Danny Ainge Is one of the best GMs in the League!
I hate that in every comment I read on this and other Celtics blogs, there is Ainge Bashing.
There was a Forbes Ranking a while ago where GMs ranked their peers and Ainge was among the top of the NBA.
We were all spoiled for the last few years by having a NBA powerhouse of a team ( That Ainge Built)
What did you think was going to happen to the Big 3? they were going to grown younger? Guys get old. Continuity is the key to building a strong organization (Spurs, Lakers, Dallas, Celtics) we have a good ownership group, a Great GM, and a proven coach. Ainge has also been above avg drafting talent, When things get ugly resist the urge to start the "fire Ainge" Post or for that matter the "fire Doc" post.
Let me know what you guy think about the subject.
Ohh if you don't think he's among the best name 5 GMs better than him, In all phases of the position.
Be respectful and keep it clean. Thanks.
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I very much agree.
I think Danny is one of the ballsiest and smart gms out there. He isnt perfect but definetly one of the best, i mean he brough us two hall of famers and turned a very mediocre team into a power house. I am one of the people who think we have a shot at the finals, but besides that the shock and awe at the aging of the big 3 is pretty preposterous. Everyone knew they were gonna get older and our window was gonna close, not that its happening everyone is furious.
You post the truth.
No GM is going to score hits on every trade/signing/draft pick – and Ainge has certainly made mistakes. But things like the Big 3, Rondo’s extension, not re-signing Posey etc certainly outweighs the mistakes like not re-signing Tony Allen. And let’s be honest – when not resigning TA is one of your biggest errors, chances are you’re a GM with a strong track record.
People have to remember that for every inspired GM move, there’s going to be a miss. Dallas may have stolen Chandler, but they also gave boneheaded contracts to Haywood and Dampier (not to mention not resigning Nash). Buford from the Spurs may have struck gold with Ginobili and Parker, but he also gave Jefferson 28 million dollars and very nearly signed Jason Kidd to a huge contract. The 2010 Suns were assembled by the same man who traded Kurt Thomas and two no. 1’s for a second rounder. In that context, I think Danny definitely warrants a mention as one of the top executives in the league.
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by IsItTheShoes on Jan 20, 2012 8:49 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Ainge is definitely top-5.
- If only by default, GMs that have built championship-winning teams deserve kudos for such, and since 1999 there have only been 6 championship organizations – SA, LAL, DET, MIA*, BOS, and DAL. Ainge deserves credit for crashing that party. *I don’t recall who the GM of the Heat was back in 2006, but it wasn’t yet Pat Riley.
- GMs have to be both smart and ballsy, long-term and short-term. In 2008, Ainge went for broke and won it all, then tried to sustain that for a few years. Barring injuries to KG in ’09 and Perk in Game 6 of ’10, the Celts could very well have three titles. Putting a competitive championship contender on the floor is all a GM can do.
- GMs from non-championship-winning teams have to be on the right track with something special to be considered in the conversation for best GM. The only one that comes to mind in my opinion is Sam Presti of OKC. Oh, and perhaps Pat Riley, though he’s going about it in the opposite manner of Presti.
Top GMs:
1. Mitch Kupchak (LAL) – I don’t like it, but the man has 4 titles and always seems to pull off a trade or signing that keeps his team in contention (unless Stern gets in his way).
2. RC Buford (SA) – Same as above. 3 titles and the playoffs in each season he’s been GM. SA may be slowing down as their Big-3 age, and the Jefferson signing didn’t pan out, but they’re in the thick of the playoff hunt yet again.
3. Danny Ainge (BOS) – Took an under-performing and young Celts team and traded for two Hall of Fame players, which led directly to Banner 17. Barring injuries over the next few seasons, the team could have added two more titles. He has a lot of work to do to more on from the Big-3 Era, and his legacy (especially in Boston) will probably be determined by how he handles the next three years or so. He could either rise or drop on this list.
4. Sam Presti (OKC) – He’s doing a fine job, locking up all his young talent and bringing in solid role players who contribute. He has his team on the brink. Will anyone be surprised if OKC wins a title or two over the next five seasons? In hindsight, absolutely stole Perkins from Ainge, while Perk was injured nonetheless. Boston doesn’t have one player from that trade still on its roster. Perk? He’s starting for the top team in the NBA.
5. Donnie Nelson (DAL) – How much of this team is the reflection of Nelson’s work as opposed to owner Mark Cuban’s? The Mavs just won the title and have made the playoffs in each of Nelson’s years at GM. He wasn’t around to draft Dirk, but has certainly surrounded him with talent over the past decade. Keep your Hall of Fame superstars happy and competing – Rule #1B of being a GM*.
(Dis)Honorable Mention: Pat Riley (MIA) – He hasn’t yet won anything as a GM, so he doesn’t deserve to be any higher up this list, but he deserves credit for bringing in James and Bosh to pair with Wade, and his steal of Battier was probably the best free agent move of the past off-season.
*Rule #1A is Win, Win, Win.
I think
as I have mentioned recently at times that Ainge has done a pretty good job of running the C’s.
He built us a great Celtics team in the summer of 07 with the goal to win a championship or 2 .
The C’s won the title in 08 ending a 20 year title drought which Ainge deserves alot of credit for.
The C’s may have won another when the big 3 were still young in 09 if KG did not get hurt.
The C’s were minutes away from winning the titles in 10 and probably would of if Perk and Rasheed were not injured.
The C’s in 11 built a older but maybe one of the most deepest and talented clubs in Celtic history but due to injuries and the Perk trade the C’s fell short of winning a title.
I think the C’s this year in year 5 of the big 3 window , Danny and many fans (including myself) thought the chances of winning a title would be the slimmest of all previous years since due to the big 3’s advanced age, which is not Dannys fault.
Ainge gave the The C’s a nice 5 year run of exciting basketball , where they accomplished there goal to win a title, had shots to win additional titles also.
I think we were lucky to enjoy this team he built (especially after the previous 20 plus year title drought and being in the NBA cellar) and this championship window which most NBA citys would of loved the chance to have.
Hmmm
I just posted about this. Danny is a little too trade happy. He is often fly by the seat of his pants GM. Similar to the type of player he was in the NBA. He is good, not great. I don’t think he should be fired, but I think he should chill.
Doc is fantastic.
by hoyodemonterrey on Jan 20, 2012 1:41 PM EST reply actions
I disagree strongly that he is 'often fly by the seat of his pants'.
Danny has proven that he is one of the few GMs with a strategic, long-term vision. The years prior to 2007 were all very carefully planned with a long term vision in place that played out to historic success. Danny carefully built up assets specifically towards cashing them in either through trade or draft and then had the guts to execute that vision when it all came together.
A lot of the ‘maintenance’ moves he’s been making the last few years to shore up the team around the Big 4 have been driven by cap/roster rules that force his hand, but even there he has maintained an eye toward the long term by keeping to his very tight salary cap strategy. He’s been very disciplined about the length and size of contracts.
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I tend to agree with most of these… but when you look back on some moves.. drafting A. Jefferson, Perk, T.A., West, Rondo, Davis are all solid highlights. But you can’t say he hasn’t made drafting mistakes.. Giddens comes to mind. Also the year they did draft rondo he had the 7th ? Pick and passed on Rudy Gay who literally fell into his lap. Instead traded it for telfair.. which makes his drafting of rondo that year even more unlikely that rondo would be the better of the two as quick as he did.. sorry but a line up of Rondo, West, T. A., Gay, AJ., Perk, Davis would be strong for years to come at the time. I understand it all worked out in the end cause they raised a banner. But I am losing faith in ainge when it comes to drafting. This past year they could have kept brooks and taken a big who wouldn’t play in round 2, instead Johnson (who I like) is sitting and they are trying to make Moore fit. I’m curious of who was choose after Moore when it comes to bigs

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