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What the Celtics would look like if they signed Dwight Howard

Bass is obviously going to opt-out. The thin free agent market in 2012, his age, and his production make it a perfect time for Bass to get a long-term deal. He’s worth at least $6 million a year, but will probably get $7-8 million a year someone else.

That leaves $35,810,385* on the books after we renounce Green’s rights, leaving approximately $25 million in cap space. Celtics use $18-20 million** to sign Dwight.

Whatever is remaining goes to Jeff Green:
-$5-7 million ONE-YEAR deal to prove himself for his next contract…
…OR…
-$5-7 million LONG-TERM deal to lock himself as a Celtic.

Even though the first option is the much more likely, in regards to cap space, it doesn’t matter. This is what the Celtics roster would look like at this point:

Rondo, Bradley, Moore, Pierce, Green, JJJ, Dwight, and our three draft picks. This leaves the rest of our roster to veteran’ minimum contracts.

Celtics will try their best to sign whoever they can out of Ray, KG, Pietrus, Marquis, and Stiemsma (for minimum deals).

Ray and KG may be worth anywhere from $4-8 million to other teams. I don’t see them leaving the system and family life they are ingrained in for a few million out of the $180-270 million they’ve made. They love playing with the Celtics and have repeatedly said they want to retire here.

Ray and KG understand if they sign with the Celtics for more than the veteran’s minimum, it hurts the Celtics' rebuild, as it eliminates the possibility of signing Jeff Green who is an important asset to keep.

Marquis isn’t worth much more than the veteran’s minimum due to his production, age, and health history. He’s a team and fan favorite who also loves playing for Doc. I see him staying for the vet’s minimum.

Pietrus and Stiemsma are different stories. Both will probably field offers higher than the veteran’s minimum. Regardless, the deal will stand from the Celtics. Here’s to hoping they can resign with the Cs.

Here’s to hoping our roster miraculously looks like this:
Rondo/Avery
Ray/Pietrus/E’twaun
Pierce/Green
KG/JJJ
Dwight/Stiemsma

Plus our three draft picks. That’s fourteen people, leaving the Celtics one slot to find another big man.

GO CELTICS!!!!

*Source for that number: http://www.celticsblog.com/2012/1/27/2752081/how-much-money-do-we-have-for-free-agents-anyway

**Whatever the max the Celtics can pay him is.

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Nicely thought out.

I am fully against the Celtics going all-out to sign Dwight Howard and I have written about it numerous times*, but I do believe that the starting five in your squad above would be the best starting five in the NBA next year. [My concern is not for next season, but locking up Dwight for the foreseeable future – I don’t believe Rondo + Dwight = good things. But, with the Big 3 returning for one more year, most of the pressure comes off Rondo and Dwight, and all they have to do is fill their roles. Dwight is a step up from O’Neal.]

Your squad lacks bigs off the bench, and bringing back Bass would be an absolute must if they intend on actually contending for the championship. JJJ and Stiemsma aren’t ready to be 20mpg guys yet, and KG will need some rest and Howard often gets into foul trouble.

Ainge won’t want 6 very young guys on his squad – Bradley, Moore, JJJ, +3 draft picks – so I expect him to trade a few of those picks or perhaps a player of two for a dependable big. I’d love for the team to keep Bradley, Moore, and JJJ, but the draft picks are expendable if they bring back a solid, contributing big to come off the bench.

You’ve made a good start for the team. Now, round out the bench.

*Howard is not needed in Boston!

I know a lot of fans have been panting over the possibility of Dwight Howard joining the team at some point in the next 6 months, but why? What would a team of Rondo and Howard accomplish?

The entire point of having a true center that draws double-teams is that he can kick it out to open shooters. That is a system that is near-impossible to defend when done right. What good would Rondo be with Howard? Rondo cannot hit open shots. And a true PG of Rondo’s nature won’t be needed to dump the ball into Howard for alley-oops and dunks. Jameer Nelson can do that just fine. Will Dwight be running the fast break with Rondo? Not likely. Will Dwight clog up the lane, making it more difficult for Rondo to penetrate? Absolutely. Rondo would be better served alongside PFs/Cs like Kevin Love, Blake Griffin, Al Horford, or Marc Gasol, guys who can do an equal measure of running the floor and hitting the outside shot.

Did Shaq ever win with a top-flight PG? No, he won with score-first SGs. Did Hakeem win with a top-flight PG? No, he won with a stable of shooters (but mostly he did things himself). Tim Duncan (not a true C, but often played the position) won with both a score-first PG and a terrific SG. No other center-dominated team has won the title in the past 30 years, unless you count Moses Malone’s 76ers back in 1983 (and they had Dr. J, Andrew Toney, and Maurice Cheeks). There is no precedent for a pass-first PG and a true C ever winning the championship during the past 30 years.

I think these fans have on beer goggles, thinking how great it would be to have the Big-3 and Rondo and Dwight Howard. That’s an unlikely scenario, even if only for next season. But that roster – Rondo + Big 3 + Howard – would be the only one that could possibly win a championship. Once the Big 3 leave, we’ll basically have Orlando North.

by Wicklow on Jan 27, 2012 2:26 PM EST reply actions  

I’d like to point out that Rondo is a better player than anyone the Magic have ever paired with with Howard, and once the big 3 retire, we’ll have plenty of money for a top-flight shooter to hit all those outside shots that Howard and Rondo will create. Other than that, I agree.

by Merovech on Jan 29, 2012 2:33 PM EST up reply actions  

My only disagreement would be

to try and keep Bass; he is rapidly proving to be the C’s best trade lately.

by gocanes1 on Jan 27, 2012 3:52 PM EST reply actions  

I say we sign Ray and KG...

But we trade up in the draft so we have a shot at a quality player to back up or start for the SG position

by Little ticket on Jan 27, 2012 4:03 PM EST reply actions  

And ya keep bass

I would much rather have bass then Jeff Green

by Little ticket on Jan 27, 2012 4:04 PM EST reply actions  

dont see bass staying

hehas a player option for $4m next season and is having a career year. my bet is he opts out to cash in

by craziness@analltimehigh on Jan 27, 2012 7:26 PM EST up reply actions  

love it! now get the plan out to KG, Allen and Howard!

by soloking on Jan 27, 2012 4:26 PM EST reply actions  

wat i would like

pp,allen,kg,rondo, dwight

pietrus, green, bass, moore, bradley , jjj, steamer

Ihope we get dwight because thats the only way he will win a ring or more. I hope ainge and doc can convinve him. Ideally KG AND RAY WILL TAKE THE MIN FOR THE CLUB and will retire celts.

by jeharry on Jan 27, 2012 6:50 PM EST reply actions  

Dwight isn’t coming there is no lame club scene in Boston. Dwight is lame screw that guy.

by Whetzell on Jan 27, 2012 11:23 PM EST reply actions  

I can't keep reading after "minimum deals"

All these scenarios where KG and Allen sign for the minimum are total fairy tales. Who’s going to sit down with Kevin Garnett in the off season and ask him to be paid the same as Greg Steimsma???

by sofutomygaha on Jan 28, 2012 10:09 AM EST reply actions  

Can I tell you what we would *actually* look like if we signed Howard?

I’m not sure that you’re going to like it as much. It would be something like this

1. Rondo, Chancey Billups, Bradley

2. Moore, Daniels, Pietrus or similar

3. Pierce, a rookie like Jeff Taylor, and a vet min guy

4. Johnson, Bass, a random cheap big like Steimsma

5. Howard, a rookie like Tyler Zeller, and a vet min guy (Ben Wallace?)

by sofutomygaha on Jan 28, 2012 3:08 PM EST reply actions  

Caveat

Is Dwight ready to lead? Dont think so based on this “"I told them at halftime, `If you don’t want to play, just stay in the locker room, because it don’t make sense for a team who we should beat to just demolish us."’ ”http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/recap;ylt=AvCXXGyv5.yC5kMmiK7ZQCW8vLYF?gid=2012012703" target="blank">http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/recap;_ylt=AvCXXGyv5.yC5kMmiK7ZQCW8vLYF?gid=2012012703

There’s leading by example and leading by making everyone else better and there’s pitching a hissy (while turning in the standard 20/10). Smells like the Nuke LaLush syndrome: million dollar body and a 10 cent head.

"Celtics bring order and structure to a chaotic world"

by Tenacious D on Jan 28, 2012 11:13 PM EST reply actions  

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