Everyone Loves JaJuan Johnson
What's that you say? Two posts in the last 6 hours on a rookie that only played garbage time and might not see the court for another few weeks? Why yes, why not? Everyone loves this kid because he's tall, skilled, and has that mystical quality that rookies that don't get playing time but show flashes of talent have.
The question is, can we hope for an Al Jefferson or Kendrick Perkins type of development? Or is it more along the lines of J.R. Giddens? Or perhaps something in the middle like Bill Walker? Doc seems to be confident in him.
Johnson turns heads with his solid outing - The Boston Globe
"I told you last week, JaJuan will play, I really believe this,’’ Rivers said. "Sooner than later. You can see it in the silly practices that we have. He just keeps getting better. His energy is unbelievable. He’s an offensive weapon. He can shoot the ball. He can run the floor and where he’s really improved is his positioning defensively on the post. JaJuan’s going to be a good player, I really believe that and maybe this year.’’
That is encouraging for the young man. Especially after he hasn't looked all that good early on. He chalks that mostly up to jitters.
Johnson making case for a rookie role - Boston Celtics Blog - ESPN Boston
"It’s good for me, personally, to have a game like this," Johnson said. "I definitely want to be a contributor on this team, so I’m going to do all I can to put extra time in and help this team win games. "I've been feeling a little bit more comfortable lately. I would say the last two or three weeks, it's been really good for me. Starting the season like I did -- I had a couple of airballs in there -- I think it was just a little jitters and being so tight coming off the bench, stuff like that. I’ve just tried to see a few shots fall."
He's looking to teammates for teaching and inspiration.
Green Street " JaJuan Johnson makes the most of his opportunity
"[Garnett] is always there to answer any questions I have," said Johson. "He gives me advice. During the game, I messed up on a play, and it was definitely my fault. But he told me to stick with it and keep playing, and I did that." The rookie also has the added benefit of seeing hard work pay off even after rookie hardships with the play of Avery Bradley. Bradley struggled with injuries and sporadic playing time his rookie season, but in his second year Bradley has become a significant contributor to the Celtics. "You can either be like, ‘Man I’m thrown in the game at the end of the game, and I should be getting more playing time,’" said Bradley. "Or you can go and play like JaJuan did. I think he played so well. It’s hard because you are just being thrown out there and you don’t want to make any mistakes."
I'm rooting for him, I just hope he can learn the defense well enough to be able to contribute offensively at some point. Maybe this year, or perhaps not till next year. It wouldn't hurt if he added some muscle mass too. He'll always be skinny, but some meat would help.
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The hope is that he turns out to be something like, or approaching, KG
Crazy? Not really. Same body type. Same basic skill set. And, most important of all, he is being tutored by none other than…. KG.
I'd love that, but it's not realistic
They do have similar size and body type, but Garnett showed his huge promise much, much earlier.
JaJuan is 22 years old today. When KG was 22, he was in his 4th NBA season, averaging 20 points and 10 rebounds with a PER of 22.6. He’d already shown he was special. The fire, the basketball smarts, the defensive intensity – all there.
JJJ might be good someday. But don’t set the bar that high. If he had KG-level talent, we’d already know it.
Also 3J's 6'9" w/o shoes.
KG’s got either 2 or 3" more height.
Just under 2
W/O shoes, KG was measured at 6’ 11". JJ was measure at just over 6’ 9".
JJ’s weight is similar to what KG weighed back then and he should be able to add a few pounds, but he’ll never grow that extra couple of inches. That said, JJ has an extremely high standing vertical as well as tremendous leaping ability. He probably doesn’t really give up much in the vertical game.
I don’t want to predict JJ will ever have the kind of HoF career that KG has had. That’s too high a bar.
But his style of play and skillset does mimic KG in so many ways and there is reason to hope he’ll have a great NBA career.
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Yeah, though I thought 3J was 6'9" even.
Anyway, wasn’t KG’s measurement from back when he was still in high school and isn’t he rumored to be taller now? (Closer to 6’13" in shoes?)
And you’re right, they’ve similar builds and games in a way, though KG on a completely different level.
I think KG’s intelligence hasn’t been given full due either. I consider him the most interesting player on the team because of it.
KG is almost certainly a bit taller in shoes
but it is unlikely that he has grown any taller.
Human males pretty much completely stop growing in height after age 19. Most by age 17.
It is, of course, possible for someone to grow a sliver of height after that age, but it is extremely rare. And to put on an inch or two?
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I totally concur about KG's intelligence.
He is a very, very smart basketball player.
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Jjj and kg
Its actually not farfetch to imagine JJJ ave 20 10 like KG when he was 22.
Remember KG was doin his thing because he was thrown into the fire early so he developed early. The circumstances were different.
If we are a non playoff team with our core being just Rondo, Moore, Pietrus, JJJ and Steisma..don’t u think JJJ can easily put up 20 and 10.
I think his learning trajectory is more like when we had Reggie Lewis as a rookie. Just riding the pine and learning from the original big 3. They were also both 22 yrs old drafted late in the first round. I am feelin good about JJJ and the last time i felt good this good with a new player was when DA drafted Big Al.
by bopna on Feb 2, 2012 9:52 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Jjj and kg
Its actually not farfetch to imagine JJJ ave 20 10 like KG when he was 22.
Remember KG was doin his thing because he was thrown into the fire early so he developed early. The circumstances were different.
If we are a non playoff team with our core being just Rondo, Moore, Pietrus, JJJ and Steisma..don’t u think JJJ can easily put up 20 and 10.
I think his learning trajectory is more like when we had Reggie Lewis as a rookie. Just riding the pine and learning from the original big 3. They were also both 22 yrs old drafted late in the first round. I am feelin good about JJJ and the last time i felt good this good with a new player was when DA drafted Big Al.
by bopna on Feb 2, 2012 9:52 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
he was
big ten player of the year and defensive player of the year and an all american so its not like hes never done anything. he was dominant in college and while i doubt he will be one of the top 100 players to ever play like KG is he still is a special player and could be a very good starter for a lot of years
by JuJuan some moore on Feb 2, 2012 2:25 PM EST up reply actions
Good night for his stats:
With a 31.06 PER, 3J is now ranked 6th in the league.
nxt year jajuan will be great but right now his jst showing some signs.
he needs consistency and more PT and need to bulk up a bit next summer and going to training camp as well.
I would love ...
for the C’s to find JJ some time this year so he can get his feet wet in the NBA,
Next year with KG maybe gone they will need JJ to add depth to the 4 position, so it would be nice to let him get some minutes to have a chance grow and develop a bit this year.
I recall when JJ was one of the players on my Celtic draft wish list, when he was selected I was of course happy, because his game game reminded me a bit of KG’s.
But then I said, I better tempt down my expectations.
But after seeing him a bit more with the C’s, I really think with the offensive and defensive skills he has along with his super speed, athleticism and length he really has a chance to possibly develop into another KG type player.
And if that could be the case, it would be dynamite.
Let's remember
That was one terrible Toronto team. Yes, his made baskets looked skillful but when you are playing a team not very skilled who isn’t mentally into it (like the Cavs were) then they aren’t using their hands or feet at NBA normal speed.
I would say that he’s a year away, but I think we had a good draft with both Purdue guys.
Stiemsma looks better to me than the paltry minutes he’s getting. He is not a clod with the ball in his hands. He is not a clod with footwork and he has been schooled on positioning and keeping the ball safe when he gets it (remembering the young Perk).
I think Avery Bradley (with a 15-20 ft jumper developed) will be a good 2010 draft
and Danny should make value out of the 2012 picks.
Danny DO NOT BUNDLE these young and picks for some playoff run piece. We went 6-2 with Rondo out (and Dooling out). Sure, the Big 3 and Bass were critical to that but the young guys showed game.
The biggest under-achiever on the roster to me is J O’Neal. Yes, he takes charges but he isn’t bringing it.
don't worry (well... worry)
Garnett will miss games at some point this season. When he does, Johnson will be in there just like Bradley is now.
I don't think we all need constant reminding of how bad the Toronto team is
and that this was in garbage time.
I think we all know that.
Nevertheless, you can still look at it as a scrimmage that is happening at NBA game-speed. Even the end-of-bench players on the Raptors are among the 450 best basketball players in the world.
You can still look at how a player is performing individually to assess his raw skills and in that light there were some very good things to see in JJ’s play. In the span of those 9+ minutes we got to see him:
1) Post up starting near the elbow, get to the basket with a dribble, spin move and score.
2) Shoot a sweet fall-away jumper from 12-ish feet from each side of the paint.
3) Take a rebound from down low, deep under the post, while swarmed with a double team and get it up and in. That takes strength and determination and I don’t care WHO is defending you there. The two raptor bigs had great position over him and he still managed to juke and fight his way up.
4) Execute a nice curl and slash play with Stiemsma that twice generated foul calls.
Those are all NBA skills that reflect what he can do, independent of the competition. We still don’t know how ultimately good he’s going to be at doing them. But he’s at least good enough to do them against some NBA players.
All that said – this was just a chance to see some of his potential. The reality is that he’s buried as 4th string PF (behind KG/Bass/Wilcox) and he’s only going to get playing time in blow outs. And that’s okay.
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The only way Rooks play in Doc's rotation
Injuries….and Blow Outs….
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