When you are right, you are right

People forget that Ainge made some mistakes drafting ever since the big 3 got together. They were mostly low picks so it is hard to get impact players, but he did pass up some guys (the biggest one is deandre jordan but there were a couple more). Doc hasn’t been able to emulate Popovich and play certain young guys heavy minutes or minutes during crunch time, part of that has to do with Ainge striking out. Just remembered Lester Hudson, oh man.

A thousand times, THIS.

I’ve literally gone back and reviewed Doc’s use of rookies and 2nd-year players over the years and it is patently false that he is biased against them. His usage profile is almost identical to other good coaches like Popovich.

It’s very simple in this league – independent of Doc: The NBA is dominated by veterans.

The teams that play a lot of rookie minutes tend to be the bad teams or teams that have a specific positional need to fill (such as due to injury). Otherwise, contending teams just don’t give many minutes to rookies.

All you have to do is go look at all the playoff team rosters and add up the minutes given to rookies. Every year, it is tiny, tiny, tiny.

When the Celtics sucked, Doc gave more minutes to youngsters- that’s how Perk, Tony and Big Al got so many young minutes. Since they’ve been a contender each of the last 4 seasons, the youngsters have gotten far fewer minutes as a share of the team minutes. But Doc STILL has indeed been willing to go to the youngsters when he’s had to. Just last year he had no qualms about starting Semih Erden. He had no qualms about starting Rondo as a rookie and leaned on him even more in just his 2nd year on a title run! Doc gave Glen Davis 940 minutes as a rookie and over 1600 minutes as a 2nd year.

This year he’s had even more reason to go to the youngsters and he has, indeed, done so! Bradley (essentially a rookie, given he only played 162 minutes last year and is by age still the youngest player on the team), Stiemsma & Smooge have all gotten over a 100 minutes in this very young season. At the current rate AB will end up with close to a 1000 minutes and even Smooge will be close to 500. For a 66 game season, those are significant chunks for a youngster. And who knows? Those numbers could easily bloom if someone gets injured.

The idea that Doc is biased against young players is simply a myth. It has no foundation in fact.

moving forward, you still have to look at past success. And we wouldn’t have won it all in 2008 and wouldn’t have reached the finals in 2010 without doc. He’s a proven winner and he has to be the number one option moving forward. Besides, who else is available? Jeff Van Gundy?

Looks too raw right now, and he definitely needs to bulk up. Right now he can be pushed around by nba small forwards, let alone 4s and 5s.

Never mentioned or compared Rondo with Bradley. I recognize both issues and none of the answers on any of these posts are anything but opinions based on prior knowledge. If you want to post- say something worthwhlie… and make sure it’s at least a little coherent.

Coherent means clear, or with knowledge… just in case

Bill walker sat than played here and there…but at thime nate was a bigger need on the team than walker so he was traded…. Gerald green not in the nba, giddens not the nba, you can make a case for Jefferson, west, gomes, TA, perk & rondo sitting but it did take time for all those players to reach there potential. And some are still growing. You might be more mad at the drafting of ainge than doc getting these players ready. Stiemsma spent years over seas learning what it takes to be a pro. Jjj looks shaky when he is out there. Moore has played well and earned time. Bradley when he was in there never had stretches like he is playing now. So why would you take rondo or ray out to let avery look bad and lose confidence. So you want doc to play every one one the roster no matter what. I think the twolves do that. No other team plays 14 deep yet you want the celtics to do that.