Callahan: Time To Trade Rondo

before the next season starts (at the latest).

I think that there are two possible directions he be traded: to the Thunder (for Westbrook) and to the Nets (for Deron).

Rondo might have every reason to be annoyed and impatient. Actually the way we have been playing, he should be. He just has to use that as motivation for his own work (“be the change you want to see in the world”).

I can’t imagine a possible trade scenario. I doubt OK would part with Westbrook.

If we get equal value in return which is unlikely at this point because everyone outside of the “Celtics bubble” believes we’re done and a fire sale is imminent.

Good point.

Was that a joke? This is a blog, written by Blogger’s, with links to articles written by other basketball bloggers….

So a credible journalist weighs in and you say, “Who is he to say anything?” hahahahha…. nice one.

Here is a fail proof life strategy: ask Callahan what to do, then do the opposite.

…that would be my answer. Since none of the others match, I am once again forced to abstain. (But I’ll get over it….)

whatever Danny does ,any trade is done with the thought of how it helps get the next player here this summer.Take a bullet if needed but don’t blow our only player chip in Rondo.

My guess,he adds Kaman after he’s released and trades nobody.If he acquires a top player,I say it’s DWill

He is only being moved for a superstar.
The fact is you simply cannot get the same value back for Rondo in any kind of trade.
Danny will build around him, using him as the second fiddle to a superstar of some kind.
He’s just too valuable for all his faults.
This clown hasn’t offered any trade suggestions. Should we trade him for some McNuggets? How bout a late first rounder? Or maybe Robin Lopez?
The only way he is moved is for someone like Deron Williams or Chris Paul, in order to try and attract another superstar free agent.
Right now he is just too good for this aging squad and it’s crippling him to have to play with these guys as he enters his prime, they are just a little too past it now.
All NBA defensive team, top 3 passer, best offensive facilitator in the NBA, top 3 in the NBA at the one man fast break.(Lebron, Westbrook, Rondo).

Sometimes people just don’t know what they have till it’s gone, you all act like it’s so easy to replace an All Star point guard like Rondo.
Can someone please tell me what we could realistically get in return for his talent and age and contract ? He is just too good for the money we are paying him.

Agreed.

It almost seems like they are not listening to Doc anymore, or they are just too old and beat up to will their bodies to move fast enough to keep up with anyone else. There must be a book circulating around called “How To Beat The Boston Celtics” written by all the ex-Celtic assistant coaches who have gone on to become head coaches.

OT (because I’m too lazy to find the correct thread): After watching some of the game last night – most of the first half – I saw why Doc doesn’t play the bench too much. It’s because they don’t play well enough to be out there. It is time to flip the switch from “coddling aging superstars” to “training NBA players”. The key last time was maximizing the abilities of the players they have, and then using them as trading chips to get name players to win it all. Everyone on this present team should know that they are going to be either traded or dropped during this coming offseason. It is part of the plan. So, showcasing, moral victories, and hiding weaknesses/maximizing strengths will be the game plan for the rest of the year. Danny will not pull the plug mid season. He will wait till the end of the year and throw the cars on the air, and play 15 card pick-up

Even though Rondo has a very tradable contract, I don’t think Ainge can get anything close to equal value back for him. On a League that values offense over everything else, Rondo will only have value on a team that has plenty of scoring, but little D or playmaking.

As horrible as it is to say, I think their most willing trade partner might be to the Knicks who will need defense & playmaking to make it to the next level. Lin as good as he’s been, isn’t going to take them to the Conference Finals anytime soon. What NY can give back in trade is the question. I’m pretty sure Isaiah Thomas gave away most of their high picks for this decade, which is something Ainge needs to have if he’s going to rebuild.

I’ll guess we’ll see….

Garnett = out of town/DNP
Wilkox = hurt during game
JO = hurt during game

Sorry to break it to you.

… and you’ve got to wonder what ownership thinks about Rondo as the new “Face of the Franchise.” I mean, he is an otherworldly talent (some nights), but is he the guy that you’re putting up on the billboards to sell tickets? Casual fans aren’t buying tickets to go see this guy pout. It also seems pretty obvious that he’s a handful to deal with behind the scenes.

If he gets traded, it’s going to be because they got good value (maybe not equal value, but good value), and because they’re scared to death about what his attitude’s going to be like when he doesn’t have the veteran leadership beside him.

Pierce had his own immaturity issues, and they gambled that he could grow into his leadership role. That’s notable because it doesn’t usually happen like that. Just because Pierce grew up doesn’t mean Rondo will.

Seems simple. He’s moved if Ainge gets the return he’s looking for. Rondo is inconsistent. Some nights he’s all world with the fancy passes and drives to the hoop. Some nights he’s just not engaged with turnovers and such. I feel he’s overrated by most. He’s very good, just not as good as a lot of people think. Ainge has always favored offense and shooting. He has a favorable contract so we keep him? It also makes him easier to move. We need quality size more than anything. If he can fetch that great. If not, keep him here.

He seems tired and hurt and alone. The ball also seemed to move better with Bradley bringing it up and Pierce as point forward. That’s workable in some situations. Rondo and O’Neal for Jefferson would be alright with me. Don’t know what Utah would think.

Only Pierce or Rondo or both of them will be traded if we speak of “BLOCKBUSTER TRADES” that could happen on the trade deadline. I’m already okay with the idea of Williams-Rondo trade, or Gay-Pierce (that has been posted weeks ago in this blog). I believe Allen and KG will not be traded since they have expiring contracts, which be of good use for the next free agency, and at the same time to provide that stability as veterans of the team in the present roster.

keep rondo- trade callahan. we traded paul westphal at about the same age as rondo and he haunted us a good 10 years tho out west: he was less a pain to us. we need height so bad -where is our inside game? teams can keep us out in the periphery and work on us out there because we have nothing inside. rondo is our best low post player and with paul looking like a pensioner, the only guy who can drive is rr. this has to be rectified, the sooner the better.

Celtics need change… Bottom Line Factor: AGE—-can not keep up with the ATHLETES in the League…Wait too long “PRICE GOES UP.” Real sad, Perkins let go for literally Nothing…I remember Ainge had trouble throwing ball out of bounds while playing on Celtics——HE REALLY THREW BALL OUT OF BOUNDS HERE!!! Celtics need a big man like a Dwight Howard or a Blake Griffin to replace Perkins.

there is zero chance Danny blows his cap space for Westbrook. We have a true point guard with a good contract and I can’t see Ainge trading him for a combo guard with a max contract that shoots under 30% on threes. Deron is another story. If that deal can be done then you do it and Danny will. With the shooters we have on this team, his assists will go through the roof. His ability to stretch the floor would probably give this team new life going into the playoffs. Don’t be fooled by all the games lost to injury. The goal is to be healthy come playoff time. The only goal for the regular season is don’t get Miami in the first round. I still believe this team will do some damage come playoff time.

But he traded Perk for offense and Perk was a homegrown defensive guy. He let Tony Allen and James Posey go in different years over money and length of contracts. I don’t see where Ainge was valueing defense over the offense. I had heard once a quote that was attributed to Ainge about shooters being like putting in golf. Just a stupid line that’s all. But everthing I have heard is that Ainge has become more amd more concerned with the dry spells of the offense during games that has been occuring for a long time now. Hence his attempts at fixing it. I hope he’s looking for a quality big that we can run our offense through in the post. I would give Rondo up for that type of player.

Hat tip to Celtics town with a great response:

http://www.celticstown.com/2012/02/21/if-you-want-to-write-a-trade-rondo-column-write-it-the-right-way/comment-page-1/#comment-167787

The only guard I could see Danny trading for is Dwill. No one else is worth the money

We probably wouldnt get what hes worth for one. And another thing is in rebuilding a team there are 2 most important parts one is a pretty good pointguard and two is a center. We already have Rondo who despite of not having an outside shot has done well for himself. I remeber back in the day Jkidd didnt have a very reliable outside shot either.

It seems that history tells us that a “great” post presence that lacks a “great” PG is far more successful than the other way around. Look at the Celtics (80’s) – Lakers (with Kobe) – Spurs, Magic, Rockets, etc. Magic’s lakers were the only team that had “greats” at both positions— and they still lost a couple to our celtics with a heavy post presence. If we could acquire a great post player, or a tandem post threat, Rondo IMO becomes less a factor. Look at Fischer, whose only job is to defer to others and knock down open jumpers. If we can’t get a post threat- build with athletic wings and Bigs—-

Rondo is an Unselfish and True PG. you wont find anyone else better that’s available right now in the league.

You know, this blog is more interesting than the games being played.

I tend to agree with those who are of the opinion that we will not receive a fair deal from our perspective in a rondo trade. The same could possibly also be said about a pierce trade. In the end, trading either is a risky proposition and clearly indicative of the direction Danny is taking the team. One player that I really have my eye on an whom the c’s have made offers for in the past (supposedly) is paul george in indiana. This seems like a pipe dream, and I may be alone in thinking this, but I would pull the trigger on a pierce-george swap based on the upside there, Indy may not make that deal but possibly would if they are going all in on this year…

Clover, out of curiosity, who are the defensive guys that you feel Ainge has kept making him a defensive minded GM? Just wondering. I agree about the Perk, Allen & Posey contracts. Everyone know they were about the salary cap. Still if Ainge values defense over all, wouldn’t he have kept one of them?

period . he’’s about 2 years away from his ceiling

Im telling you guys losing Rondo aint worth it. Like really which team would give us a fair shake? They know were hurting for a trade and we all know haste makes waste. So like ive been preaching the whole season be patient. The right time, the right deal is bound to come. As far as losing Rondo unless they wanna trade for Dwight I woudlnt do it. Maybe if the clippers go nuts and want to move CP3.

Who knows? Maybe Dwight ends up in LA. The Nets panic and trade Deron to us. Then we make another move, including the Big 3 and pair someone else with Deron so that he doesn’t walk out the door this summer. We then resign Jeff Green and draft Austin Rivers. That’s a dream scenario. That’s what I’d like to see happening. But who knows what’s really going to happen?

If not, just do something that makes sense because these pieces clearly don’t fit with each other anymore… we’re not contenders. The Heat and the Bulls are just way too good and a first round exit is not good enough with an old team. I don’t want the future of this team to resemble that of the Pistons, that’s why I believe trading Rondo makes a lot of sense. Again, nobody knows what’s available out there, but trading Rondo makes a lot of sense. It’s not illogical; it’s not crazy. It can happen and it might be for the best.

http://www.celticstown.com/2012/02/21/if-you-want-to-write-a-trade-rondo-column-write-it-the-right-way/