Trade Idea of the Day - Paul Pierce For Rudy Gay
by Jeff Clark on Jan 21, 2012 10:13 PM EST
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PrintI'm not giving in to the blow it up plan yet, but it seems like a popular topic of conversation so who am I to begrudge you the opportunity to discuss it? So I'll propose a trade each day and let you rip it to shreds and/or find some value in it.
I'm not mentally or emotionally prepared to sign up for trading Paul Pierce for anyone. That said, if we decided to "blow it up" and trade Ray and KG and Paul let Danny know that he'd like to be dealt as well, rather than have to suffer through another rebuilding process, then I guess you'd have to listen to him and do what's best for him and the team.
So far, the idea that makes the most sense and seems somewhat reasonable to me is trading him to the Memphis Grizzlies for Rudy Gay. The idea is far from original - several people have suggested the idea - but I saw it first on WEEI.
Green Street " Irish Coffee: Four Paul Pierce Celtics trade scenarios
In this scenario, the Grizzlies would be the team saving money, as Gay is due $19.3 million in 2014-15. With Gay injured last season, Memphis came within one game of the Western Conference finals, as Shane Battier played 28 minutes a night and provided leadership for an inexperienced team. Once Zach Randolph gets healthy, the Grizzlies would be fielding a starting lineup of Marc Gasol, Randolph, Pierce, Tony Allen/O.J. Mayo and Mike Conley. That's a serious contender. Meanwhile, the Celtics get younger at small forward, reuniting the Rondo-Gay forehead alley-oop combination from this past summer.
This is a good example of the Celtics taking on a salary, but at least it is a salary that comes with a bigtime talent. Gay was overpaid the moment he signed that contract, and that might be the reason Memphis would be willing to trade him. That said, he's a very, very talented and young wing player that would serve us well in the future.
Assuming the Celtics don't take on additional salary in any Ray Allen and Kevin Garnett deals, you could potentially sell Dwight Howard on teaming up with Gay and Rondo for the future. At the very least, Gay is better than any non-Dwight/Deron free agent we could land this offseason and we'd still have cap space to burn.
Like I said, I want Paul retiring a Celtic, but if he asks to be traded, we could do worse than to get Rudy.
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"Gay is better than any non-Dwight/Deron free agent we could land"
Right on the mark. I’d do this in a heartbeat… If Paul Pierce agrees.
Disagree
We’d be better off hanging onto the cap space than filling it with Gay.
That’s like Detroit saying “Ben Gordon and Charlie V are better than any non-LeBron/non-Wade free agent we could land”
Out of touch
It's by far not the same
If you want to go after Deron and Dwight this free agency, that’s fine, me too. But Rudy Gay is not Ben Gordon or Villanueva. He’s much better than both those guys. He puts up 18-20PPG, 5Rebs and is Young and athletic. Remember, most free agents this summer are Restricted, which meand it is highly unlikely we’ll get them even if they want play here. You can get Rudy Gay and still have enough cap space to spend on great players.
by Celticsdude on Jan 21, 2012 10:37 PM EST up reply actions
Sorry for the typos
I just can’t write on my ipad
by Celticsdude on Jan 21, 2012 10:38 PM EST up reply actions
Actually, you’re wrong again. Ben Gordon in Chicago averaged 20.7 points, 3.4 assists, 3.4 rebounds 45% shooting, 41% from three AND he was the same age as Rudy now … then he signed that thick contract with Detroit.
Wrong, Wrong, Wrong.
Rudy Gay is slightly better than Jeff Green. It would be moronic for the Celtics to tie up cap space on a top 65 talent.
More of a Luol Deng than a Ben Gordon
Which includes rebounds and defense. Granted, he’s not a star, but what good is having all that cap space if we’ll only be able to spend it on role players? I understand your position. I guess you either want to sign rookies and/or spend our cap space in 2013. As it says on this post, this year, outside of Dwight and Deron, we can’t get much in free agency, and players like OJ Mayo are just not worth it for a guy like Paul Pierce.
by Celticsdude on Jan 21, 2012 10:53 PM EST up reply actions
I just don't understand who you want to spend our cap space on
If it’s Dwight and Deron, fine, me too, but we just might not get those guys, and players like Rudy Gay are a solid option to even entice them to come here.
by Celticsdude on Jan 21, 2012 10:55 PM EST up reply actions
Rudy Gay isn’t going to entice anyone to come here any more than Jeff Green is goign to entice someone to come here. SOrry, it’s just out of touch thinking.
The bottom line is… I fully expect a rebuild that could take up to 5 years. I want to stockpile as much young talent, draft picks and cap room as possible so that we have as much flexibility as possible. Tying up cap space on a guy who is 25 and has never made an allstar team does nothing for us. It maybe keeps us closer to being a .500 team… further away from landing a star in the draft… dumb idea all around.
Re-lax
You do know this is hypothetical, right?
by Celticsdude on Jan 21, 2012 11:01 PM EST up reply actions
And I still disagree with you
But that’s fine.
by Celticsdude on Jan 21, 2012 11:02 PM EST up reply actions
If you have 34-38 mil in cap space (what we’d have if we traded Pierce for an expiring contract), grabbing grossly overpaid non-allstars like Rudy Gay will be easy. Just offer them a trade exception and a draft pick. Done.
But grabbing him now doesn’t give as much flexibility.
BTW, wHen I said Rudy could help us get other players I mesnt thatthis probably qouldn’t be our only move. We’d still have to see what other trades including Ray, KG and perhaps Rondo Danny would make. If you have Deron+Rudy, Dwight would want to come here, for example. He already wants to go to the Nets just because they have Deron.
by Celticsdude on Jan 21, 2012 11:28 PM EST up reply actions
I’d go as far as to say that Paul Pierce will continue to be a better play than Rudy Gay for the next couple years. I’m not reading into his early struggles too much… the guy is coming off an injury and admits he’s nowhere near 100%.
That’s besides the point… KG is toast. Ray is old. The reason you trade Pierce is to take back an expiring contract and young CHEAP talent so you can rebuild for the next generation.
Ray Allen for Rudy Gay would mean we’re trying to remain competitive. Paul Pierce for Rudy Gay is just stupid.
I'm not sold on
trying to acquire Rudy Gay or anything. But either you have something personal against that guy, or you are VASTLY underrating him. LOL at slightly better than Jeff Green. Get out of here.
From purely a business standpoint, Gay is a far better asset than Pierce. No question.
"Chemistry is something that you don't just throw in a frying pan and mix it up with another something and throw something on top of that and then fry it up and put in a tortilla and put it in microwave, heat it up, give it to you and expect it to taste good. You know? If y'all don't know what I'm talking about then you can't cook and this doesn't concern you."
by KGHurtYourFeelings on Jan 22, 2012 5:26 AM EST up reply actions
You Don't build a Contender just taking what's available
This is a chess match – there are a finite amount of moves before you are capped out and unable to move your current personnel for superior ones.
Rudy Gay is just too expensive. If he was in the 8-12 million ball-park, or if he only had a year to go on his deal, that would be one thing. But Gay is almost 20 million of your cap space and he’s just not an impact player – terrible decision making.
Even if you assume improvement. Boston would be paying Rudy Gay as if he was their KG. Rudy Gay’s excess money should be going to getting a guy like Jeff Green to come back (6mill/year) and then spending 12-14 million on 2 players each, if possible.
You want cost-controlled and year-controlled deals – Rudy’s deal is both excessive and long….its not about his talent or upside, he’s just a contract nightmare.
by BillfromBoston on Jan 22, 2012 11:55 AM EST up reply actions
"slightly better than Jeff Green"
When did Green shoot over Lebron for a game winner?
Rudy is so much more athletic. And confident! The Dude’s got swag…
I think PP is too old to trade for such a young stud.
I agree. Better to amnesty Pierce if it comes to it--
—than to use his salary space for a non-All-Star-caliber player. Elrod’s article quoted a basic truism that you need three All-Stars, one of which a superstar, to win.
Right now Danny’s got three potential slots at that level: Rondo, under contract, next year’s current cap space, and whatever he replaces Pierce’s contract with. He shouldn’t go wasting any of those three on less than a genuine All-Star if he can help it—and only short term filler if he has to next year because he can’t upgrade the two slots that need upgrading.
EXACTLY
This is a “10 foot pole” proposition – avoid Rudy Gay at all costs, he’s an 8 million dollar player being paid 19 millon dollars – he can’t impact winning to the level you want and he eats into the money needed to get other players.
by BillfromBoston on Jan 22, 2012 11:50 AM EST up reply actions
Way OVER exaggerated
Rudy Gay is NOT an 8M player. That kind of proposition is retarded. Gay averages over all better then Rondo and Rondo only makes 10M. Gay deserves more then that and I’d question realistically what you know about a players value. Especially since we offered Green a 1yr 9M deal FYI. That being said Gay unhealthy is worth 10-12M and healthy 13-14M. So yes over paid but not by your ridiculous standards.
On topic. I would admit if Pierce asked for a trade, Gay is a worthy piece guaranteed to do okay. I’ve seen the kid play and he’s got some good skills and assets. However he is not an ideal player at all. His 19M contract is too much and I’d rather see Pierce retire in green then trade for a top 10 Small Forward (yes small forward NOT top 10 player). If pierce wants out though, it’d be a good plausible deal.
Remember guys, who else is out there playing the 3 spot who is young and talented and ATTAINABLE? With those parameters, not much.
by RR_The_Future on Jan 22, 2012 7:08 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Then who plays Center?
Stiemsma? With Wilcox backing him up? Orate we talking next year to do this? Cause Stiemsma is a good back up and that’s it. He’s 26/27 years old, most players enter their prime around this time. We need someone like Roy Hibbert or Javale McGee next year, pretty sure both are FA’s right?
"Victory belongs to the most Preserving" - Napoleon
by RotB_MattR on Jan 22, 2012 10:35 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I wouldn't do the Gay or the Gay plus Mayo trade--
but IMO there’s nothing wrong with trading to make this year’s team even worse—that’ll only help the rebuilding.
I'd beg Pierce to "just say no"
But, if it was his hearts desire to move on….
This wouldn’t be terrible. Although we’d have to gut the rest of roster to have any hope of adding a legit big (those guys ain’t cheap either).
" Hell yeah I'm trying to gain an advantage out here. If you can't handle it, get off the court."- Kevin Garnett
"Stats are for losers."- Rahim Morris (FORMERLY-Tampa Bay Buccaneers)
No freakin way
No. You don’t understand what “blowing it up” means. It’s not about trading our aging stars for overpaid mediocre talent. The only thing trading Pierce for Gay does is prolong our mediocrity and delay ever being real contenders. You aren’t going to win a title with Rondo and Rudy Gay. The only Pierce trade that makes sense is one where we get back expiring contracts + young prospects or draft picks. In that sense, trading Pierce for OJ Mayo (still on his rookie contract) makes more sense than taking on bad salary.
wrong
He’s “mediocre” is the sense that Ben Gordon is mediocre. Statistically, Rudy Gay is the 61st best player in the league this year. I have no reason to believe he’ll do more statistically in Boston than he does in Memphis. GROSSLY overpaid. He’s nowhere near the player Pierce was in his prime and Pierce in his prime wasn’t even a top 10 talent.
Terrible idea.
Why… are his stats out of the ordinary right now?… No. He is what he is. Memphis played just fine without him. That tells you something.
The Patriots played just fine without Tom Brady...
He must also be mediocre
by FanFromMaine on Jan 22, 2012 8:16 AM EST up reply actions
Terrible Analogy
A single basketball player makes more impact on a game than any single athlete in any other sport – there are 5 starters – if Gay was so important, the team should have had major problems without him.
Its his application of his talent that limits him. He’s a “superstar” talent, playing at a “starter” level.
by BillfromBoston on Jan 22, 2012 11:58 AM EST up reply actions
Rudy Gay is not mediocre
He is a potential star…potential being the key word. You’re right that its not blowing it up…but this could be the quick reload option if management thinks Gay is worth the money. If so, then yeah, I have to imagine Howard would entertain joining Gay and Rondo (and possibly Green) with the cap space we’ll have once Ray and KG’s contracts expire.
by guy incognito on Jan 21, 2012 10:35 PM EST up reply actions
He’s a potential star in the same sense Jeff Green is a potential star. I wouldn’t want to pay Jeff Green 15-20 mil for the next 5 years either
The money question is a fair one
Personally, I think Gay is much better than Green…his athleticism is a level above Green’s, and he’s much less passive on offense. But, no doubt, he is overpaid. That alone could be a reason to nix this.
by guy incognito on Jan 21, 2012 10:49 PM EST up reply actions
Gay + a pick or two might convince me, though
Because we’re helping Memphis save money with a deal like this.
by guy incognito on Jan 21, 2012 10:50 PM EST up reply actions
Jeff Green in Oklahoma while playing second fiddle to Kevin Durant managed to average 16.5 points, 6.6 rebounds, 2 assists and a steal with 45% shooting and 39% from three… all while playing out of position.
Are you certain that Rudy Gay who averaged 18 points, 5.7 rebounds, 2 assists and 1 steal on 46% shooting and 35% from three is THAT much better than Jeff Green?…
Dudes, I’m not even sure Rudy Gay is a top 3 player on Memphis.
Yes!
He’s actually exciting to watch and plays with some confidence.
Game winner over Lebron last year that started the Grizzlies path towards relevancy!
Add a 5th poll option
ONe that says
No, I’d only trade Pierce for an expiring contract and young talent.
fair point
I added another poll option that I hope is a catch-all for these kinds of opinions
Faith and Sports - an essay by Jeff Clark
It really is such a tough situation
I cannot imagine Pierce in another uniform. The mere thought of it makes me sick in fact. Having said that, even if this team turns things around (which I don’t think is unreasonable to think they will, being such a proud group) I do not think the ultimate goal of a championship is attainable. As much I think back to the 2009-2010 season, this team is just that much older, and the competition within the conference (Miami, Chicago etc) are just that much stronger. I feel like Cleveland as the 1 seed in 09-10 was not as strong as either Miami or Chicago are right now. I think that Cavs team would lose to either one of this year’s Bulls or Heat teams. So, the competition should be considered when trying to hope for another magical run like that.
Jeff, just one question. You said personally you would not trade Pierce (at least from what I have read that seems like your stance). My question is do you feel there is no price that you would ever deal Pierce for because he deserves to be a Celtic for life, or is it simply more a matter of timing (too early) and the names that seem possible (guys like Gay aren’t enough)? Because for me, as painful as it would be too see Pierce go, even I would have to consider it for the right price. Now don’t ask me what that is, because I have not studied salaries of other teams to see what fits and who might go. But, I’d be hard pressed to turn down a young talent or two, and with it the salary relief.
by ryanthesportsguy on Jan 22, 2012 11:33 AM EST up reply actions
I Like It BUT
..I just can’t see it happening. I mean why if you’re Memphis, why trade Rudy for older version of Rudy which is basically what Paul is. I still say (ironically enough) that the trade that makes the most sense is Pierce to LA for Gasol.
Killer move
For all the wrong reasons:
Read this if you think this is a smart move:
http://basketball.realgm.com/article/218462/Danny_Ainge_And_The_Art_Of_The_Rebuild
Because it isn’t.
Your working to hard Jeff, take the night off, could of gone without this one.
by forever_green on Jan 21, 2012 10:45 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Stole my trade idea, Jeff. lol
That would be a great trade, but Memphis would never do especially with Zack being out for the next 2 months. I just don’t it’s wise from a public opinion aspect to trade Pierce, a Celtics lifer.
Why would anyone want that contract? Besides Gay and his agent. No thanks.
by forever_green on Jan 21, 2012 11:20 PM EST via mobile reply actions
good idea
Only if we can get Rudy Gay and some how we can get a big that even with Gay this year the bigs are being beating on the boards and on Def. So maybe Mayo and. Sam Young and M .Speights for Paul Pierce ,J J and J Oneal Memphis would dump ONeal when their big man return and then we would and DH 12 and Green or we would be back in the mist resign Ray Allen and KG and let go Sashia P .
Ok, ok...
but can we get him to change his last name?
Johnny Cash, "Boy named Sue"
Dude’s probably been playing with a chip his whole life…
nothing wrong with being happy
seriously though, lets not go down this path, ok?
Faith and Sports - an essay by Jeff Clark
Sure
Not that there’s anything wrong with that.
I bet Rudy's family
Is proud he is a Gay
by Mooose on Jan 22, 2012 11:00 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I don’t see the Celtics organization being the same once the Big 3 are gone. Though the Big 3 are older and on the decline I just don’t see they can be replaced? The way KG changed the atmosphere in Boston is irreplaceable. Today’s generation of NBA players have no leadership qualities.
What Power Forward in the league today can do what KG did in his prime offensively and defensively? What SG in the league today can shoot like Ray Allen or be clutch like him? As for Small Forwards which is rare in the today’s league?
I’ve been watching the NBA for 22 yrs and I’ve only seen a few great SF from that time being up until today, Pipen, Hill, Pierce, Lebron, Melo and Gay. How do u replace Pierce? The Celtics will have a huge task ahead.
Then add Kevin Martin for Ray and stuff.
Rondo, kmart, and Rudy might get Boston on Howard’s trade wishlist. Those four would be a competitive core for a team.
Posted this article on Memphis blog
Curious to see what they would say. Based on similar conversations on their blog it seems their members think Gay is going to net them a Top 25 player.
Rudy Gay will flourish w/ Doc, Rondo and our organization. Move Allen and KG if possible for additional draft picks. If rebuilding w/ Rondo we need pieces that fit with him, Gay is a perfect fit.
We go into the off-season with
Rondo
Gay
Likely Jeff Green coming back for cheap
Lottery pick for us
LAC Pick
mid-late 1st rd pick from either Allen or KG
enough $$ to get a max low post FA if we can over the next couple years.
That’s a lot of assets to start rebuilding with and convince a elite talent like Howard to join us.
Good Point - I think the latter makes more sense for both teams
I’m not seeing the Grizzlies wanting to trade Rudy Gay for Pierce, but I could see Ray for OJ Mayo working out. Both will be free agents next year, Mayo will expect to command a higher salary and Ray will expect a lower one. Ray can still play at a high level and the Celtics have the cap room to pay Mayo assuming they believe in him as a player.
would do it in a heartbeat. then how about a josh smith kg trade, or a kg amar’e trade. amare is doing absolutely nothing for the knicks right now and kg can help their horrible defense. also the hawks have shopped smith around and shown interest in garnett a couple times. then ray allen for idunno, kevin martin? theres no point of keeping cap space for next summer cus we dont have a good chance of landing howard. we dont even need deron williams cus we have rondo. no other major free agent we can pick up. all these trades are really too good to be true tho.
Someone tell me
has paul ’s midrange game left him? Or is it just him being outta shape that he simply cant elevate enough to get a shot off? Thats what made him legit.
by celtz_believer on Jan 22, 2012 12:43 AM EST via Android app reply actions
no
can’t believe it’s come to this so soon
I think we need to start realizing our biggest problem
Lack of big men. And all these trade ideas of the big three, none of them result in us getting a big man. So yes rudy gay, oj mayo, deron williams all these players are nice, but why would we trade a current all star for a guy whose gonna be an all star at the same position were strong at now? Let’s say we trade pierce for gay, Allen for mayo and KG for josh smith and all three replicate what the big three did in the next couple ears. Yes it will make us better then we were before since rondo has vastly improved when the big three used to be on top of there games but a man reason we are losing and the biggest reason why we’ve lost ever since the perk trade has been the lack of a center. So whatever we trade any of the big three for, is useless unless we get a big man
by OFWG1554 on Jan 22, 2012 1:09 AM EST via iPhone app reply actions
100% agree
we lack a big man that can control the rebounds and score at the post like DWIGHT HOWARD. The team also need an athletic player with a mid-range jumper to help Rondo on transition. Ahh…still dreaming…….
Great article!
Some how, someway things will work out!
Following up to that an interesting trade idea
Ray Allen and Jermaine O’Neal and Clippers 1st pick to the Pacers for Roy Hibbert. The pacers are 5th for the east now and might not contend for a championship with this roster, but adding Allen and Jermaine (whose indicated he’s wanted to retire in Indy) make them a tougher playoff team with Collison, Allen, Granger, West, and Jermaine and a bunch of young guys like Paul George, George Hill, and Psycho T coming off the bench. Indianda definitely has plenty of youth and are in a position to gamble to upgrade there roster as they haven’t been winning for a couple yeara
by OFWG1554 on Jan 22, 2012 1:15 AM EST via iPhone app reply actions
That would be a great deal for the Celtics not so much for Indiana
Even with the pick, Ray and Jermaine are too old for the pacers to trade their young center (a true center btw, not a pf/c). Hibbert definitely is not a superstar but you don’t trade a young big for 1 old but effective player (Ray) + one washed up player (JO) + a mid to late 1st rounder.
no
rudy gay couldn’t hold a candle to paul pierce, age be damned. perfect example of a trade that will ensure the years of semi-relevant mediocrity begin sooner rather than later.
Very hard to watch great athletes fade away
This team should hold their ground, play the young guys more and try to pick up draft picks as the can. Under no circumstances should they trade the Captain. Hopefully, we can get Thomas Robinson in the draft!
how about
rondo & pierce & a 1st for
gay,conley & mayo ??
Don't worry Celtics fans
you get my Wizards tomorrow. Guaranteed W, guaranteed there will be more Celtics than Wizards fans, and guaranteed Andray Blatche will be booed mercifully. Speaking of which, if you want a semi-productive player with loads of potential thats who you should trade for. At this point, Ernie will trade him to you for 2nd-round pick. Hell you could probably get Young or McGee thrown in too.
ingrates...
this is now more than business, we owe pierce and co. that much to drag them down in all these brouhaha..if patience is a virtue, where does loyalty come in then? i’d say if this is gonna be their swan song of a season, i say we give it to them, i’d rather stick it out than gambling on something which is a longshot from making us even a contender anyways..the hell with your “future” alibis,there is no future,this is it, if this is a sinking ship, i’d rather go down with it, what do you say all you fairweather folks?
If Paul Pierce is traded, this would be a shame for an institution like Boston, he’s a Celtics legend, like Duncan, Kobe, Dirk.
Everybody acts
like we know that KG, Ray, and PP want to retire Celtics. Maybe 3 proud, former superstars with championship pedigrees would rather be traded to a contender than toil away in mediocrity in Boston.
"Chemistry is something that you don't just throw in a frying pan and mix it up with another something and throw something on top of that and then fry it up and put in a tortilla and put it in microwave, heat it up, give it to you and expect it to taste good. You know? If y'all don't know what I'm talking about then you can't cook and this doesn't concern you."
by KGHurtYourFeelings on Jan 22, 2012 9:51 AM EST up reply actions
Not sure why anyone would want a big contract
I’m pretty sure another team will just wait till off season to get these guys. All contenders have no room for any of these 3
I tend to agree
that there won’t be any trades. I’m only saying that, if in the unlikely event, a contender made us a can’t-refuse offer for one of the big 3, said member of the big 3 might be all for it. Not that I know either way.
"Chemistry is something that you don't just throw in a frying pan and mix it up with another something and throw something on top of that and then fry it up and put in a tortilla and put it in microwave, heat it up, give it to you and expect it to taste good. You know? If y'all don't know what I'm talking about then you can't cook and this doesn't concern you."
by KGHurtYourFeelings on Jan 22, 2012 11:45 AM EST up reply actions
silly and not going to happen
tying up that much money for a player with his impact is ridiculous and desperate. That kind of money needs to be reserved for players whose impact immediately elevates the team to another level. Even younger, he’s not a better finisher than Pierce. He will not command the same respect from his team or his opponents as Pierce. And trading Pierce at this point for just about anyone out there would be another (the final?) nail is this teams coffin for this year. You think trading Perk hurt our psyche? Trade Pierce and see us deflate. Sure, Gay, Rondo and Howard would be a great threesome. But getting the third and most important part of that threesome is but a dream (at least right now).
What a poor trade idea
If Gay is overpaid, why would you trade for him?
Short-term fix for a situation that needs slow and careful planing. I hope Danny is not as blind and in a hurry as a lot of Celtics fans who want a big name rigt now.
Trading for a big name now (big name = average star like Gay for example) would be the worst mistake DA could make imo.
Would Memphis really do this?
Rudy Gay is overpaid, and does remind me of a Ben Gordon/ Carmelo Anthony type player…meaning he needs the ball in his hands and takes a lot of offense away from his team to buff his own stats line.
I mean he would be good, and if we have a lot of cash next year to surround him with some very solid players we might make it out of the second round….
I just doubt there is much of a future in Rudy Gay+Rondo as our core unless we get some very good top 10 picks by moving the big 3.
I dunno if Memphis makes this move. They have a star in Rudy Gay who will give them years of service. They also have Gasol+Zeebo locked up for years now.
I guess their problem is the shooting guard spot and they don’t have faith in Mayo.
(he is backing up our old back up guard)….
I am of the belief
I am of the belief that AInge is almost certainly going to have to trade to use his cap space because Dwight Howard and other elite FA’s aren’t coming to Boston. The best of the rest in next years FA crop are restricted so their teams will almost certainly match any offer unless you way overpay which is never a good idea.
How do you bring that core in 6 months
… with only Rondo, some weak bench players and a washed up big 3 as yr assets?
This team needs some draft picks, not a FA star.
Memphis have a star in Rudy Gay.
Not in million years, Grizz trade future allstar Rudy Gay for washed up Paul Pierce.
Glance at the standings, ZBo-less Grizz put together on 6 game winning streak because of Rudy Gay play. He is leading their team right now.
I agree...
its crazy why some would not trade pp for rudy but i certainly think if danny had it his way and a trade like this presents itself, he would pull the trigger in a heartbeat.
The Grizzlies ain’t gonna trade for a washed up pierce..even if it saves them some money
by bopna on Jan 22, 2012 9:17 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Nope
The wouldn’t trade him for anything, especially Paul. Besides, have some loyalty, people. Let Paul retire in Green
Besides, it’s a bad idea and we would regret it later.
I don't follow rules, I let the rules follow me.
loyalty??
First of all players are rarely ever loyal to teams or the fans of those teams.
Secondly loyalty to older, past their prime players breeds mediocrity. No one who experienced it wants a return to the 1990’s which were a direct result of being overly loyal to washed up former superstars. That wasn;t the only reason the 1990’s sucked for the Celtics but it was a major reason for it.
by CelticsFanNC on Jan 22, 2012 10:24 AM EST up reply actions
Agree totally.
Teams demonstrate loyalty to their players by being honest and respectful toward them and their families while they’re on the team, recognizing and enabling them to play to their strengths, not bad-mouthing them in the press, making sure they get the best possible medical care focused first and foremost on their health, etc..
Not doing a favorable trade is not a show of loyalty. If anything, it is being disloyal to the other 13 or 14 guys on the team.
Trade him to the Blazers
Trade with portland they got young athletic Studs
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=6vh2tjc
KG:http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=86lqqzb
The bucks would do it, because they are missing one ore two peaces of the puzzle they could get in 2012 F/A class/
Allen:http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=7vw6mzw
plus draft picks if you guys have any
I don't understand...
Explain like I’m five how we got from trading one of the
Big 3 to Paul asking to be traded…
We all will be saying GO GAY GO GAY GO GAY through out the game if we get GAY.
PLEASE DO NOT MAKE ALL OF US CHANT “GAY” “GAY”
Come on
As if no one has heard that joke before. Really?
Can some one explain like i'm 5 how in the world the Griz take this trade
So they would trade Gay an over payed Stud in his prime, for a old Veteran that is having one of his worst year in his long career, are you guys day dreaming or what.
These are realistic trades you would get for Paul
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=7flfdzr
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=7wjynr7 21 Mill on expiring contracts
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=7ljw8ja
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=7hu9k8p
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=6uoysde
If Gay is over paid...
than what is Paul Pierce?
Kevin Love should be a primary target for us.
After today's ...
…game does anyone want to change their vote?
no way in hell
rudy gay is not worth 19.3 million a season , thats gotta be the worst contract in the history of sports
i think you should all shut up after today's game
he played excellent and he’ll do it many more times
I don't follow rules, I let the rules follow me.
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