Trading For Nash and Gortat

Wait till off season. Let the guys play the season out

rondo most overrated player in the nba, even more than perkins. Look what perkins is doing this year. The big 3 deserve some help for a final run. Gortat and Nash provide this!

Right now, I’d rather have Nash than Rondo.

Rondo is playing with no heart and it shows out there. Nash is playing out of his mind and doing his best to win. Where is this kind of Rondo?

Rondo is standing around and waiting for Ray Allen to get open. Nash penetrates and moves the ball around. Where is this kind of Rondo?

Yes, Nash is incredibly old but he IS playing a whole lot better than Rondo. Rondo is a better defender but lately, for most of this season and last season, he has gambled a lot and doesn’t pressure often on defense. For fuck sakes, Jose Calderon scorched the kid and THAT’S inexcusable.

Not only do we get a better PG that’s playing well this year (honestly we NEED to win THIS YEAR – the Big 3 are getting too old, guys), we will get GORTAT, an actual Center that can really help the Celtics with their rebounding woes and his good offense. We will ACTUALLY have a Center.

Those two for Rondo… I’ll take it!

The player taken with the clippers pick will be better than either rondo or perkins regardless if we keep the pick or not!

but he does not have the leadership nor the willingness to assume the leadership position. His reaction to perkin’s trade, his non existence improvement in his fg n ft , his ups n downs, show that he is not matured yet as a professional. We need to change, trading for Gortat solves the Center position, and stabilizes PG. Don’t why the Suns want to do it though.

I take nothing away from Nash but for anyone to believe that Gortat is a championship making center, well, it boggles my mind.

Rondo has had two bad games. And yes, as I wrote in a post after the Lakers game, the Lakers kill us because they don’t defend Rondo—AT ALL. That coupled with the fact that we do not have a low post offensive threat or a board clearer on the defensive end and we will never match up well with a team with the Lakers height advantage in the paint (unless we have a lights out shooting night from the outside).

All of that being said, let’s judge Rondo on the past two games and not what we perceive to be his temperamental shortcomings. The Perk trade and his perceived reaction to it are done. I don’t think we need Rondo to be the “leader”—-yet. We need him to be the catalyst and when he is (not the last two games) we look like a championship contender even though we have obvious low-post deficits. Rondo IS our fast break. He’s playing without a teammate night in and night out who can make it up the floor with him. He’s running into three defenders up the floor before his aging teammates make it to half court. Trading away Rondo is trading away our only speed for very old legs. We are also forgetting that Nash doesn’t play defense half as well as Rondo, even Rondo on an “off” night.

I think Rondo gets a lot of the blame because when he’s really on, we look so good. But let’s not forget PIerce’s sub-par performances the past two nights. If Pierce had even an average game, we would have beaten the Lakers and this trade “idea” would seem even more silly.

Rondo for C. Paul made sense. Rondo for an aging S. Nash and a center who will get beaten up in the playoffs. I don’t think so.

Do this trade.

Nash is averaging more assists in less minutes per game. He’s played 8 more games than Rondo, with nearly 100 more assists and only 20 more turnovers. He has a lower turnover per rate and higher assists-per 48mins played. Nash is within the top 50 for scoring league leaders and Rondo is not. Rondo has a slight edge in rebounds in steals but assists and scoring are more important from the point guard position, and if this trade were to go down Gortat would make a HUGE difference on the inside. Forget about age for a minute and just let that stats do the the talking. How could you not want Nash over Rondo? Nobody believes we’re winning it all this year so why make a trade that greatly improves this teams two glaring weaknesses (a point who can shoot and a center who can rebound) to better compete in the playoffs? If it works out, we have banner 18 and Nash, Allen and Garnett all come back for another year for cheap and our success convinces Dwight Howard to come fill in the missing piece of the puzzle and compete for 1 or 2 more titles. If it doesn’t, Nash, Allen & Garnett all come off the books this summer anyway and we have more cap space for the rebuilding process. It’s win-win, and believe me when I tell you Rondo is a great player and all but he is NOT the future face of the franchise!

S. Nash Career numbers 14.6 pts, 8.5ast, 3rb, 1stl, 49%, 43%3pt, 90%ft
S. Nash numbers 11/12 14.6 pts, 10.3ast, 2.6rb, .6stl, 56%, 45%3pt, 87%ft

R. Rondo Career numbers 11pts, 7.6ast, 4rb, 2stl, 49%, 24%3pt, 62%ft
R.Rondo numbers 11/12 13pts, 9.5ast, 4.6rb, 1.6stl, 49%, 23%3pt, 59%ft

Steve Nash is a better fit for this teams STYLE OF PLAY AND ITS PACE than Rondo is. That is a fact, not an opinion, how many times have we watched Rondo race up the floor only to pull up, throw a wild shot off the glass, hoping it somehow goes in or pull it back out while waiting on the rest of the team to catch up??? How many times have we seen Rondo dribble the ball in one spot for 12 seconds before passing it to someone? Don’t get me wrong, I love what Rondo brings to the game 70% of the time, its the other 30% when he is not being aggressive, not being assertive, when he is pouting or is indifferent to doing the right thing that is unacceptable. I would think that our Celtics would have a greater chance at banner 18 with a Nash and a gortat than the way our team is currently constructed. IF we have a chance to win this year, then DA should pull the trigger, if the trade makes us BETTER this year as a TEAM, DA has planned on rebuilding this summer for years, this trade even helps in that regard, creating more cap room, or DA could bring back KG, Allen, Nash, etc… for another run next year….

Pho gets a near all star PG locked up on a reasonable contract for the next 3 years, while we get a good young center also with a reasonable contract

I can’t believe that so many of you are seriously discussing a nash for rondo trade..I for one am ashamed for most of you..and you call yourselves celtic fans?!

And a Nash for joneal trade but Shh… don’t tell the suns that. Lol

We actually have a chance to win in the post season when the game slows down to a half court game.

And the only players that can run with him are jjj, Moore, bradley, Wilcox and pietrus. We will get eaten alive come playoff time. Steve Nash & gortat fit alongside KG, Allen and pierce, with a genuine chance to win it all. Just look at last years playoffs, that what we are looking at this year except we might not make it out of the first round this year…..