Celtics Are Finally Headed In The Right Direction
Looking back over the season so far, you can almost group the games together and see the patterns and trends come into focus. The first few games were high emotion, low preparation, and they just came up short. The next few games were against cupcake opponents so they were easy wins. The bottom line is that they were either too out of shape or too unprepared mentally to get wins during that 5 game losing streak - which may yet come back to haunt them.
From that point on, however, the team has won 8 out of 10 games and seems to be hitting their stride. They haven't looked perfect throughout. The Jekyll and Hyde routine played itself out even during individual games often enough. But that's kind of been this team's M.O. for a while now, so no big surprise there.
The overall sentiment I'm trying to get across here is that we're headed in the right direction. Are we "there" yet (where ever there is)? Not by a long shot. We've got miles and miles to go before we hit the playoffs and we've got some epic road trips happening in the 2nd half of the season. But we can be reasonably sure that Danny has seen enough from this team to not hit the detonate button (unless he gets wowed with offers he can't refuse).
I don't know if we're title contenders yet, but if the playoffs started tomorrow, there wouldn't be a team in the league that would look forward to playing this group. And that's a good start.
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spot on
this is about 2 seasons.Before April 1st and after.Get 35+ wins and take a shot come May,that’s the formula this year for everybody.Heat spank 76ers after losing 2 to the Bucks who lose to the Pistons.Knicks are 7-15 etc..this is nuts.We need Rondo healthy playing defense and making his FT’s and another Big to rebound.Right now we have neither.
Danny is in a perfect spot.He can add or subtract and either way it’s understandable.Next summer is when he’ll be judged
Yes, but need to hire a janitor
You know, someone to mob the boards.
"Celtics bring order and structure to a chaotic world"
A Few Thoughts
1. We are certainly getting it together, but definitely not there yet. I don’t think the C’s came to training camp out of physical shape, but certainly out of game shape. I think they are now, with few exceptions, in game shape.
2. One of the problems at the beginning, and still is, is individual and team timing. That will come
3. We are incorporating about 7 new players, maybe more if you include JO, and some I may have left out and that chemistry is not quite there. Wilcox, for instance, was starting to understand that if you are open you will get a pass. He did pretty well when Rondo was out and Pierce and Ray were essentially running the half-court offense. Rondo’s passes into the middle are different and Wilcox will need to get used to that and I’m sure he will. He can get us a bunch of easy baskets once he gets his old team out of his head.
4. As far as “getting there”, we never will. This is from the player’s point of view (and the coaches). We won last nite, but I’m sure there will be lots to talk about in where things went wrong. This has always been a mantra with this team. They want perfect and that’s great.
5. We also need to consider the quality and character of the guys that Danny brought in. This team really likes each other, they help each other and they are all about winning. No one is playing for a contract whether he has one or not.
6. Don’t know if they can take it all, but it’s fun to watch basketball being played the way it should. It may not be for 48 minutes or every nite, but there are moments when they are so much fun to watch.
"I don't come to play, I come to WIN"--Larry Bird
"Criminally Negligent Officiating"--Tommy Heinsohn
on point 5...
you have to give danny a lot of credit, look no further than Big Baby down in ORL getting suspended.
It was hard to see at the start of the season, but you look now and realize we have some REALLY solid players coming off our bench. I mean bass, pietrus and wilcox are as talented a trio of bench players as we’ve had in the modern big 3 era. and they have to be, because the big 3 aren’t all they used to be (although the captain still looks to be pretty elite).
"Take it to the hoop, there's a dance involved." - DJ Tommy
Yeah - I think when Doc talked early about how he "really liked" this team
I think part of that was how he really liked how the characters mesh and, in turn, seem to like each other.
Last year we had Baby and, at least early, the odd tension between Wafer and Delonte’. Nothing major, but this year everbody seems much ‘smoother’ together. Everybody seems more on the same page.
I concur with TrueGreen that much of the remaining ‘problems’ seem to be execution and timing problems. Especially still in the post help defense and in execution of our half-court offense (missing Rondo for so much has really crimped the development of the latter).
NBA Officiating - Corrupt? Incompetent? Which is worse? Does it matter? It sucks.
Just To Add
Danny’s patience is incredible. He does not react to short-term events. I think he knew this team was better than it looked and fortunately he is not one to panic. I would like to see him keep this team as it is till the season ends. It takes too long for a player to come in here and really get what’s going on. An individualist will kill the chemistry and a solid player will be reluctant to take shots. As Tommy says, “if there’s a 23 year old Shaq out there, go for it”.
But that’s not going to happen and I don’t see us making any changes, especially in this shortened season.
"I don't come to play, I come to WIN"--Larry Bird
"Criminally Negligent Officiating"--Tommy Heinsohn
I wonder if there's gonna be a "move" before the trade deadline...
not necessarily a trade… maybe an “out of nowhere” signing… cos I’m still hoping we can get one big, 6-11-above janitor-type of play guy
Status Quo??
TrueGreen, you may be right on this but I wouldn’t put anything past Ainge as far as making an in season move. This team really does need a quality big. Sideshow Bob, Jason Thompson, someone from Utah, not sure. Especially if we want to compete with Chicago and Miami this year. I don’t think any of the big three could fetch that quality. If any big deal happens it will involve Rondo. The debate on whether we would better with a quality big or Rondo going forward is for another time.
It's all about team rebounding
I don’t think one guy in particular is going to fix the C’s rebounding unless it’s Dwight Howard. You could try to find a Reggie Evans type, but that’s going to be a HUGE drop off from Bass on the other end. Their defense is on point now, so they force a lot of long shots and a lot of long rebounds. That means the guards are going to have to look for those and go after the loose balls. And of course if there’s just one guy who’s always crashing the boards, get a body on him and let your teammates grab the ball instead.
by Aluminum Penguin on Feb 4, 2012 10:57 AM EST reply actions
I'm not so sure barely winning an at-home revenge and rival game against a weak sister is proof of the team's championship caliber.
But Wyc was clearly bought in at the start of the year on doing whatever they can to win this year.
I bet ya he’s back on the wagon and pushing to go full speed.
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the easy part of the schedule just ended.
They are 12-10
Boy, I know that I’m excited.
that's a fair point
but at least we’ve got our legs under us now
I guess it could have been a lot worse – imagine if the hard schedule was during the first month – we might have actually blown it up at that point
Faith and Sports - an essay by Jeff Clark
We can go deep in playoffs
KG is not looking “a step slow” now. Pierce and Ray do not look over the last week like they have lost anything. The bench players brought in – Bass, Pietrus, Wilcox are solid (and I think Dooling too). Really solid. And, I agree w above comments, the chemistry appears better than last year. I’m glad to be rid of Delonte and Big Baby. (They were good players and not cancers but a locker room does not need such distractions.) And the young guys, especially Bradley, give us minutes and, just as important, hope. And Daniels, Stiemsma and Pavlovich will have their occasional opportunities. All are capable. I was at Toronto game and was surprised how big Pavlovich is. The one total under-performer is J O’Neal. But I believe patience with him will be rewarded. We do not need to dissemble assets to “rent a big man” to make up for what he’s not bringing now. I do not think he’s in shape.
i think we beat the Knicks because we had a bench and used it and the Knicks didn’t (or couldn’t). Execution at the end, except for Chandler dunking, just wasn’t there for the Knicks.
Celtics can still win..
Celtics can still win….at their own will….. Pierce, Allen & KG are legends on their own, and with Rondo, Bass, Dooling, Pietrus, Bradley, Wilcox and the rest of the team supporting them and continue to play as one solid unit, they can still get a way with a 30 point win or still can win 22 points down. So…..who said Celtics are old?
The way Pierce& Allen turn the ball around…and hit back to back 3’s..with KG&Bass hitting jumpers..Rondo&Bradley running the fast break, I would say they can still win… at their own will…The way the Captain leading the Celtics now, I know we will have another interesting playoffs…and finals too.
sounds about right, except
i’m not sure i agree with this: “but if the playoffs started tomorrow, there wouldn’t be a team in the league that would look forward to playing this group”
not many teams fear the celts anymore like they used to 2 years ago. in fact lesser teams have routinely come to the garden and beaten us.
but yes, no one will take us for granted as this core has been there done that once and almost been there done that once more.
I think he was pointing out the fact that their defensive execution is currently second in the league
but yeah, I guess
Believe
by Green Oracle on Feb 4, 2012 12:51 PM EST up reply actions
I think I was saying
that a week or two nobody was fearing us
now they might not fear us, but they’d rather play say the Knicks than us in the playoffs
Faith and Sports - an essay by Jeff Clark
yeah, good point
i could clearly see the difference in the recent games on defense.
on a related note, its just beautiful watching the celts on the defensive end when they do it their way and lock teams down, forcing them into bad shots and shot clock violations. i used to like watching offense and not defense as much when i started following basketball but ever since i started following the celtics, i have developed a liking for defense. and i can totally see how offense can come and go, but defense is something that can remain consistent night in and night out as its just about effort and communication. kudos to doc, thibs, kg and the whole team on that front!
obviously two completely different stages
but after watching the replay, did anyone else notice how eerily similar the Landry Fields breakaway dunk late in the 4th quarter yesterday was to Lebron’s breakaway dunk late in game 7 of the 2008 semifinals? both were Pierce turnovers at about the same place on the court and made it a 1 point game

































