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The Importance of the 6th Seed

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We’ve seen it be true many times before -- seeding and home court advantage are nice in the playoffs, but the most important thing is to be rested and healthy. We saw how true this was in 2010 when the Celtics made it to the NBA Finals as a 4 seed, beating two teams who held the HCA on their path. Then in the Finals, one could argue that it came down to Lakers having game 7 at home, but I (and many) think the injury to Perkins was the more significant difference maker in that game.

The Celtics are by no means a favorite to win the championship this season, but certainly have a "puncher’s chance" if the stars align. The last lockout season had an 8th seed New York Knicks make it to the NBA Finals, so weirder things have happened. There are a few things that are either necessary for the Celtics to win a championship (like Rondo playing at the top of his game consistently) or could greatly improve our chances of winning a championship. One thing that will greatly improve our chances of winning a championship could be grabbing the 6th seed in the East.

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Nobody knows exactly what the standings will look like when season is over. But there are two things I’m fairly certain of and those are that Miami and Chicago are the two teams that will give Boston the most difficulty in the playoffs and that those teams will claim the 1-2 seeds in the East by the regular season’s end. Normally, a team would ideally like to avoid those teams in the first round, but wouldn’t find it disastrous if unavoidable because the path would likely go through those cities anyways. This season looks like it could play out a little differently. As it stands, the bottom 6-7-8 seeds in the East are Orlando, Boston, and NY Knicks. If the Celtics can make up the current 1.5 games they are behind Orlando for the 6th seed, that would mean that Miami and Chicago would have to play Orlando and New York in the first round.

In my opinion, Miami and Chicago are considerably better teams than New York and Orlando. But that’s why they play the games -- in the playoffs, upsets happen. If we want the Celtics to have the best chance at a title, I feel we want to maximize the chance that Miami or Chicago get upset and I think that chance is highest if they have to play NY or Orlando in the first round. In the playoffs, great players step up their games and rise to the occasion and both of these teams have great players that can do that.

In Orlando’s games vs. Miami and Chicago so far this season, Dwight Howard put up 25 pts, 24 rebounds, on 63% shooting in a win against Miami and 28 pts, 15 rebounds, on 61% shooting in a loss to Chicago. If Dwight puts up stats like those and Ryan Anderson starts burying three’s, I have no doubt that Orlando could possibly win a series against either of those teams.

The Knicks, on the other hand, have lost to both Miami (without ‘Melo) and Chicago so far this season. One wouldn’t see much hope for optimism there, but Carmelo Anthony and Amare Stoudemire are elite players in the NBA capable of carrying an entire team on their back to a win. I’m not particularly high on how this team has been constructed, but it’s not unthinkable that Melo and Amare could explode in 2 games out of 7 each in a series and lead their teams to wins in those games. Plus, Jeremy Lin seems to be emerging as a legitimate player and threat on that team and Tyson Chandler’s defense and championship experience could be of significance come playoff time.

In order to get these matchups, the Celtics have to play good enough regular season basketball to get the 6 seed. If they can surpass that and get a 4 or 5 seed, that’s wonderful; but, the difference between a 6 and 7 seed looks like it will be of much greater difference than the difference between getting the 3 and 6 seed because getting the 6 seed could open up the potential for Chicago or Miami to be knocked out in the first round. This is, of course, contingent on Atlanta, Indy, and Philly continuing their good play and Orlando and New York playing just mediocre enough basketball to finish in the 7-8 spots.

I’m not saying that the Celtics can’t win a title if they have to play Chicago or Miami. I’m just saying that the Celtics would have a better chance at winning a playoff series against Orlando or NY Knicks than against Chicago or Miami. Especially since it would award Boston home court advantage being the higher 6 seed. I’m not saying the Knicks or Magic have a great shot at upsetting those teams either. But I think they have a better chance than any other team in the field because of their superstar players capable of raising their games to extremely high levels.

Of the potential pairings between Miami, Chicago, Orlando, and New York, which matchup do you think would have the best chance of sporting an upset in a playoff series?

As an interesting side note, in the last lockout season (1999), the Knicks as an 8 seed upset the 1 seed in the first round. Who was that 1 seed? The Miami Heat. Do you believe in history repeating itself?

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yeah, it could work

but 4th and 5th would also be fine

I don't follow rules, I let the rules follow me.

by relja111 on Feb 13, 2012 8:25 PM EST reply actions  

CHI vs NY, MIA vs ORL

Should be interesting matchups to watch then.

Boston meanwhile fight for their lives against 76ers, Pacers, or ATL…in which all three of them are tough opponents, being that the 76ers and Pacers are dark horses this year.

Celtics-Heat ECF, a rematch of last year.

Then by some miracle…
Celtics-Lakers 2012 NBA Finals, a rematch of 2010 Finals, and this time getting #18!

by SparzWizard on Feb 13, 2012 9:41 PM EST reply actions  

Miami looked unbeatable tonite vs Bucks

Me thinks only a debilitating injury to one of the 3 can stop them

by gocanes1 on Feb 13, 2012 11:20 PM EST reply actions  

we can beat miami

if everyone, and i mean everyone plays their part and works hard. it’s the only way

I don't follow rules, I let the rules follow me.

by relja111 on Feb 14, 2012 10:35 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

Interesting article...

I’m glad this post was recommended because I’ve asking myself these same questions recently. The “What if factor?” If the Celtics were to be 6-8th seed? Could they make some noise in the final chapter of this Big 3 era, and call me crazy, but I feel they can.

I know they’ve played like crap especially during the first few games of the season, but they came on once they played Orlando and Indiana. I was watching espn’s Mike & Mike show I usually keep my distance from espn, but this morning I couldn’t because Bruce Bowen was guest and he’s likeable. They were having a discussion about the eastern conference.

Mike Green suggested that he looks at the eastern standings, but feels the only team that can truly beat the Bulls or Heat is the Celtics, and everybody on the panel agree. Now I think the Sixers are great, but I feel that don’t have enough to beat the Bulls or Heat in 7 game series. The Hawks I’m not gonna bother. Magic? depends on DH12. I think the Pacers are deep and big enough to upset the Bulls not sure about the Heat.

Then theirs the Celtics with Rondo, KG, RA, PP, BB, CW, JO. If these guys can play with the same energy they did against the Bulls, a sense of urgency, then they have a good chance to knock off the Heat or Bulls.

by C'sFanfrmNy on Feb 14, 2012 11:57 AM EST reply actions  

If NYK and Orlando don’t finish in the 7-8 seeds, then the 6 seed is irrelevant to me, because no other teams have a chance at beating Chicago or Orlando, so if the celts advance as the 6 seed, they’d have to play one of those teams anyways.

The only importance of the 6 seed is IF Orlando and NYK finish 7-8, because they are the only other 2 teams in my eyes with the potential (albeit slight) to knock off Chicago or Miami, which would give Boston an easier road to a title.

by action781 on Feb 14, 2012 1:02 PM EST reply actions  

So you are writing off the sixers?

by johnnymost on Feb 14, 2012 2:33 PM EST reply actions  

Maybe just accidental neglect?

History says you can’t win without a superstar, but to write a team off simply because of history is to completely ignore the fact that they’re easily the third best team in the Eastern Conference and maybe the fifth best team in the entire NBA.

by muckduck on Feb 14, 2012 6:07 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm not exactly writing them off...

I’m not writing them off as a team that cannot possibly beat the celtics, but they aren’t such a threat that I think it would drastically increase the celtics chances for a title if Philly could be knocked off by another team. With Miami and Chicago, I believe this is the case because I think both are better teams than Boston, where I don’t believe that Philly is — and everyone would agree that at least they aren’t better than Boston to the degree that Miami and Chicago are.

More to my point is that Philly is playing good basketball and probably not going to slide down to the 7-8 seed. Even if they did and I had to choose between Philly, NYK, or Orlando playing one of Miami or Chicago, I’d choose Philly last. I think the other two teams have a better chance of an upset.

by action781 on Feb 15, 2012 1:02 AM EST up reply actions  

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