What are we thinking?

by Moses Freeman Jr. on Jan 30, 2012 1:53 PM EST

Too many of the trade Ideas are trying to get value for value or talent for talent for our big three. I certainly wish that could happen. However, I doubt it. IMO, we must settle for assets such as draft picks and promising young players who have yet to crack their teams rotation-hopefully with expiring contracts and team options. as an example Houston has two first round picks in 2012 yet have seven(7) players with team options. Houston Needs a big impact player to make the playoffs and to go deep. Thus, a KG trade might work. for their picks and a couple of your players giving us their team option for 2012.There are several other teams like the Wizards with lottery picks and young players and even have several non impact players with about 8 Mil expiring contracts. I know they are in our division (sic) but they have that lottery pick which might be somewhere around 1-3. Utah also in a similar position. I would also look at the competing teams to see what they would have. Chicago still need a three point threat like Ray. Lakers and clippers could certainly use a Paul Pierce Golden State might could use a Jermaine O'neal for spot duty when is he can play.

Finally I would not rule out New Jersey who might want to get a Pierce or Allen With Jermaine thrown in for their picks.

Essentially looks for assets and expiring contracts from rather than look for value for value which is not going to happen.

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garnett

the problem with garnett is his contract is huge and most contending teams cant afford to add 21 million without giving up a few of the pieces that make them contenders. that really leaves us with using his expiring contract to get back a huge trade exception, a few draft picks and a teams bad contracts. I think we should trade washington garnett for singleton, lewis and their unprotected first round pick

by JuJuan some moore on Jan 30, 2012 3:48 PM EST reply actions

here's an idea:

trade no one.

discuss…

by JunkyardDawg on Jan 30, 2012 4:43 PM EST reply actions

+1

PALESTINE FOREVER

by ZM15 on Jan 30, 2012 9:10 PM EST up reply actions

+1,000,000

by DJKAHN on Jan 31, 2012 1:46 PM EST up reply actions

If

you are saying Trade no one, (and assuming that you are not suggesting we keep the same team next year) you subscribe to the thinking that we keep Rondo, and sign younger guys. The problem is that there are no Big time FA’s that play C or PF. So if we were to keep Rondo and add athletic wings and SF, we almost certainly need to get rid of Allen and KG (plus others). So who do we sign? Do we rely on draft picks? I think some sort of trade could help us tweak for the future- since we may lose a bidding war or overpay for upgrades.

by P stoff on Jan 30, 2012 5:22 PM EST reply actions

i don't agree at all

first of all, the biggest name free agent plays center, and he just said the other day that he would love to play here.

second of all, you have no idea what KG or Ray are going to command on the market, nor do you know where they want to play. Ray has said repeatedly he wants to finish his career here, presumably meaning he’d be willing to sign here cheap. KG is said to be considering retirement. There’s a great chance that both or either of those guys will be back for cheap next year, helping to mentor the young guys, transition to the future and ideally helping us stay somewhat competitive.

Third, we have 2 first round picks in a very deep draft next year. Unless we make a dumb trade this year, we will have plenty of money to work with. With Rondo, Bradley, Moore and possibly JJ, we also already have young guys who can play. There is no reason not to be positive about all of this.

At the end of the day, let’s hope we have a team that can contend for championships for years to come. But let’s look at reality. Even if we somehow got D Howard, Jeff Green, Josh Smith, J.R. smith and Rondo next year (‘best case scenario’ or pipe dream?), would that team be good enough to win a championship? Would it be coach-able? Would they buy into a team-first mentality? Could they get past the Heat or the Bulls? The Clippers or OkC? Could they possibly be as enjoyable to watch as the team we’ve had for the past 4 years? I hate to say it, but the answers to each of those questions are more likely to be no than yes.

So what I’m saying is why are people in such a rush to think about next year? Enjoy the great basketball that’s being played by the team in front of you, that has already won a championship!

by JunkyardDawg on Jan 30, 2012 5:59 PM EST up reply actions

love to play here

is kind of an exaggeration. dwight only said he would consider it. BUT i do agree with you that theres reason for optimism. so much cap space… if danny spends it wisely we’ll be in good shape

by rm81 on Jan 31, 2012 12:19 AM EST up reply actions

No argument with your post

I am in no “rush” to change, however by next year we need an impact player(s) that will allow for the older players to be supporting players. If the big three is kept (however cheap they come)- Rondo and Pierce should be the only starters. Then, if we are forced to sign players with “upside” (like Green, Chandler, Thompson), they can more easily transtion to starters while gaining knowledge from the vets. We definetly need more rebounding/shot blocking on this team… just don’t know how we get players to fill the need without giving up something. BTW- Howard said he ‘could see a chance playing in Boston"- but ’ love to play" is a bit strong. He is in it for the limelight, endorsements, etc— which is exactly why I don’t even want him in Boston. I’ll take two guys like Thompson/Jordan/Mosgov/Kantor over him any day- as long as we have the guards to create offense.

by P stoff on Jan 30, 2012 7:19 PM EST reply actions

Change is coming

We will be starting to change either by March 15 the trading deadline or by July 1 the start of 2012-13 NBA season. Starting by March 15 we have chips to use after July we lose our chips and get nothing in return. I love my Celtics and always have since 1956 but we must know when to say when and when is now. There is nothing to prevent Ray and KG from Coming back at a reduced role and pay. in fact the teams who would use them would only want them until the end of this year, but by trading them now we get at least draft picks in a deep draft our picks to trade for other players et al. after July we get nothing. I would also look for other deals for all the other players as well-Including our Captain. wqe can still retire his # in the rafters and we should.

by Moses Freeman Jr. on Feb 1, 2012 6:51 PM EST up reply actions