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Probably Made Up Rumor: Rondo For Pau Gasol?

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Here's a doozie of a rumor:

NBA PM: Rondo For Gasol a Possibility?

General manager Mitch Kupchak may have inadvertently leaked one target to reporter Mike Trudell of Lakers.com.

To the question, what would he like to address before the trade deadline (March 15th), Kupchak answered:

"Well, if there were a way for us to get a 25-year-old, All-Star, ball-handling guard we’d love to do it … but that’s not likely in February. So you look at other alternatives, and see if it’s better than what you have. That’s all."

... Applying that logic to the Trudell quote, there is exactly one 25-year-old, All-Star, ball-handling guard in the league.

Rajon Rondo. ...

Additionally, sources have told HOOSPWORLD that the Boston Celtics do have interest in Gasol for their All-Star point guard.

Man, that would be a crazy trade. I'd love to see Pau in green, but I'm not sure about giving up Rondo. Also, I think there's a good chance that Kupchak was simply referencing the past Chris Paul trade that was vetoed. Paul is actually 26, but close enough. Lastly, I tend not to trust anything from Hoopsworld, so take this with a huge grain of salt.

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no way

don’t see how this helps us, now or in the long run. pau is on the wrong side of 30

by mc34 on Feb 7, 2012 6:50 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions  

no thanks

i dont want a faker here anyways

by GreenSlime on Feb 7, 2012 6:51 PM EST reply actions  

Better not be true

Pau is getting worse by the year and bradley or moore are not ready to be a starting pg in the nba

by Kgwillkillyou on Feb 7, 2012 6:52 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Pau makes close to 19 million and Rondo makes about 10

This would mean that it would probably have to be Pau for Rondo and JO unless there was a 3rd team involved

by galvinx10 on Feb 7, 2012 6:55 PM EST reply actions  

19m for Pau wow and hell no 10m for Rondo is a steal!

by Blackberry33 on Feb 7, 2012 7:10 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

LOL

that would be a rip off for us
who is he kidding? we don’t need pau, he’s lousy…

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by relja111 on Feb 7, 2012 6:56 PM EST reply actions  

Stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid that’s all I have to say to that rumor!

by Blackberry33 on Feb 7, 2012 7:09 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

whats so lousy about averaging 16 and 10?

by celticswavesurfer on Feb 7, 2012 7:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Horrible deal

Perhaps change it to something like KG+Rondo+JO for Gasol+Bynum?

by slamdunk1 on Feb 7, 2012 7:13 PM EST reply actions  

Lol That is a terrible deal also

Dont Want Kg under any circumstances

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by EmmCeee on Feb 7, 2012 7:16 PM EST via Android app up reply actions  

Kupchak would laugh at that.

The Lakers can get Howard for that kind of package. Why would they accept something way worse?

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by Ben R on Feb 7, 2012 8:01 PM EST up reply actions  

One thing is for sure

RR is not going to be in green by next year with all of these rumors

by vgarcia890 on Feb 7, 2012 7:15 PM EST reply actions  

what a silly conclusion

you taking bets?

"Chemistry is something that you don't just throw in a frying pan and mix it up with another something and throw something on top of that and then fry it up and put in a tortilla and put it in microwave, heat it up, give it to you and expect it to taste good. You know? If y'all don't know what I'm talking about then you can't cook and this doesn't concern you."

by KGHurtYourFeelings on Feb 8, 2012 12:44 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm being speculative

But you’re clearly ready to lose money

by vgarcia890 on Feb 8, 2012 5:20 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm always ready to lose money

Ask Horseshoe Southern Indiana

"Chemistry is something that you don't just throw in a frying pan and mix it up with another something and throw something on top of that and then fry it up and put in a tortilla and put it in microwave, heat it up, give it to you and expect it to taste good. You know? If y'all don't know what I'm talking about then you can't cook and this doesn't concern you."

by KGHurtYourFeelings on Feb 8, 2012 6:50 PM EST up reply actions  

I am guilty of wanting to trade Rondo to get some quality in return (CP3, Deron)

But this trade just does not make sense. We would lose it by far. It would be even worse than Kwame for Gasol. The Lakers would be much better with Rondo, Kobe and Bynum, andthey could always trsde for Howard. We would be old and soft as hell.

by Celticsdude on Feb 7, 2012 7:15 PM EST reply actions  

If a 27-year old Gasol was traded for a ham sandwich, why should we offer anything of value for a 31-year old Gasol?

by slamdunk1 on Feb 7, 2012 7:17 PM EST reply actions  

That's a bad argument since you're trying to compare two teams in diametrically different situations, but w/e.

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by Ben R on Feb 7, 2012 8:02 PM EST up reply actions  

HORRIBLE IDEA ALERT

Pau is 31 and is declining already. Are we going to start our “rebuild” around another old guy? Stupid. This is a horrible terrible raw deal for us no way. Just stop.

Absolutely will not help us now or in the future. I can’t even throw enough strong adjectives to describe how very foolish such a move is. Shutting it out of my mind. DUMB.

by p-peazy on Feb 7, 2012 7:19 PM EST reply actions  

How about this....

Pau, mcroberts, blake, barnes for rondo and pierce!

by Tony1975 on Feb 7, 2012 7:28 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

@Tony1975

I would only do that if they include Fisher, that guy has lots of potential. And if they include Murohy, I’d consider trading Ray as well.

by Celticsdude on Feb 7, 2012 7:33 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

had to rec this, lol

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by LakerAce on Feb 7, 2012 7:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Kupchak is saying it's NOT possible...

People misinterpreting this for its opposite meaning.

by Push on Feb 7, 2012 7:22 PM EST reply actions  

It's not likely in February

Maybe it is something other than “not likely” in the off-season.

by LooseCannon on Feb 7, 2012 7:39 PM EST up reply actions  

But last time I did say to trade Rondo instead of the Big 3...

But in that comment I also said for contending pieces.

NO. I DON’T ONLY WANT A 31 YEAR OLD GASOL.

by SparzWizard on Feb 7, 2012 7:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, no way Boston agrees to this.

It’d be a steal for us. (assuming it’s a straight up deal)

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by LakerAce on Feb 7, 2012 7:24 PM EST reply actions  

What?

"If you have a debate with a scholar, you can win. If you have a debate with an ignorant person, you will definitely lose."

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by LakerAce on Feb 7, 2012 8:30 PM EST up reply actions  

He’s a Laker fan, so yes it would be a steal for them going forward.

by muckduck on Feb 7, 2012 9:33 PM EST up reply actions  

pretty sure

he is referring to rondo. like pincus said Mitch is pretty literal. he has moved passed vetogate and looking ahead. not the first I heard that the Lakers FO was interested in Rondo. plus CP3 is more than just a ball-handling all-star. he is superstar pg who can score with the ease.

by dasasni on Feb 7, 2012 7:42 PM EST reply actions  

he could be referring to Kyle Lowry...

25-year old PG… though he isn’t an All-Star.

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by LakerAce on Feb 7, 2012 7:44 PM EST up reply actions  

I don’t think so. Horrible rumor that shouldn’t even get any print.

by mr1313 on Feb 7, 2012 7:49 PM EST reply actions  

Only way this is feasible is if Ainge thinks that Deron Williams is a legit possibility in the offseason.

As they stand, Boston will have $35M in cap room in the offseason. Swap say Jermaine O’Neal and Rondo for Gasol and that’s roughly $43M, so the Celts can throw about $15 million/year at Williams. Throw Bass in the deal instead of O’Neal and that’s an extra $4M in cap space. That or the Celts could use all that space to make a play for Nash along with a few other pieces like Kaman, Camby or possibly Duncan if the Spurs want to rebuild. Either way it’s a pretty risky proposition. The rationale would be that the big free agent targets aside from Howard are basically all point guards, so for Boston to use all the space accrued by Allen’s and KG’s contracts expiring, they would need to move Rondo for another piece, although leveraging the cap space to make deals and rebuild around Rondo would be a safer, albeit much slower strategy.

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by Ben R on Feb 7, 2012 7:59 PM EST reply actions  

NO WAY

just cant see pau in green
just cant see rajon in yellow
never trade with fakers

The Miami Heat can beat ANYONE.

(Except two or more players on a team.)

by shamgreen on Feb 7, 2012 8:00 PM EST reply actions  

May be a great deal for C's

A talented big is harder to get than a good PG. C’s make this deal, and offer picks to Phoenix for Nash. Pretty nice lineup Nash, Allen, Pierce, Garnett, Gasol.

by Accension13 on Feb 7, 2012 8:03 PM EST reply actions  

That's NOT a made up rumor

That is NOT a rumor.

Lakers GM just literally talked about what the lakers would need and love to get, while Rondo is a good fit. Nothing else.

Or am I missing sth?

by Karasu on Feb 7, 2012 8:07 PM EST reply actions  

The rumor is the last line...
Additionally, sources have told HOOSPWORLD that the Boston Celtics do have interest in Gasol for their All-Star point guard.

Of course, “sources” could mean some drunk guy on the RealGM forums.

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by Roy_Hobbs on Feb 7, 2012 9:57 PM EST up reply actions  

The last trade between the Celtics and Lakers

August 6, 2004: The Boston Celtics traded Chucky Atkins, Jumaine Jones and Chris Mihm to the Los Angeles Lakers for Rick Fox, Gary Payton and a 2006 1st round draft pick (Rajon Rondo).

(The pick that became Rondo was traded to Atlanta, then Phoenix, before the rights to Rondo were traded back to the Celtics on draft night.)

Arguably, the Celtics have gotten more value out of every trade they’ve made with the Lakers.

by LooseCannon on Feb 7, 2012 8:39 PM EST up reply actions  

I read Ainge's comments where he said that if he felt that he could get younger

he would do it and Rondo for and older Gasol goes against that. Not only that, but I think that Rondo would help the Lakers more than Gasol would help the Celtics. in my opinion.

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by Jelly Bean on Feb 7, 2012 8:09 PM EST reply actions  

+1

Rondo for Gasol would not be wise I think due to the age factor.

If Gasol was younger maybe since he is a talented big, but since he is not Id pass on such a trade if there was any truth to it.

by fordescort on Feb 7, 2012 9:48 PM EST up reply actions  

No.

No.

No. . . .no, no.

NO. NO!

NONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONO!!!!!!!!!!!

by DJKAHN on Feb 7, 2012 8:21 PM EST reply actions  

The worst possible trade idea

EVER!!!!! I personally do not agree with trading rondo at all.

Celtics fan from Brooklyn, NY

by Celtics_Diva on Feb 7, 2012 8:40 PM EST reply actions  

Wouldnt suprise me if Danny agrees to this.

Danny lately has been suffering from dementia.

by The green mamba on Feb 7, 2012 8:53 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

LOL - well, this is the kinda silly non-story that at least generates a ton of conversation

Whole lotta words typed for something that makes no sense for the C’s and is about as likely to happen as pigs flying.

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by mmmmm on Feb 7, 2012 9:45 PM EST reply actions  

Overstatements

I’m probably opposed to this trade, but really, to say that Gasol sucks is ignorant. He’s not having a great year, but that has to do more with Brown’s not using him correctly and Kobe’s trying to set an all-time record usage rate than any sort of decline in his game. Despite the “bad” year, he has a PER higher than anyone on the Cs except Pierce and has an astoundingly good assist rate for a 4 (only KG is better), a good rebounding rate, and a low turnover rate, and he still shoots the ball pretty efficiently. I’m not sure I’d trade for him because of his age, but Gasol does not suck.

In fact, try to imagine a lineup of Bradley, Ray, Pierce, Gasol, and Garnett, with Pierce playing point forward. I don’t cringe at that.

by Ersatz on Feb 7, 2012 10:11 PM EST reply actions  

You’re pretty much spot on. Pau’s subpar year has less to do with a decline in skill and more to do with Mike Brown’s offensive system which usually has Pau as the big “trailing” the interior big and usually ends up with him taking 18 foot jumpers and while he’s pretty good at those he’s much scarier on the block.

Another problem is the lack of secondary action when Pau actually gets the ball in the post. Pau’s a great passer and the reason that he thrived so much in the triangle offense is that he constantly had cutters and shooters moving around him and the threat of a pass is even more potent at times than an actual pass (this makes sense in my head now but I’m sure it won’t tomorrow).

Also, the complete lack of three point shooters makes it so, so much more difficult than it should be for them to get the ball to Pau and Bynum even when they have great post position.

by muckduck on Feb 8, 2012 1:23 AM EST up reply actions  

I don't believe this rumor because...

A. Ainge seems very reluctant to take on salary beyond this year and Rondo is a huge value with 3.5 years left on his contract.

B. The logic should be to get younger. The Big 3 are more likely to be traded before the deadline than Rondo (though Rondo could get traded in the offseason.)

We’ve got a young top 5 point guard on a cap friendly contract; this deal just seems bad to me. What’s worse is that it’s the Lakers. I’ll pass.

Only way I’m trading Rondo is as part of a package for maybe CP3, Deron, or Howard.

Big 3 go before Rondo.

by florida dodger on Feb 7, 2012 10:21 PM EST reply actions  

Gasol doesnt suck really.

Its just the everyday pressure that you might get traded any day now. And added on that the lakers have a new system going on is adding to his “slump”. And yes to sa Gasol sucks is IGNORANT on the decline or in a slump maybe but to say he sucks then you just dont know what your talking about.

by The green mamba on Feb 7, 2012 10:32 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

NO ... No way. Not with the Lakers

I don’t mind trading Rondo if do so can significantly improve our chance of getting banner 18, 19, 20, … but not trading to the Lakers.

The only trade with Lakers I will take is Bynum for MDaniel straight up, may be throw in a second rounder.

by getthat18now on Feb 7, 2012 10:40 PM EST reply actions  

I'm a pro trade Rondo guy

But not for a giant wacky inflatable flailing arm man. No way.

by AussieGreen on Feb 7, 2012 11:35 PM EST reply actions  

Trade Big 4

For Lakers Big 3 (Kobe, Gasol, Bynum) along with Matt Barnes and maybe Fisher!!

by SparzWizard on Feb 7, 2012 11:39 PM EST reply actions  

I've had some time to think it over

For several hours tonight, and I want to post again and say this trade is flat out asinine:

1. Exploding a team that’s on a roll chemistry wise with a compacted season would totally discombobulate what Doc Rivers has been building with little or no practice time. As early as last year in a NORMAL season this team could not recover from a similar loose cannon wild-eyed trade that destroyed chemistry.

2. Pau Gasol is not a solution for the present or future. He’s not a guy to build around looking down the road and is not as effective as Rondo in games RIGHT NOW and certainly not down the road. A trade of this non-improving nature in the middle of a compacted season would alienate the coach players and fans leaving them little chance to get it together by playoff time.

3. The only guy I would even CONSIDER adding in a lockout season would be Dwight Howard, no one else is good enough.

3. Trading away our groomed and acclimated guard would be foolish in nearly all circumstances this year. We’ve got something going here right now.

4. Don’t do mid season trades for thrills, don’t just pull the trigger on wild insane trades for the heck of it.

5. Last year we found ourselves in WINNABLE games vs the Heat, maybe we could use a little addition to tip the balance here and there but don’t go nuts, were still right there.

by p-peazy on Feb 8, 2012 2:14 AM EST reply actions  

I messed up the numbers

I meant to take it to 6, Bill Russell’s number.

by p-peazy on Feb 8, 2012 2:46 AM EST up reply actions  

I agree, you don't want Pau

The guy you really want is Derek Fisher.

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by Gil Meriken on Feb 8, 2012 2:43 AM EST reply actions  

Actually, this is the most interesting trade idea I've seen yet

…..Because it’s so anathema to BOTH SIDES. And for good reason imo — the deal would make BOTH sides worse. But it would DECIMATE the Cs…. so fuhgetaboutit…. there is no way in heaven, hell and all points in between this trade ever comes close to reality.

But it’s funny… gotta give it that.

by JR99 on Feb 8, 2012 3:36 AM EST reply actions  

Agreed. Seriously

I’m not surprised the Lakers would like to add a 25 year old premiere point guard. But why in the world would the Celtics want to trade their most valuable asset to acquire a formerly premiere PF who is past his prime? We’ve already got one of those named Kevin Garnett.

by BlackMass on Feb 8, 2012 10:11 PM EST up reply actions  

I just can't stop thinking

that Danny wants to get rid of Rondo off desperately. I would not be suprised if RR9 eventually asked for trade by himself. Danny’s attitude regarding Rondo is ridiculous if you ask me. You will see that Rondo will not start the next season as a Celtic.

by Sebal on Feb 8, 2012 5:29 AM EST reply actions  

Rumor or Fact....

First, Gasol is good, real good. Second, we all love our team right now but it wasn’t long ago there was a ton of railing against KG and how he was a shell of himself. If we are to go far this year we need a serious big, Danny sees this too, I’m sure. Third, who are we pairing with Rondo going forward if it won’t be Howard? Ainge may be looking at the next four years right now approx. Rondo’s window of contract and looking at possibles. If not Dwight then what big? Gasol might be his best option for the next four years. Then he would scramble to match a guard probably a couple of guards to go with him. Fourthly, Rondo is overrated. He is very good but he is not great like a lot of people make him out to be. This team got going this year when Pierce came back and finally got in shape. Pierce is the motor not Rondo. Not the worst rumor out there. This is probably what Donny Marshall was talking about earlier in the year.

by celty86 on Feb 8, 2012 7:11 AM EST reply actions  

I hate to admit it but.....

this idea is actually growing on me. I know that Rondo has his high points but imagine an inside out of KG AND Gasol. I know that we will be lacking in the pg department, but we in essence have the same advantage that LAL has had for a few years with 2 legit 7 fts.
(somone will probably type – how did that work for them in 2011???) But it did work in 2009 and 2010.

by heyvik on Feb 10, 2012 3:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Terrible trade

Gasol is WAY over-rated and has peaked. Rondo is still improving. Gasol, at this point, does not give us the toughness we need in the paint. He uses length and finess but no one fears Gasol.

The Rondo haters would love to see him go but I don’t think you want a team lacking a point guard going into the playoffs. Rondo makes everyone on the team better. Can you say that for Gasol?

by CelticsFan616 on Feb 8, 2012 8:30 AM EST reply actions  

NO

Rajon <> Pau = Stupidity
Celtics <> Lakers = Vomit
Mitch Kupchak <> Lakers = Selfish Spoiled Thieves

The rumor has to be a joke…I would be shocked if Danny would make a decision like that for the Celtics. ~=-o

by ChickieBoomBoom on Feb 8, 2012 8:52 AM EST reply actions  

Rondo For Gasol

Danny wouldn’t include Rondo in the deal for KG and that was when Rondo was in his 2nd year. I thought Rumors were only for off-season. Did the new CBA contract include a new rule that rumors were okay year round?

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by TrueGreen on Feb 8, 2012 9:04 AM EST reply actions  

Jajajajaja. Another trade? Again?

Can someone make a list of how many trades have been talk in the las 2 month?

by celt4ever on Feb 8, 2012 1:05 PM EST reply actions  

Why it could be true.........Possibles

1. Rondo is not getting along with Doc.
2. Rondo is not getting along with KG, PP and RA.
3. Rondo is very injury prone.
4. Rondo cannot shoot foul shots reliably.
5. The 2012 draft is very high on point guards and pf’s but weak on centers.
6. Rondo is not getting along with Danny.
7. Rondo is not getting along with the Owners.
8. Danny is convinced he has no shot at Howard.
9. Danny is convinced he can get a PG free agent of suitable quality.
10. Most of the experts on this Blog are against it and we are seldom right.

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by Dipper on Feb 8, 2012 2:12 PM EST reply actions  

Danny will not build a team around Rondo now or in the future

The point of this deal would be for another trade. Danny would be trying to convert the “Rondo asset” into another type of “asset” as he did with Perkins and Green.

Would he trade Gasol and someone else for DH? Bad example. Would he trade Gasol for another player to trade to the Magic?…yes. Don’t know if he wants DH that bad.

Rondo is NOT the central player in Ainge’s plans. It’s Ainge’s team and he wants to trade Rondo for something else (Chris Paul). Live with the rumors…he’s been shopping him for two years now.

by tstorey1 on Feb 8, 2012 2:39 PM EST reply actions  

It would only make sense as part of a larger transaction

i.e., something involving a third team or additional parts moving.

Nothing should be considered impossible to happen with Danny, but I would still rate the likelihood of this being true as pretty ridiculously small.

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by mmmmm on Feb 8, 2012 5:00 PM EST reply actions  

My goodness, No

Just an awful trade idea. I hope there’s no truth to it. Gasol is just past his peak as a player it seems like. Rondo has not yet reached his and is only 25. If we’re trading Rondo we better get a hell of a lot more than Pau Gasol.

by BlackMass on Feb 8, 2012 9:41 PM EST reply actions  

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