Celtics Only Interested In Chris Kaman If He's Bought Out
by Jeff Clark on Jan 28, 2012 9:50 AM EST
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PrintThe Celtics got a needed boost at center with Chris Wilcox last night, but they are still kind of thin at the position. So it would only make sense to look at Chris Kaman, who has been officially been put on the trading block by the NBA err, New Orleans Hornets. Gary Washburn reports that the Celtics are interested, to a point.
#celtics will pursue Chris Kaman if he is bought out by the #hornets but not by trade
Is there a chance that he could be bought out instead of traded? It wouldn't seem as likely, but the Hornets are backing themselves into a corner by shutting him down until he's traded.
New Orleans Hornets center-forward Chris Kaman not with team | NOLA.com
New Orleans Hornets backup center-forward Chris Kaman is not with the team right now because of an organizational decision, team officials said Friday night. The Hornets are expected to pursue trade offers for Kaman, who has an expiring contract that pays him about $14 million this season.
Also, it seems that the league offices running the Hornets are going to drive the same kind of hard bargaining that they pulled with the Chris Paul trade.
As NBA/Hornets survey trade market for Chris Kaman, Rockets, Pacers, Jazz, Spurs are a few teams with interest, sources tell Y!
To be clear, Jazz checked on Kaman some time ago but doesn't make sense now. Detroit likes him, needs center. Most teams have found Hornets asking price for Kaman too high. "They were asking for draft picks, cap space and a young player," one executive says.
That's way to steep a price for the Celtics right now and it sounds like it might be too high for anyone. So there's a chance they could find no offers and decide to waive him, though not likely before the trade deadline. So don't hold your breath for it any time soon. And even then we'd have to compete with the Heat and other contenders looking for a short term solution at center.
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also, kaman's contract has a trade kicker which is why he now makes $14m instead of $11m
ifhe’s traded again, wont it jump 15% again???
by craziness@analltimehigh on Jan 28, 2012 10:09 AM EST reply actions
No, trade kickers only apply once
All the negativity in this town sucks. It sucks, and it stinks, and it sucks. - Rick Pitino
Kaman is a classic example of a player that some team is going to overvalue and offer way more money than he is worth. He isn’t terrible … but his shooting percentages are worryingly low, even around the basket, and though he is a decent rebounder he is very turnover prone.
Also, he's made of glass...
25+ missed games in three of the past four seasons, including 50 last year.
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Surprised if Hornets are not trying to trade Okafor also.
What are the chances that Hornets will amnesty Okafor?
If they do, will they do it during the season or wait till the offseason?
Not exactly Howard or Yao, but picking up Kaman or Okafor would not be a disaster if we can get them for pennies on the dollar
by florida dodger on Jan 28, 2012 10:33 AM EST reply actions
You can't amnesty players during the season
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Chris Kaman
Above it says his salary is $14 mill. Not to bring up the CBA stuff again, and the fact that the owners are complaining they aren’t making money, how in the world is Kaman worth $14 mill?
As far as his coming here, and I know it won’t be via trade, who on the roster do we give up?
I don’t know who has a non-guaranteed contract, but with that aside, who would we want to give up for Kaman? The only answers I can see are Sasha or Dooling (only if his injury is season-ending). I, personally would not give up Sasha for Kaman.
"I don't come to play, I come to WIN"--Larry Bird
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I think many here are underestimating Kaman
Every time (not many I admit) I’ve seen Kaman play, he’s been terrific. And he has been a NBA All-Star Center. He’s got KG range on the jumper and knows what he is doing around the basket. I do not know about his defense. Not saying it’s bad, just don’t know.
I'm not the Devil's Advocate but I consiider him a close friend
I live in LA...
Kamen is damn underrated, at least he was. He rebounds and has a great jumpshot. Every game i’ve watched him hes been great for his team. Plus our system makes centers look good.
by Sarcazmo's Funhouse on Jan 28, 2012 3:15 PM EST up reply actions
Can he got to a large market team?
David Sternleone??
What’s the god father’s position on this?
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by David Henderson on Jan 28, 2012 11:24 AM EST reply actions
C's interested in comedian Chris Eliot?
by TripleOT on Jan 28, 2012 11:32 AM EST reply actions 3 recs
He makes Chris Elliot look handsome in these two pictures.
Kaman in the picture above looks like something out of the remake of the movie Deliverance…..
“You sure do got a purty mouth”
Is it Soup Yet?
I was thinking he looks like he has just released from a years stint in a POW camp.
by KY Celts fan on Jan 28, 2012 12:23 PM EST up reply actions
he does look wasted on the above picture
not the comedian ;D
by kheldar52077 on Jan 28, 2012 11:39 AM EST up reply actions
I can't believe
that someone posted that they wouldn’t give up Sasha on this roster for Chris Kamen. Let’s be serious. Sasha is a 4th string wing, sitting behind MP3 and Quisy on the bench, while Kamen is a solid NBA center with size and a lot of offensive ability.
For those who haven’t noticed. The Cs have almost no low post offense, and even Kamen, who is mostly s mid-range shooting center, can generate offense in the low post. If Kamen is bought out and wanted to come to the Cs for the vetmin, it would be a gigantic coup. I’d guess that he’d probably opt to play with his buddy Dirk in Dallas and try to help them repeat.
Bigs have more value than smaller players of similar
Or even more skill. The fact is there is a very limited supply of legitimate centers. I would like to see what we have with Moore though so its hard to say.
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by jakeshuttlesworth on Jan 28, 2012 7:23 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
As Bob Newhart Would Say
I think that would be me. I would not give up Sasha for Kaman. You never know what will happen, but the Celtics seem to have solved the Center position. Bass and Wilcox seem to be helping on the boards and even with JO out whoever is playing Center is now getting help from KG. In the last 3 games they have controlled Howard, Hibbert and anyone else going for offensive rebounds. The opposing Centers haven’t scored or rebounded to a point where it’s effected the game’s outcome.
Sasha can play. He just hasn’t played enough to get into an offensive rhythm. He’s a solid defender, knows where to be, blocks shots and rebounds.
Our guards take a beating when they play. Rondo is out now as is Dooling. I know Sasha is a 2 or 3, but he could be valuable, especially if he gets to play more. He knows the system.
If Kaman comes in it won’t be soon. We now have guys who’ve played together enough to pretty much know the system, Doc has simplified the offense and the team is starting to get it’s chemistry. If Kaman comes in late I doubt he’ll be able to contribute much. His present team isn’t even allowing him to play so he’s not going to be in game shape. He definitely won’t get the chemistry by playoff time. That’s the reason I wouldn’t move Sasha off the roster for Kaman.
"I don't come to play, I come to WIN"--Larry Bird
"Criminally Negligent Officiating"--Tommy Heinsohn
It's a long shot...
but if the Celts can add Kaman without giving up anything (via a buyout from the Hornets) then they have to be considered true contenders for the championship (health permitting).
Kaman would give the Cs the one thing they currently lack – a true big man to team with O’Neal. Center would no longer be a weakness. If they both stayed healthy, center would become a strength.
Starting 5: Rondo / Allen / Pierce / Garnett / Kaman
Bench: Bradley / Dooling-Moore / Pietrus-Daniels / Bass-Wilcox / O’Neal
Rarely Used: JJJ / Stiemsma
Cut: Sasha (or send JJJ down to the D-League for some playing time)
That is a solid collection of 15, capable of beating anyone in the league in a 7-game series.
yes.
I want him to play for Boston. But asking price will be too much so pass. If he’s been bought out and becomes an FA on the other hand, then yes.
Kaman???
No way…Yuck!
Dude is as fragile as JO, and as slow too. At least JO can take a charge and block a shot every now and then.
As a buyout signee…maybe, but who are we going to release? Sasha? I actually think Sasha may have more worth.
" Hell yeah I'm trying to gain an advantage out here. If you can't handle it, get off the court."- Kevin Garnett
"Stats are for losers."- Rahim Morris (FORMERLY-Tampa Bay Buccaneers)
It's a wash
I’d take the chance on kaman. Jo is a momentum killer. He’ll have a great game and then live off of that great game for awhile before he decides to have another one. Very inconsistent
And people here thought Sheed was a zombie
Although that was more for his uninspired play.
Kaman on the other hand, actually does look like a “real” zombie. Scary!
" Hell yeah I'm trying to gain an advantage out here. If you can't handle it, get off the court."- Kevin Garnett
"Stats are for losers."- Rahim Morris (FORMERLY-Tampa Bay Buccaneers)
Kamen
is rebounding at the second highest rate in his career this season, and scoring at his career per minute rate, although shooting a lousy percentage. He’s a veteran who has just been shipped out as trade ballast in a contract year to a scrub team going nowhere, and going young.
It’s not too much of stretch to see him doing well on a contending team for 40 games or so. The guy is still 29 and should be able to get another $25m or so in guaranteed money at a minimum if he can get on the court and produce the last half of the season.
Let’s just hope he doesn’t want to take his talents to South Beach for the spring after being bought out.
Kaman now!!
JJJ doesn’t play.. Put the guy in the d-league to get some experience..
Kaman is exactly what we don’t have.. We need him..
An alternative is throw away Stiemsa, the guy not played well the last games, only making fouls.. No blocks..
The asking price...
Steve Kyler: The asking price for Kaman according to teams that have called is an unprotected first round pick this year and a young player
That’s way too much for this guy:
All the negativity in this town sucks. It sucks, and it stinks, and it sucks. - Rick Pitino
by Roy_Hobbs on Jan 28, 2012 1:24 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
RIP, Coach Auerbach, but...
this guy looks older than Red.
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by Army_of_One_Nation(Celtic's Nation) on Jan 28, 2012 1:57 PM EST reply actions
KG at center?
I’m in NYC and haven’t seen any of the games, but I’ve read about the recent wins.
Is KG playing center? If so, it seems like he’s playing it well. Why not just shift him to center for the season, now that we have Bass to play PF. Then we have JO, Wilcox, and the human eraser to rotate as back-up centers.
All we’d need is a back-up PF, which could be Wilcox, and is way easier to find that a center.
FYI
KG plays a bit at Center, but not much. He’s much more valuable to the team as a power forward.
With JO, Bass and now Wilcox the C’s are doing okay at Center. Also, KG is playing much better and has been helping out whoever is playing center with help defense. Also, the team, lately, has been doing more gang rebounding and Pierce has really been helping there. Playing Center would really take to much out of KG, it would limit his moving around the floor and helping out at both ends and there’s really no need for him to play the Center position, which is not is natural position anyway.
"I don't come to play, I come to WIN"--Larry Bird
"Criminally Negligent Officiating"--Tommy Heinsohn
that makes sense.
I just assumed that KG was playing better, because he was playing center and that that position required less defensive roaming for him. I know he’s always been a brilliant help and even perimeter defender. One of the best ever to play. However, I thought his age would show less at center than at PF.
KG is about 37 or 38 in NBA years, because he went pro at 18.
KG
At Center KG would take too much of a physical beating by guys like Howard, etc. His energy is better utilized at power forward. And he is all over the court like a cat, setting picks, help defending, etc. When the season started KG pretty much said the shortened pre-season would take it’s toll on him as far as timing, chemistry, game shape, etc. It looks like the season has started for KG. I think he may have lost some of his jump, but his quickness and reflexes are now back. For awhile he looked like he was walking in molasses.
"I don't come to play, I come to WIN"--Larry Bird
"Criminally Negligent Officiating"--Tommy Heinsohn
Too Add
KG has always seemed to me to have an energy problem, probably because he plays with such intensity. Age is probably a factor, but I don’t thing it’s that big a deal. If he doesn’t get hurt he can work around the age problem. Also, as to age, look at Grant Hill and Steve Nash. Both are older than KG. I also think Ray Allen is older, but when he took his physical this year he did so well on the stress test that they thought there was something wrong with the machinery. The Doc’s (MD Docs) couldn’t believe it.
"I don't come to play, I come to WIN"--Larry Bird
"Criminally Negligent Officiating"--Tommy Heinsohn
He could help the Celtics but I don't think it's going to happen
Some team is going to pay too much for I would bet. The Celtics are wise to not try to acquire him through a trade. He’s a solid player, always seems to have good games against the Celtics, but having him singed for more than this year would be a mistake for the Celtics.
Yea that skin doesn't look like it respond well to being singed! Lol
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by jakeshuttlesworth on Jan 28, 2012 7:25 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
If Boston is serious about Kaman......
Best chance is trading for him. If we wait for him to be bought out, Miami is the better situation. He not only gets to start right away but he can play heavy minutes and has a better chance record-wise at a shot at a ring.
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