Status as a team

we knew five years ago “the window” was to only be opened for a short period of time. we road it out as long as we could. Cheering all the time. knowing the day of reckoning was at hand. So here we are acting surprise and trying to analysis it as if that will do the trick. PLease lets hang with this group. They have given us many thrills in addition to a championship. Danny has us in about the best place we can be under the circumstances. we have expiring contracts and two(2) first round draft picks. There are no deals to make, that will make us any more competitive than we will be this year. Be patience and Polite.

by Moses Freeman Jr. on Jan 17, 2012 4:26 PM EST reply actions  

When you don't

have a center everyone has to play differently- a center allows the perimeter player to okay tight knowing they are covered on drives, allows forwards to front their men- the whole complexion of the team changes. The problem with trading Perk is that there was no backup plan if they got even an adequate replacement it wouldn’t be a big deal.

by calc on Jan 17, 2012 10:10 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Play rather than okay f### spellcheck

by calc on Jan 17, 2012 10:17 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Play rather than okay f### spellcheck

by calc on Jan 17, 2012 10:17 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

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