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Ray Allen: It's Not About Age

Ray Allen is 36 years young, and growing backwards.

The common refrain this year has been about the team's old age is slowing it down. Ray Allen isn't ready to concede that point just yet.

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"I don't think it's about age," Allen said Sunday. "If you look at some of the things we have and have not done, it's not an age thing; it's a same page thing. If you watch us in games we've lost, it's bad ball movement. Offensively, we haven't scored. In some games, you could say we've had good looks. But then in some games you'd say we haven't worked well with each other to make simple plays."

Aldridge goes on to point out a few undersold things that the Celtics are doing well that might have been lost because of the all-important win totals.

A group that still does so many things well -- entering play Sunday, Boston was sixth-best in the league in points allowed, 12th in field-goal percentage allowed and eighth in assists per game. They are smart and tough and well-coached.

Perhaps there are some sunnier days ahead. If we could just get that offense headed in the right direction...

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Been preaching this to myself and others for weeks.

Really hoping that it’s what he is conveying that is true.

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by JoshZavadil on Jan 23, 2012 6:08 PM EST reply actions  

Yep

Almost half of our roster are “new” to the system and didnt have a full training camp. We saw how Green last year struggled getting to know the system.

by The green mamba on Jan 23, 2012 6:18 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

beg to disagree with Ray...

it is about age… Kg specifically has lost all of his explosiveness and has missed so many bunny shots he used to make with his eyes closed.

by bopna on Jan 23, 2012 6:34 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

I think

If you look at the struggles the C’s have had, though, KG is the only one that seems to be solely age-related. We knew JO had hardly anything left in the tank even before last season, so I don’t count him.

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by JoshZavadil on Jan 23, 2012 6:44 PM EST up reply actions  

JO is aging, but he's still a very experienced defensive player if uninjured, and will contribute.

Everybody’s written him off, and while he’s no longer the two way all star he once was, he knows where he has to be defensively, and that’s where the Cs need him.
It’s on the rest of the team to carry the scoring load, which will happen as the team really jells.

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by lygafe on Jan 24, 2012 2:01 AM EST up reply actions  

Obviously, it's both

You can’t separate out the age issue and say it’s not relevant. It is relevant, for all the players (and for all of us) and that’s not really debatable. Call it a basic premise, or a biological truth… it is what it is, and what it is is always real.

by JR99 on Jan 23, 2012 6:55 PM EST reply actions  

Ray

It is oldtimer don’t fool yourself your starting to look slow curling around to shoot we can tell
we see IT…… no hustle to get back just like PP and KG ……

by juanpan on Jan 23, 2012 6:59 PM EST reply actions  

Defense is getting better, but...

the whole sixth in points allowed has a lot to do with being 28th in pace (meaning 28th slowest).

Right now the C’s are a very average defensive team that is obvious capable of being a top-notch defensive team; of course, a lot of that is dependent on KG and right now things don’t look to great.

by muckduck on Jan 23, 2012 7:03 PM EST reply actions  

well, if KG and Ray

grew their hair back, maybe they’d at least LOOK younger.
:-)

by Snowball on Jan 23, 2012 7:26 PM EST reply actions  

It seems like Mr Allen doesn't want to be traded

Points allowed are not the best way to juge defensive performances. You have to take into account the pace as well.Why do not talk about that in the post? And I’m not even talking about offense, we all know how it is.

Making excuses, that’s what that is.

by lepooo on Jan 23, 2012 7:27 PM EST reply actions  

If age was the sole issue exPlain to me why a young team like the knicks are struggling as bad as us?

by The green mamba on Jan 23, 2012 7:47 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Because they kinda suck?

Now let me elaborate.

Their two best players are pretty much the same player and so much so that it’s a bit uncanny. Of course, the Heat have that problem too in that Wade and Lebron are incredibly similar players but the main difference is that Lebron and Wade are both top five players in the league while Carmelo and Amare both hover around the top twenty to fifteen mark.

Carmelo is an isolation player that relies the triple threat and a very underrated post game (he has the best post game of any perimeter player), but he’s a ball stopper and a pretty average passer despite Walt Frazier’s claims otherwise (I live in NY and I hate listening to this man rhyme every damn word). Amare also thrives on the triple threat and while he doesn’t have much of a post game he’s the best pick-and-roll big man (emphasis on the roll here) in the league. Problem is that they don’t have a ballhandler that can give him these opportunities.

Not to mention that this team has major holes in it concerning depth, its incompatibility with D’antoni’s optimal offensive system, and that defense. Tyson Chandler and Iman Shumpert can’t make up for Carmelo and Amare’s defensive deficiencies.

Two completely different situations my dude.

by muckduck on Jan 23, 2012 9:17 PM EST up reply actions  

So it still falls on the system. Which I was pointing to as the main culprits of our weak play. Guys arent familiar with it cos we have a bunch of new players. Once they get used to it we should be fine and find ourselves in good shape. Im just really tired of all these trade talks. We have all we need. We just need time.(maybe a center wouldnt hurt).

by The green mamba on Jan 23, 2012 9:46 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

nice first half

can they keep it up all game?

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by Jeff Clark on Jan 23, 2012 8:47 PM EST reply actions  

Who the hell wants to trade Ray Allen

Trade all our rookies, they’re of no use anyway. And Jermaine O’Neal too, if he can’t keep up at center…

by SparzWizard on Jan 23, 2012 8:51 PM EST reply actions  

Because thats totally practical and plausible...

The Boston rookies and role players have virtually no trade value so whats the point? Getting even worse role players the complement the Big Four? Thanks, but I’ve gotten attached to the Dooling-Bradley backcourt.

by muckduck on Jan 23, 2012 9:19 PM EST up reply actions  

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